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fighting thrips with spinosad

hey guys i know there is alot of info about spinosad in its own thread but i didnt see anything about using it as a soil drench. The only reason i wonder is because i saw my soil move on its own today and i want those nuckers outta there and figured a spray application may not do it. Or do i just get the guys on the leaves with the first spraying and then get the next generation later? Also, all these plants are about 2 weeks into flower...how far in can i spray them? Please help if you can. Peace
 

mark6699331

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if the soil moved it might be fungus gnats. Try mosquito dunks crushed up in a water solution soaked over night.


for spinosad dunk the plant in a mixture of it. I'm always a firm believer in dunking rather than spraying- its WAY more effective.

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ok...so i should dip the whole plant rather than spray it? seems like a good idea...anyone else have any thoughts? However, i am sure they are thrips as i caught one of em and compared to thrip pictures...what about the soil? Thanks yall
 
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kokua

spinosad is a soil dwelling bacterium in nature...it will be right at home in your soil. Drench away :) Apply however is most convenient for you.
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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Thrips have two life cycle stages where they are in the soil.

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hey thanks for the info kokua.....as it seems you may be the resident expert here i have one more question...if i were to drench the plants, 1> do i ph the mixture as usual (to 6.6-6.6)? and 2> do i flush the stuff out after or will it not effect anything? what about washing it off/ rinsing after dipping? I guess thats a couple questions ...Thanks yall :bashhead:
 
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kokua

...im no expert, just a guy who loves to grow clean medicine. :)

I would ensure that the pH is within acceptable range on anything and everything that goes into the rootzone.

There is nothing about spinosad that is harmful or detrimental to your plants roots. It is a naturally occuring bacteria. Think about it...you soil should already be teaming with life. A healthy organic rootzone has millions upon millions of individual bacteria/fungi/other micro-goodies that are the true workhorses in your garden. Adding one more individual strain of beneficial bacteria to the mix is not going to do anything but kill the target pest. No need to flush anything. No need to do anything else...

Step 1. Measure the proper amount of spinosad that you want to apply.
Step 2. Apply however is most convenient for you.
Step 3. Relax and smoke a big phatty in memory of those little bastards...RIP thrips :)

No worries...your thrips problem is now a distant memory.
 
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Guest 18340

kokua is 100% right on! I sprayed my Hashberry 2 days ago and liberally wet the first 1 1/2 inches of the soil and their aint a thrip to be found and my plants are still standing tall.
FYI, my plants are 21 days into flower so im guessing its ok to spray with this stuff at least as far into flowering as i went :joint:



Alittle blurry :redface:
 
just wanted say that this stuff is the sh-t. Had those little buggers squirmin on the side of the container before i was even done spraying. Thanks for the tips Kokua .
Peace.
 

inflorescence

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I didn't think spinosad was a live (or even dormant) bacterium but rather the isolated active ingredient from them.
Not that it matters much, but I always wonder how much the manufacture considers the pH of an isolate compared to just spores or even just live bacteria.
 
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clowntown, i had to order mine off the 'net. Just google monterey garden insect spray. Its pretty cheap and 100% effective!!!
 

Linenoise

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Just wanna say I used this stuff and it obliterated the thrips after the second application. The stuff rocks!

I managed to find the stuff at Lowes. I looked at HomeDepot first, they did not have it. Then I went to Lowes and they had it. Lowes in general has alot more organic friendly products than HomeDepot and Lowes tends to be about 15-20% cheaper too.
 

clowntown

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Looked in two stores to find my bottle of Green Light Lawn & Garden Spray Spinosad. Didn't find it in the first... at the second, more expensive store, I paid $16 and change after tax.

Mixed 15mL per L of water, sprayed under and over foliage, medium, etc. Used a little less than 0.5L to cover a 3x3 table of 1-2 week vegged clones. In hindsight that doesn't seem like a lot, but when I was spraying it felt like forever. (I have a pressurized pump sprayer.)

Set my lights from 24/0 to 20/4 just so I can use this stuff. Thrips infestation was fairly minor to begin with, by the way.
 

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inflorescence said:
I didn't think spinosad was a live (or even dormant) bacterium but rather the isolated active ingredient from them.
Not that it matters much, but I always wonder how much the manufacture considers the pH of an isolate compared to just spores or even just live bacteria.

