Florida Growers Thread

[Tropical]

Grow Upate:

Here is an update on my little girl in a five quart container. I'll upcan her to five gallons in about a week or two and then put her outside a week or two after that.

This first photo was taken using the MH lamp as the light source.
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This second photo is the same plant but I used the camera's flash as the light source.
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[Farmer Joe]

Here are pics for my ~10 day updates. Took some with and without flash. All-in-all, its been flowering for around 30 days and coming a long nicely. The only care I've done for it is add a few more organic ferts to the soil and water with a very weak mixture of Tiger Bloom. Might try and increase the dosage of Tiger Bloom soon. ~35 more days to go! :lurk:

Full sized pics, go here:
http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/99812-2nd-outdoor-grow.html


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[evlme2]

Cannapits, i remmeber the shop on 434 but dont for the life of me remember what happened to it. Theyre all pricey but man are the convenient to have around!! Just went there today to stock up on a few essentials :).

[Tropical]

Very nice, Farmer Joe. Thanks for the update. I have a girl that I put out in my friend's backyard to flower. I'll ask him to snap a photo so I can post it here too.

[Cannapits]

Cannapits, i remmeber the shop on 434 but dont for the life of me remember what happened to it. Theyre all pricey but man are the convenient to have around!! Just went there today to stock up on a few essentials :).

I hear ya...was there 6 months ago....stoped by when I was passing through town...used to live 3 blocks away from store when I didnt grow...go figure

Edited:Found out the Hydro convention is in Orlando Nov 10-11.....the 11th is open to public with a 5 dollar donation...the 10th is for industry only....see ya there...

[Burnatree]

i was wondering living in south florida are there any plants that you can add to your garden to hide your herb plants while growing outdoors

[Tropical]

i was wondering living in south florida are there any plants that you can add to your garden to hide your herb plants while growing outdoors

Sure, any plants you add to your garden will help hide the Cannabis, especially in veg. You have to walk up very close to the plant to determine what it is. If you have enough plants around it, nobody will walk up to each one and inspect them all.

Once in bloom though, it will stink depending on how much you have and how stinky your strain is. Northern Lights is a good low odor indica. Cali-O and Haze are good low odor sativas. I'm going by reputation. I haven't grown them myself. Well, I did grow a Haze dominant pheno of Mothers Finest. It was in a closet with a few other strains, odor neutralizers, lots of ventilation, and I don't really remember the odor level anyway.

[Cannapits]

okra is a great cover...

[its kurmit]

honey-suckles r good look wise, im lookin for plants to cover the smell

[Cannapits]

awwwww the smell of cow shit...

[tbone420]

try jasmine. confederate jasmine grows fast as shit and the blooms are pungent

[tbone420]

oh representing the 352

[Tropical]

Here is a thought I've had, especially now that a few hurricanes have cleared out the tree canopy in my backyard, giving me some sunlight, but at the same time also took away my privacy. I might grow a strain called Ducksfoot. You can find photos if you do a search. It doesn't look at all like Cannabis in veg. The leaves are shaped like the foot of a duck instead of the seven skinny fingers. You can grow it in the open and not worry about it.

Now, the problem comes in bloom. It will grow big colas and stink like mj. So, my thought is to just cut them down when they start to bloom. It wont be smokeable, but it will be fine for Cannabutter. I've made Cannabutter many times from leaves taken during veg. I can make the Cannabutter as potent as I want by using a high leaf to butter ratio. I've made Cannabutter so strong that 2 grams leaves me flat on my ass.

If I can let the plants flower for even a few weeks, then I might run the harvest through bubble bags to get something smokeable. I hear that the hash from fan leaves wont be full melt, but it will be at least as good as smoking a bud.

Anyway, that's something for people to consider if you have lots of sunshine without enough privacy, especially if you like to get stoned on cookies and brownies. In my case, I almost never smoke. I get stoned every day on cookies. It's great. If you haven't tried it, then you should.

[Cannapits]

sounds like a plan tropical.....
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peace

[Burnatree]

Sure, any plants you add to your garden will help hide the Cannabis, especially in veg. You have to walk up very close to the plant to determine what it is. If you have enough plants around it, nobody will walk up to each one and inspect them all.

Once in bloom though, it will stink depending on how much you have and how stinky your strain is. Northern Lights is a good low odor indica. Cali-O and Haze are good low odor sativas. I'm going by reputation. I haven't grown them myself. Well, I did grow a Haze dominant pheno of Mothers Finest. It was in a closet with a few other strains, odor neutralizers, lots of ventilation, and I don't really remember the odor level anyway.


