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mahuta · 10-27-2009, 07:33 AM

just had a mate get his house searched (they had a warrant) for a matter unrelated to weed. the cops found 5 seedlings on a windowsill - destroyed them and were let off with a warning - but he thinks they took his son's (they were his plants) computer hard drive and/or memory sticks - he dosen't know anything about computers (old/old stoner). is this allowed or what? he wasn't charged with drugs and the warrant was for his son damaging a phone box. are the cops allowed to take a computer drive if cannabis is found? and what if nothing is found. i'm thinking about my own hard drive and cruising the cannabis web. cheers mahuta

madcease · 10-27-2009, 10:58 AM

Yes in Australia they will take it and get everything the bloke has every looked at even though he erased it.

PuReKnOwLeDgE · 10-27-2009, 11:13 AM

I have tuneupshredder, a nice program for deleting incriminating information. It will do what is known as a class 5 wipe.

Deletion method: "Secure delete in accordance with DOD 5220"
I will actually do that 5 repetitions. You should always delete anything incriminating in this manner. Wouldn't have saved your friend here from anything on his computer, but maybe stuff he thought he deleted in the past. Keep all incriminating items hidden away and together, so if you have a chance you can shred them.

mahuta · 10-27-2009, 11:20 AM

so how can you delete pages you've surfed - say all the pages i've read on IC? and make it unfindable by the filth if computer is taken? - if i add a photo here and get raided, they find it - i'm nailed!!!!

PuReKnOwLeDgE · 10-27-2009, 11:21 AM

shred your tempoary internet files and history?

JWP · 10-27-2009, 12:00 PM

only one way... dban... then a sledge hammer

sativa4ever · 10-30-2009, 03:25 PM

what if yu install windows again from scratch on computer, wouldnt that delete everything???

**BENJI** · 10-30-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sativa4ever

what if yu install windows again from scratch on computer, wouldnt that delete everything???

You could install windows 50 times over and there still would be some traces of what you've done on your hard drive you can either get a good shredding or deleating program otherwise just put a nice strong magnet next to your hard drive that'll do the trick but you will never be able to use that same hard drive again...Or you could use JWP's method with the sledgehammer...lol

boroboro · 10-30-2009, 09:04 PM

OK, not as good a solution as the sledgehammer and sealed concrete underground vault, but here's what I do:

1. Use a browser with documented features and limited OS integration, such as Firefox or Opera.
2. Configure the browser to store all cache files, bookmarks, history, etc. on a virtual drive created by an encryption program such as Truecrypt (http://truecrypt.org).
3. Unmount encrypted virtual drives when PC not in use.

Not perfect, but better than a sledgehammer...

Dank-j · 10-30-2009, 09:18 PM

Data on DISK DRIVES are basically stored as an UP or DOWN "ticks" indicating either a 1 or a 0. When you delete something the 1 or 0 isn't erased, the disk index is modified saying that the drive can utilize that space again for something different.

The problem with this is even if you say you deleted a file, the file was never deleted, just the index. If you really want your drive CLEAN and unreadable, smash it into a billion pieces or run software that ZERO's the drive. (this forces the up and down "tick" to be all set the same thus actually overriding the content on the drive.

http://www.fileshredder.org/ <--- scrambles a hard drive with random data to make info retrieval impossible.

+K to boroboro for truecrypt, if you have information thats incriminating enough that nobody should ever find it, truecrypt is the answer. Don't assume you'll have time to clean your drive.

Herbasaurus · 10-30-2009, 11:53 PM

Sure delte is also a free program that overwrites deleted files.

Set up firefox to delete history after use.

also visiting cannabis sites is not illegal, at least not yet, but keep an eye on laws like one proposed in australia to censor sites they deem "harmful to children"

also, I think you can encrypt your whole hard drive so that it can't be read using pgp or something similar - would like to find out more about this if anyone has info

forester · 11-08-2009, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dank-j

Data on DISK DRIVES are basically stored as an UP or DOWN "ticks" indicating either a 1 or a 0. When you delete something the 1 or 0 isn't erased, the disk index is modified saying that the drive can utilize that space again for something different.

The problem with this is even if you say you deleted a file, the file was never deleted, just the index. If you really want your drive CLEAN and unreadable, smash it into a billion pieces or run software that ZERO's the drive. (this forces the up and down "tick" to be all set the same thus actually overriding the content on the drive.

http://www.fileshredder.org/ <--- scrambles a hard drive with random data to make info retrieval impossible.

+K to boroboro for truecrypt, if you have information thats incriminating enough that nobody should ever find it, truecrypt is the answer. Don't assume you'll have time to clean your drive.

Say if I used this program, am I able to continue using the computer afterwards? Or is it something that you do to a computer you are going to get rid of anyway?

God knows Ive surfed some porn on the work laptop, this stuff may come in handy.