This is correct. Spinosad is a mixture of the two most active naturally occurring metabolites (spinosyns A and D) produced by S. spinosa

It has a pH of 7.74, is stable to metal and metal ions for 28 days, and has a shelf life of three years.

I had thrips once, sprayed all the plants down once with Monterey Garden Spray, no soil drenching, and no more thrips. That fricking easy!

Development of Spinosad
and Attributes of
A New Class of Insect Control Products

Gary D. Thompson, Scott H. Hutchins and Thomas C. Sparks
Dow AgroSciences LLC
9330 Zionsville Rd., Indianapolis, IN, 46268, USA

Apunte aquí para versión en Español [X]
INTRODUCTION

The discovery and characterization of the soil actinomycete Saccharopolyspora spinosa represented a novel opportunity to develop a portfolio of progressive insect management tools (Thompson et al.1997, Sparks et al. 1998). Indeed, the discovery and subsequent development of this unique organism (Figure 1) has provided the world with an entirely new class of products - with Tracer* Naturalyte* Insect Control being the first to be commercialized.

Figure 1. Scanning electron micrographs of Saccharopolyspora spinosa show the spiny surface of the actinomycete (left) and a transectional view of the vegetative stage (right).

The name is based on the utility of naturally produced metabolites that by definition possess rapid efficacy competitive with the best synthetic standards and safety profiles similar to benign biologicals. Spinosad is a mixture of the two most active naturally occurring metabolites (spinosyns A and D) produced by S. spinosa (Figure 2, Kirst et al., 1992).

Figure 2. Spinosad, the first active ingredient in the Naturalyte class of insect control products, is a mixture of spinosyn A and spinosyn D (ref. 1).

Structurally, these compounds are macrolides and contain a unique tetracyclic ring system to which two different sugars are attached. A unique mode of action coupled with a high degree of activity on targeted pests and low toxicity to non-target organisms (including many beneficial arthropods) make spinosad an excellent new tool for management of insect pests. Dow AgroSciences is aggressively pursuing additional spinosyns and other metabolites from natural organisms as future entries to the Naturalyte class. This paper provides an overview of the physical and biological properties of spinosad. When these properties are considered, in total, it is clear that Naturalyte does not conform to the previous characteristics of either chemical or biological insecticides.
Physical Properties and Environmental Fate

Spinosad is a secondary metabolite from the aerobic fermentation of S. spinosa on nutrient media. Following fermentation, spinosad is extracted and processed to form a highly concentrated conventional aqueous suspension for ease of use and distribution. Spinosad is a light gray to white crystalline solid with an earthy odor similar to slightly stale water. It has a pH of 7.74, is stable to metal and metal ions for 28 days, and has a shelf life of three years as formulated material. It is considered nonvolatile with vapor pressures around 10-10 mm Hg. Table 1 summarizes other physical and chemical properties of spinosyns A and D (Anonymous, 1996).

Table 1. Physical and chemical properties of spinosyns A and D.
Spinosyn A Spinosyn D
Molecular Weight 731.98 746.00
Empirical Formula C42H67NO16 C41H65NO16
Melting Point 84 - 99.5°C 161.5 - 170°C
Vapor Pressure 2.4 x 10-10 1.6 x 10-10
Solubility in Water at pH 5.0 290 ppm 29 ppm
Solubility in Water at pH 7.0 235 ppm 0.332 ppm
Solubility in Water at pH 9.0 16 ppm 0.053 ppm
Octanol/Water

Partition Coefficient at pH 5.0


log P = 2.8


log P = 3.2
Octanol/Water

Partition Coefficient at pH 7.0


log P = 4.0


log P = 4.5
Octanol/Water

Partition Coefficient at pH 9.0


log P = 5.2


log P = 5.2

The degradation of spinosad in the environment occurs through a combination of routes, primarily photodegradation and microbial degradation to its natural components of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. The half-life of spinosad degraded by soil photolysis is 9-10 days. It is less than 1 day for aqueous photolysis and leaf surface photolysis results in a half-life of 1.6 to 16 days. The half-life of spinosad degraded by aerobic soil metabolism in the absence of light is 9-17 days. Hydrolysis does not contribute significantly to degradation as spinosad is relatively stable in water at a pH of 5-7 and has a half-life of at least 200 days at a pH of 9. The leaching potential of spinosad is very low due to a moderate Kd (5-323), low to moderate water solubility and short residual in the environment. Thus, it does not pose a threat to groundwater when used properly and no buffer zones are required by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (Saunders and Bret, 1997).