Thanks alot for all the great replies, i think i might go with the northern lights, seems like its a good one to run with espically for a newbie like myself

[Burnatree]

okra is a great cover...
just looked at some okra plants they look great and they have nice heavy cover

[Tropical]

Thanks alot for all the great replies, i think i might go with the northern lights, seems like its a good one to run with espically for a newbie like myself

Keep in mind that indicas, like Northern Lights, are best suited to our dry season. Sativas do better during our summer and fall.

[Cannapits]

just looked at some okra plants they look great and they have nice heavy cover

Many a fields of Okra in S. Dade county with a MJ plant or 2 in the middle...have a yellow flower on them when they bloom....Joann fabrics has fake yellow flowers to attach so they blend in for a small personal garden...Best of luck...

Killer Queen
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[arewhy]

sounds like a plan tropical.....
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peace

if only i could find bud like that, droooool

[Tropical]

[QUOTE=Cannapits]Many a fields of Okra in S. Dade county with a MJ plant or 2 in the middle...have a yellow flower on them when they bloom....Joann fabrics has fake yellow flowers to attach so they blend in for a small personal garden...Best of luck...

Usually, fake flowers are made of silk. Does Joanne Fabrics sell ones made of plastic? Silk doesn't hold up well outdoors, obviously.

[Burnatree]

Keep in mind that indicas, like Northern Lights, are best suited to our dry season. Sativas do better during our summer and fall.
so what would i start now, i think im going to run with bag seed since it will be my first grow, but planning on buying some name brand stuff soon..since the bag seed i have seems to not want to sprout

[Cannapits]

[QUOTE=Cannapits]Many a fields of Okra in S. Dade county with a MJ plant or 2 in the middle...have a yellow flower on them when they bloom....Joann fabrics has fake yellow flowers to attach so they blend in for a small personal garden...Best of luck...

Usually, fake flowers are made of silk. Does Joanne Fabrics sell ones made of plastic? Silk doesn't hold up well outdoors, obviously.

havent had to use that method since I left ...Lots of space on my new location now...lot less heat so to speak....I agree plastic ones would last longer but silk will last through a season and are inexpensive...peace

[Tropical]

...silk will last through a season...

OK, that's certainly good enough.

[Tropical]

so what would i start now, i think im going to run with bag seed since it will be my first grow, but planning on buying some name brand stuff soon..since the bag seed i have seems to not want to sprout

Anything you put outside after the first of May should be sativa. The rain and humidity in late June will likely turn your indicas moldy.

The land race sativas from Mexico, Columbia, Jamaica, etc. have great genetics for outdoor cultivation in warm climates. They can produce great buds when grown in warm climates. The problem is they are usually bagged while still damp and get old, stale, and moldy by the time consumers in the U.S.A. get them. That's why the smoke sucks and the seeds are hard to sprout. I pulled a bunch of seeds out of my friends' pot when we went on vacation in Jamaica and grew some killer pot from it here at home. I had at least 70% germination and I had plenty of seeds. If a cruise to Jamaica is out of the question for you, then you can either try LOTS of bag seed hoping a few crack, or you can buy a cheap sativa on-line.

By the way, do you happen to know anybody who lives in a warm third-world country who could send you some seeds? That would be cheap.

The problem is that most of the cheap seeds sold on-line are from Amsterdam and are mixed with a lot of indica because they can't grow sativas very well up there.

If you really have to go cheap, I would try a few packs of a Haze or Thai knock-off. If you like some indica in your smoke too, take the edge off, then HazexNL should be good for the price and not too stinky. I've never grown them, but they are pretty common and you should be able to find a lot of grow reports on them.

If you can keep a mom indoors and want to be able to have a harvest every couple weeks all summer, then spend a few extra bucks on Early Durban from The Flying Dutchmen. A lot of sativas wont start to bloom until August or later, but Early Durban should start to flower as soon as you put it outside any time of year in Florida.

One more thing about bag seed. Even though the seeds I got from Jamaica were easy to grow, they didn't like to clone. That makes sense. In the third world they don't use electricity, don't keep moms, and hence they grow from seed instead of growing sin semilla. So, they never clone, have no idea which plants are easy to clone, don't care, and never select plants based on ease of cloning.

[Burnatree]

Anything you put outside after the first of May should be sativa. The rain and humidity in late June will likely turn your indicas moldy.