Wev · 11-08-2009, 07:33 AM

Surfing on pot forums aint no crime. They are only searching for Illegal sick shit.If you got it you are gone and Grease up charlie you are in for one long painful ride.

mahuta · 11-08-2009, 07:39 AM

thats correct wev - but what if you add photos of your cannabis grows? - i have a feeling you can be had for that. - mahuta

Wev · 11-08-2009, 11:11 AM

Your Grows or one found online? its only the current grow that you will be busted raped and tortured over. The past is the past unless you labelled 1972 grow through to current you should not waste any sleep over this. The computer is your Mind. Of course they want to get inside and take a look around in your world.

10-27-2009, 07:33 AM	#1
mahuta Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: new zealand Posts: 62	computers and getting raided in nz just had a mate get his house searched (they had a warrant) for a matter unrelated to weed. the cops found 5 seedlings on a windowsill - destroyed them and were let off with a warning - but he thinks they took his son's (they were his plants) computer hard drive and/or memory sticks - he dosen't know anything about computers (old/old stoner). is this allowed or what? he wasn't charged with drugs and the warrant was for his son damaging a phone box. are the cops allowed to take a computer drive if cannabis is found? and what if nothing is found. i'm thinking about my own hard drive and cruising the cannabis web. cheers mahuta
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10-27-2009, 11:13 AM	#3
PuReKnOwLeDgE Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 759	I have tuneupshredder, a nice program for deleting incriminating information. It will do what is known as a class 5 wipe. Deletion method: "Secure delete in accordance with DOD 5220" I will actually do that 5 repetitions. You should always delete anything incriminating in this manner. Wouldn't have saved your friend here from anything on his computer, but maybe stuff he thought he deleted in the past. Keep all incriminating items hidden away and together, so if you have a chance you can shred them. __________________ Compliant Medical Marijuana Caregiver 24 Bucket RDWC 4000 watt by PK
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PuReKnOwLeDgE Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 759	shred your tempoary internet files and history? __________________ Compliant Medical Marijuana Caregiver 24 Bucket RDWC 4000 watt by PK
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10-27-2009, 10:58 AM	#2
madcease New Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 22	Yes in Australia they will take it and get everything the bloke has every looked at even though he erased it.
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10-27-2009, 11:20 AM	#4
mahuta Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: new zealand Posts: 62	so how can you delete pages you've surfed - say all the pages i've read on IC? and make it unfindable by the filth if computer is taken? - if i add a photo here and get raided, they find it - i'm nailed!!!!
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10-30-2009, 03:25 PM	#7
sativa4ever Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 67	what if yu install windows again from scratch on computer, wouldnt that delete everything???
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10-30-2009, 09:04 PM	#9
boroboro On the Road less Traveled Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: One foot out of the closet Posts: 403	OK, not as good a solution as the sledgehammer and sealed concrete underground vault, but here's what I do: 1. Use a browser with documented features and limited OS integration, such as Firefox or Opera. 2. Configure the browser to store all cache files, bookmarks, history, etc. on a virtual drive created by an encryption program such as Truecrypt (http://truecrypt.org). 3. Unmount encrypted virtual drives when PC not in use. Not perfect, but better than a sledgehammer...
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10-30-2009, 09:18 PM	#10
Dank-j Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: BigSky Posts: 284	Data on DISK DRIVES are basically stored as an UP or DOWN "ticks" indicating either a 1 or a 0. When you delete something the 1 or 0 isn't erased, the disk index is modified saying that the drive can utilize that space again for something different. The problem with this is even if you say you deleted a file, the file was never deleted, just the index. If you really want your drive CLEAN and unreadable, smash it into a billion pieces or run software that ZERO's the drive. (this forces the up and down "tick" to be all set the same thus actually overriding the content on the drive. http://www.fileshredder.org/ <--- scrambles a hard drive with random data to make info retrieval impossible. +K to boroboro for truecrypt, if you have information thats incriminating enough that nobody should ever find it, truecrypt is the answer. Don't assume you'll have time to clean your drive.
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10-30-2009, 11:53 PM	#11
Herbasaurus Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 117	Sure delte is also a free program that overwrites deleted files. Set up firefox to delete history after use. also visiting cannabis sites is not illegal, at least not yet, but keep an eye on laws like one proposed in australia to censor sites they deem "harmful to children" also, I think you can encrypt your whole hard drive so that it can't be read using pgp or something similar - would like to find out more about this if anyone has info
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11-08-2009, 07:33 AM	#13
Wev Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 285	Surfing on pot forums aint no crime. They are only searching for Illegal sick shit.If you got it you are gone and Grease up charlie you are in for one long painful ride.
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11-08-2009, 07:39 AM	#14
mahuta Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: new zealand Posts: 62	thats correct wev - but what if you add photos of your cannabis grows? - i have a feeling you can be had for that. - mahuta
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11-08-2009, 11:11 AM	#15
Wev Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 285	Your Grows or one found online? its only the current grow that you will be busted raped and tortured over. The past is the past unless you labelled 1972 grow through to current you should not waste any sleep over this. The computer is your Mind. Of course they want to get inside and take a look around in your world.
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