Nontarget Toxicology

Table 2 summarizes acute mammalian, aquatic and avian toxicology (Anonymous, 1996). Spinosad is relatively low in toxicity to mammals and birds and is only slightly toxic to fish.

Table 2. Acute mammalian, aquatic and avian toxicity of spinosad.
Species Test Result EPA Category
Mammalian
Rat (male/female) Acute oral LD50 3738/>5000 mg/kg Caution (IV)
Mouse Acute oral LD50 >5000 mg/kg Caution (IV)
Rabbit Acute dermal LD50 >5000 mg/kg Caution (IV)
Rat Acute inhalation LC50 >5 mg/kg Caution (IV)
Rabbit Eye irritation slight, clearing in 2 days Caution (IV)
Rabbit Skin irritation no irritation Caution (IV)
Guinea pig Dermal sensitization no sensitization N. A.
Aquatic
Daphnia 48 hr acute LC50 92.7 mg/L Slightly toxic
Grass shrimp 96 hr acute LC50 >9.8 mg/L Slightly toxic
Carp 96 hr acute LC50 5.0 mg/L Moderately toxic
Bluegill 96 hr acute LC50 5.9 mg/L Moderately toxic
Sheepshead minnow 96 hr acute LC50 7.9 mg/L Moderately toxic
Rainbow trout 96 hr acute LC50 30.0 mg/L Slightly toxic
Avian
Bobwhite quail Acute oral LD50 >2,000 mg/kg Practically non-toxic
Mallard duck Acute oral LD50 >2,000 mg/kg Practically non-toxic
Bobwhite quail 5 day dietary LC50 >5,000 mg/kg Practically non-toxic
Mallard duck 5 day dietary LC50 >5,000 mg/kg Practically non-toxic

In addition, chronic toxicology tests in mammals have shown that spinosad is not carcinogenic, teratogenic, mutagenic or neurotoxic. Spinosad exhibits wide margins of safety to many beneficial insects and related organisms (Schoonover and Larson, 1995). Spinosad has relatively low activity against predaceous beetles, sucking insects, lacewings and mites. Table 3 demonstrates the reduced activity of spinosad on some.
Table 3. Toxicity of spinosad and cypermethrin to selected beneficial organisms.
Beneficial species Spinosad LC50 Cypermethrin LC50
Honeybee, Apis mellifera 11.5 ppm 1.2 ppm
Whitefly parasitoid, Encarsia formosa 29.1 ppm 1.9 ppm
Minute pirate bug, Orius insidiosus 200 ppm 0.2 ppm
Lady beetle, Hippodamia convergens >200 ppm 0.2 ppm
Lacewing, Chrysopa rufilabris >200 ppm <0.2 ppm
Predaceous mite, Phytoseiulus persimilis >200 ppm <0.2 ppm

Against lepidoptera targets the activity values for spinosad and cypermethrin generally overlap. It is extremely exciting to have this level of activity coupled with large margins of selectivity, for predacious insects, which are an important component of IPM programs. The topical acute activity of spinosad against honeybees is less than 1 µg per bee which places spinosad in the highly toxic to bees category of the EPA. However, once residues have dried completely, toxicity of foraging bees is considered negligible (Mayer and Lunden, 1998). There are minimal safety precautions and preharvest and reentry intervals for this reduced risk product.
Physiological Properties and Resistance Management

Spinosad demonstrates rapid contact and ingestion activity in insects which is unusual for a biological product. The mode of action of spinosad is characterized by excitation of the insect nervous system, leading to involuntary muscle contractions, prostration with tremors, and paralysis. These effects are consistent with the activation of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors by a mechanism that is clearly novel and unique among known insect control products. Spinosad also has effects on GABA receptor function that may contribute further to its insect activity. This mode of action is unique. Imidacloprid and other nicotinic receptor-based insecticides act at a different site than spinosad. Avermectin, although a natural product and a macrocyclic lactone, also acts at a different site than spinosad. No other class of products affects the insect nervous system with the same mode of action and no cross resistance to spinosad has been demonstrated (Salgado et al., 1997; Salgado, 1998; Salgado et al. 1998).