The land race sativas from Mexico, Columbia, Jamaica, etc. have great genetics for outdoor cultivation in warm climates. They can produce great buds when grown in warm climates. The problem is they are usually bagged while still damp and get old, stale, and moldy by the time consumers in the U.S.A. get them. That's why the smoke sucks and the seeds are hard to sprout. I pulled a bunch of seeds out of my friends' pot when we went on vacation in Jamaica and grew some killer pot from it here at home. I had at least 70% germination and I had plenty of seeds. If a cruise to Jamaica is out of the question for you, then you can either try LOTS of bag seed hoping a few crack, or you can buy a cheap sativa on-line.

By the way, do you happen to know anybody who lives in a warm third-world country who could send you some seeds? That would be cheap.

The problem is that most of the cheap seeds sold on-line are from Amsterdam and are mixed with a lot of indica because they can't grow sativas very well up there.

If you really have to go cheap, I would try a few packs of a Haze or Thai knock-off. If you like some indica in your smoke too, take the edge off, then HazexNL should be good for the price and not too stinky. I've never grown them, but they are pretty common and you should be able to find a lot of grow reports on them.

If you can keep a mom indoors and want to be able to have a harvest every couple weeks all summer, then spend a few extra bucks on Early Durban from The Flying Dutchmen. A lot of sativas wont start to bloom until August or later, but Early Durban should start to flower as soon as you put it outside any time of year in Florida.

One more thing about bag seed. Even though the seeds I got from Jamaica were easy to grow, they didn't like to clone. That makes sense. In the third world they don't use electricity, don't keep moms, and hence they grow from seed instead of growing sin semilla. So, they never clone, have no idea which plants are easy to clone, don't care, and never select plants based on ease of cloning.

Thanks alot tropical this makes life so much easier, espically the direction i need to go...i had a couple of successful sprouts pop out and go to seedling but carelessnes killed all three, i dont think they were getting enough light, wind damage seemed to be the problem the little seedling always seemed top heavy and the stems never seemed quite strong enough to hold the top of the plant up so i think im going to grow and veg indoors and move outdoors once they are out of the danger zone,

[k4rts]

when would my plants enter flower if i planted some seeds right now? btw reppin 727.

[Tropical]

when would my plants enter flower if i planted some seeds right now? btw reppin 727.

It's possible they might start to bloom by May. I doubt they would start sooner. Seedlings need to reach sexual maturity (sort of puberty) before they can flower. This is a good time to start seeds.

[Tropical]

Thanks alot tropical this makes life so much easier... i think im going to grow and veg indoors and move outdoors once they are out of the danger zone,

Keep in mind that sun light is very bright. It's best to prepare your little clones by transitioning them to that intensity gradually. It would be ideal if you have at least a 250watt MH or HPS lamp inside and gradually move the plants closer to the bulb. If you have to grow under less intense light, say fluoros, then you need to start them under partial shade and gradually move them to less shade over a week or so.

[Farmer Joe]

Got at least 3 weeks left, maybe 4, I'll check the trichomes.

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[beaner]

what strain is that farmer?

[Farmer Joe]

what strain is that farmer?

I might have said it above, but its either a very good bagseed or one of my AK-47 seeds.... not sure. Things got mixed up when I planted a few! :confused:

Here is a link to my grow diary on cannabis.com.
http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/99812-2nd-outdoor-grow.html

[Tropical]

I was asked via PM on where to buy seeds. Check out the ratings at this web site. Don't forget to add your own report after you buy seeds too.
http://www.seedbankupdate.com/su.html

As far as which strains to get, as I said before, bag seed should do great in Florida if grown properly. If you want to keep a mom indoors and put out clones to have a harvest every month, then get a strain like TFD Early Durban because it can bloom even in June, July, and August. If you also want an indica to grow in the dry season, then get Northern Lights (people say that Joey Weed makes a good one) or get THSeeds Hog if you want something more stinky. I grew Hog myself and it was very stinky and a potent couch lock. Hog was easy to grow, but not as easy as THSeeds Original Bubble Gum, which was incredibly easy, had good potency, and a strong odor, but it wasn't as much of a couch lock, it was more of a hybrid.

[Tropical]

Here are a couple photos to illustrate how much easier it is to grow some strains rather than others. I took cuts from two different moms on the same day. One of them was THSeeds Original Bubble Gum. It is known to root fast. The other mom was from another strain that isn't the slowest to clone that I've experienced, but it was slower than average. Notice the difference in root development. I grew SOG style, so I needed to root LOTS of clones. The genetics can make a huge difference.

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[Tropical]

whaz players .... some Heavy Duty Fruity grows coming to threaters soon....

How about an update?