The unique mode of action, lack of cross resistance, selectivity that leaves predacious insects, and moderate residual profile result in a low probability of resistance development. This is particularly true if Naturalyte insect control products are brought into rotations with current and other new insect control products. However, the adaptability of insects has been proven over and over. Therefore, Dow AgroSciences is promoting resistance management of spinosad through labeling, education and marketing efforts in support of good stewardship and IPM practices but not because of any underlying concerns that would affect spinosad more than any other active ingredient.

In the field, spinosad activity is characterized by cessation of feeding and paralysis of exposed insects within minutes. However, these insects may remain on the plant for up to two days. For this reason, growers and scouts should wait a minimum of two to three days to evaluate control.

Foliar applications of spinosad are not highly systemic in plants although some translaminar movement in leaf tissue has been demonstrated. The addition of a penetrating surfactant increases translaminar movement and activity on pests that mine leaves (Larson, 1997). No phytotoxicity has been demonstrated with this product.
Spectrum of Activity and Labeling Efforts

Spinosad has been tested extensively on a global basis since 1990 (Carson and Trumble, 1997; Fouche et al., 1998; Kerns, 1996; Linduska et al., 1998; McLeod, 1998; Palumbo, 1997; Riley, 1998; Schuster, 1997, Stansly and Connor, 1998; Walgenbach and Palmer, 1997; Webb, 1998). Table 4 lists several of the insect pests against which spinosad is being labeled.

Table 4. Examples of Insect pests controlled by spinosad on current or future labels.
Common name Scientific name gm/ha
European corn borer Ostrinia nubilalis 25 -50
Tomato fruitworm Helicoverpa zea 40 - 100
Cabbage Looper Trichoplusia ni 50 - 100
Diamondback moth Plutella xylostella 15 -50
Southern armyworm Spodoptera eridania 50 - 100
Leafminers Liriomyza spp. 70 - 150
Melon thrips Thrips palmi 70 - 100
Fall armyworm Spodoptera frugiperda 25 - 100
Beet armyworm Spodoptera exigua 50 - 100
Colorado potato beetle Leptinotarsa decemlineata 25 - 80
Imported cabbageworm Pieris rapae 50 - 100
Tomato pinworm Keiferia lycopersicella 50 - 100
Grape Berry Moth Lobesia lobina 25 - 50
Cotton Leafworm Alabama argillacea 25-50
American bollworm Heliothis armigera 50 -100
Tomato hornworm Manduca quinquemaculata 40 - 100
Western flower thrips Frankliniella occidentalis 70 - 100

In general, spinosad provides effective control of pests in the insect orders Lepidoptera, Diptera, and Thysanoptera. It is also effective for some species Coleoptera and Orthoptera that consume large amounts of foliage. Spinosad is generally not effective for control of most sucking insects, and mites but some use patterns are being investigated.
Product Labeling

Spinosad is currently labeled in the U.S. on the brassica vegetable group (broccoli, Chinese broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, Chinese cabbage - bok choy and napa, cauliflower, cavalo, collards, kale, kohlrabi, mizuna, mustard greens, mustard spinach, Chinese mustard cabbage - gai choy, and rape greens), fruiting vegetable group (eggplant, ground cherry, pepino, pepper, tomatillo, and tomato), leafy vegetable group (including head and leaf lettuce, celery, arugula, chervil, edible chrysanthemum, corn salad, cress, dandelion, dock, endive, fennel, parsley, garden purslane, radicchio, rhubarb, spinach, and Swiss chard), apples, almonds and citrus. Crops for which additional U. S. labeling is being pursued include cucurbits, legumes, sweet corn, potatoes, and strawberries. Table 5 lists the global registration status at the time this paper was

Table 5. Current and Pending Naturalyte* Insect Control Registrations
County Trademarks Crops First Registration**

Argentina Tracer*, Success* Cotton, Tomato 1998

Australia Tracer Cotton 1998
Laser Brassica 1999
Success Vegetables 2000

Benelux - Pome fruit, Vegs. 2002

Bolivia Tracer Cotton/Soybeans 1998

Brazil Tracer, Credence* Tomato, Corn 1998
Soybean, Cotton, 1999

Canada Success Apples, Potatoes 1999
Stone Fruit 2000

Chile Success Nectarines, Tomato 1998

China Success

Tracer
Vegetable

Cotton
1998

1998

Columbia Tracer 120SC Flowers, Cotton, Begs. 1998

Cyprus Tracer 48 SC Vegetables, Potatoes 1998

Ecuador Tracer Corn, Vegetables 1998

France - Vines 2001
Ornamentals 2001

Germany - Flybait, Ornamentals 2000

Greece - Vines, Pome fruit, Vegs. 2001

Guatemala Tracer Cotton

Cucurbits, Brassica
1998

2000

Honduras Tracer Cotton 1998

Indonesia Success Vegetable 1998

Israel _ Vines, Vegetables 1998

Italy _ Ornamentals, Vegs. 2001
Grapes, Pome fruit 2001

Japan Spinoace*, Naturalyte

Caribstar*
Turf

Brassica

Peach, Pear
1999

1999

2001

Korea Boomerang Cucumber 1997
Cabbage, Rose 1998

Lebanon - Vegetable, Potatoes 1998

Malaysia Success 25SC Vegetables 1998

Mexico Tracer, Success Cotton 1997
Fruiting Vegetables 1998
Brassica & Leafy Veg. 1998

New Zealand Success Vegetables 1998

Philippines Success 25 SC Vegetable 1998

Spain - Vines 2001
Pepper, Tomatoes 2001

Taiwan Success Vegetable 1999

Thailand Success Vegetable 1998

Tunisia Vegetables, Citrus 1998

Turkey - Grapes 1998

U.S. Tracer, Conserve*

SpinTor*, Success
Cotton

Turf & Ornamentals
1997

1997
Brassica Crops 1998
Apple, Tomato 1998
Tobacco 1998
Leafy Vegetables 1998
Citrus, Almonds 1998
Cucurbits, Legumes 1998
Stone Fruit, Potatoes 1999
Cereal Grains 1999
Minor Crops 1999+

UAE _ Vegetable 1998

Uruguay Success Citrus 1998

Venezuela Tracer Corn 1998

*Trademark of Dow AgroSciences LLC

** Registration Dates are estimates

The favorable mammalian and environmental profile, insect selectivity and IPM fit, unique mode of action and resistance management properties, and outstanding efficacy are resulting in rapid registrations and adoption by growers around the world documenting the value to agriculture.

LITERATURE CITED

Anonymous. 1996. Spinosad technical guide. DowElanco (now Dow AgroSciences LLC), 25 pp.

Carson, W. G. and J. T. Trumble. 1997. Effect of insecticides on celery insects, 1995. Arthropod Management Tests: 1997, vol. 22:117.

Fouche, C., M. Canevari and D. Cutter. 1998. Evaluation of insecticides for control of leafminers on lima beans, 1997. Arthropod Management Tests. 23:74-75.

Kerns, D. L. 1996. Control of lepidopterous larvae and leafminers in lettuce, 1995. Arthropod Management Tests. 21:117-118.

Kirst, H. A., K. H. Michel, J. S. Mynderse, E. H. Chao, R. C. Yao, W. M. Nakatsukasa, L. D. Boeck, J.

Occlowitz, J. W. Paschel, J. B. Deeter and G. D. Thompson. 1992. Discovery, isolation and structure elucidation of a family of structurally unique fermentation-derived tetracyclic

macrolides. In: D. R. Baker, J. G. Fenyes and J. J. Steffens, Eds., Synthesis and chemistry of agrochemicals III. Am. Chem. Soc., Washington, D. C., pp. 214-225.

Larson, L. L. 1997. Effects of adjuvants on the activity of Tracer™ 480SC on cotton in the laboratory, 1996. Arthropod Management Tests. 22:415-416.

Linduska, J. J., M. Ross, D. Baumann and A. Parr. 1998. Foliar sprays to control ear-invading insects on sweet corn, 1997. Arthropod Management Tests: 23:95-96.

Mayer, D. F. and J.D. Lunden. 1998. Research Reports: 72nd Annual Western Orchard Pest & Disease

Management Conference. Oregon Extension Service. pp73-74.

McLeod, P. 1998. Evaluation of insecticides for control of corn earworm on snap bean, 1997. Arthropod Management Tests. 23:75.

Palumbo, J. C. 1997. Evaluation of selective insecticides for control of lepidopterous larvae in lettuce. Arthropod Management Tests. 22:136.

Riley, D. G. 1998. Evaluation of insecticide treatments on cabbage, 1997. Arthropod Management Tests. 23:82.

Salgado, V. L. 1997. The mode of action of spinosad and other insect control products. Down to Earth. 52(1), 35-44.

Salgado, V.L. 1998. Studies on the mode of action of spinosad: Insect symptoms and physiology correlates. Pesticide Biochemistry and Physiology. 60(2):91-102.

Salgado, V. L. , J.J. Sheets, G. B. Watson, A. L. Schmidt. 1998. Studies on the mode of action of spinosad: The internal effective concentration and the concentration dependence of neural excitation. Pesticide Biochemistry and Physiology. 60(2):103-110.

Schoonover, J. R. and L. L. Larson. 1995. Laboratory activity of spinosad on non-target beneficial arthropods, 1994. Arthropod Management Tests. 20:357.

Schuster, D. J. 1997. Management of insects on fresh market tomatoes, spring, 1996A. Arthropod Management Tests. 22:182.

Sparks, T. C.; G. D Thompson,. H. A. Kirst,. M. B. Hertlein, J. S. Mynderse, J. R Turner,.T. V. Worden, (1998). Fermentation-Derived Insect Control Agents The Spinosyns. In: Methods in

Biotechnology, Biopesticides: Use and Delivery. (eds. F. R. Hall and J. J. Menn). 5: 171-188. Humana Press. Totowa, NJ.

Stansly, P. A. and J. M. Connor. 1998. Impact of insecticides alone and in rotation on tomato pinworm, leafminer and beneficial arthropods in staked tomato, 1997. Arthropod Management Tests: 23:162-165.

Walgenbach, J. F. and C. R. Palmer. 1997. Control of lepidopterous insects on cabbage, 1996. Arthropod Management Tests. 22:113.

Webb, S. E. 1998. Control of pickleworm on squash with selective insecticides, 1997. Arthropod Management Tests. 23:142-143.

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sneaky_g

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How many days between foliar applications of spinosad would you say?? And also could i water the plants with 1 tbsp / quart application mixed soil drench as well? fucking THRIP pupae on the underside of a few leaves
 

medicalmj

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How many days between foliar applications of spinosad would you say?? And also could i water the plants with 1 tbsp / quart application mixed soil drench as well? fucking THRIP pupae on the underside of a few leaves

Here are some drenches

Azadirachtin (Azamax) - tested, proven and approved for drenches by academia. Big commercial ops are using for OMRI crops.

SNS makes a couple drenches. Not as tested or proven as azamax.

Neonicitinoids (Imidiclorpid) If you don't mind chems, drench w IMID it'll take care of them.

Edit: Drenches are listed for Conserve (commercial greenhouse brand of Spinosad)
As you prolly know, azadirachtin is the active ingredient in neem. But don't use staright up neem for drnches. Neem needs to mixed w a surfactant whereas azamax is proccessed and ready. So I use neem for foliar sprays w a surfactant and save the more expensive and properly proccessed azamax for drenches.
 
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i have thrips and have some questions. currently in day 23 of flower, can i still spray the meonterey, and does it burn pistils? what is the recommended dilution rate with the monterey? what is the dilution rate for soil drench? is one application enough? are there any oils in monterey(i just burned sulfur-dont wanna kill my plants)?
 

medicalmj

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i have thrips and have some questions. currently in day 23 of flower, can i still spray the meonterey, and does it burn pistils? what is the recommended dilution rate with the monterey? what is the dilution rate for soil drench? is one application enough? are there any oils in monterey(i just burned sulfur-dont wanna kill my plants)?

Checked my Conserve Label and product info (11% instead of the .5% avail at the store) and they do have it listed as drench. Rates are given in overall amounts per acre. They recommend a similar rate as foliar per gallon. So if are using one like Monterey the rate per gallon is 2 oz. If it were me I'd test just one to be sure no phytotoxicity.
 

Granger2

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OMRI says that Spinosad is safe on edible crops sprayed on [not up to] the day of Harvest. I still wouldn't go close to harvest. With thrips you can interrupt their life cycle with a thorough drench.

If it were me, I'd spray foliage, immerse root balls. I would also spray walls, floor, all sides and bottoms of containers. I would follow that a few days later with a heavy spraying with pH'd water with a surfactant. I would not flush containers.

I could be wrong but seems to me that, if you are very thorough, there shouldn't be a return infestation that would cause significant damage by harvest. Good luck. -granger
 
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