[Farmer Joe]

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[Cannapits]

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[Tropical]

OK, here is a photo of my Kush at around six weeks of flowering. It's in a one gallon container. It looks like I might get half an ounce.

I have another plant than has been vegging in the one gallon container for around seven weeks now. I'll upcan it and put it outside. I hope that one gets me much more.
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[Guest]

my uncle grows in florida has to have a chainsaw for his stivas he is stuck inthe 70s his plants are all ancient seeds but it is very good weed onw of his buddies just brought him some seeds from holland so i hope he gets better genetics last time i talked his plants were going on 25 generations but he has no problem with anything so i bet when gets his strains up he will be doing better love my floridians well i will see u on the santa fe or at itchatuknee springs ill be cave diving and looking for arrow heads

[Cannapits]

tropical...thats OG1 all the way...peace bro

[Burnatree]

i hear alot about topping what is it and how do you do it too plants?

[Burnatree]

all the info you guys provided is on point, and the seedbank list is on point also hope to have some pics of my babies as soon as they are born:)

[Tropical]

all the info you guys provided is on point, and the seedbank list is on point also hope to have some pics of my babies as soon as they are born:)

So, what did you get? Do you already have your indoor veg room set up?

[Burnatree]

So, what did you get? Do you already have your indoor veg room set up?

not yet bro im in the process of moving so had to put some stuff on hold but i did run across some seeds i think i might give a shot going to list them tell me what you think. im going to build a grow box for inside the house or in my shed out back think the house might be safer and i want to do atleast 1 or 2 plants outside in a little gurillea type situation



AK47
AK47 X Cinderella 99
Apollo 11
Blueberry
Blueberry x AK47
Blue Apollo
Blueberry x C99
Blue Widow
Cinderella 99
C99 x Apollo 11
Moon Shadow
Northern Lights
NL x AK47
NL x C99
Sugar Berry
Sugar Blossom
White Russian
White Widow

[Gr8StonedDragon]

Can you flower outside now? I thought you couldn't do that til the end of summer? If so I might put one or two of my LifePoisons outside cuz it's getting crowded.

[Tropical]

Yes, you can still flower outside. How far north are you? In south Florida, the veg season lasts from around May through July. Some plants, especiall sativas might veg in April and August/September, but those are the exceptions. There are also many strains that will flower all year here, but they might get moldy in the rainy season.

If you wait until late April to start flowering, you run the risk of revegging.

[Tropical]

...im going to build a grow box for inside the house or in my shed out back...

You need air conditioning when you run artificial lights. I don't know why these same plants do fine outside in temps over 90F, but inside they fry. Even 85 will stress them and slow them down. Try to stay below 80.

AK47
AK47 X Cinderella 99
Apollo 11
Blueberry
Blueberry x AK47
Blue Apollo
Blueberry x C99
Blue Widow
Cinderella 99
C99 x Apollo 11
Moon Shadow
Northern Lights
NL x AK47
NL x C99
Sugar Berry
Sugar Blossom
White Russian
White Widow

Those sound good. Whose AK47 and Northern Lights do you have?

[Burnatree]

joey weed strains...figured i start off cheap and i have been hearing he has some pretty nice stuff so going to try it for my first grows

[Magi101]

I have a question i live in North East florida and its been 15 days i havent recieved my seedbay order, how long did it take you to get yours?

[kingspade]

hey guys

i got a few questions, which i'm sure have been asked and answered in this thread, i've scanned through, but havn't seen it (theres 54 pages to this thread)...

anyways, my mother lives in florida, and wants to start growing outdoors, she's asking me for advise, she knows i grow indoor, and i've only ever grown indoors, and don't know much about soil and outdoor grows...

so...

what months are for vegging and what months are for flowering?

what do you do about rain? if the plant has buds on it, and it rains, you just let the buds get wet, and they dry out i'm guessing...but would it be better if she were to take them inside (under the patio roof) so they don't get wet?

if anyones got some little pointers, that would be great...

[Tropical]

We should get Aquaman to edit his first post to include some kind of Florida growing FAQ. Here are some note's from previous questions at OG. If anybody has any suggestions for adding things to make this into an FAQ, speak up.


When to start MJ Outdoors in Florida

Originally posted by iceXmango.soundsGood
what is the very earliest in the year i can start vegging my plants outside? I know its somethin like late april/early may, but can't i do it any earlier? thanks

I see people keep asking about when to start outdoors in Florida. There are more questions asked on this topic than any other in this thread. I think it's time for us to write a detailed FAQ on it and paste it into one of the first posts in the thread.

I’ll get this started and then you guys can review my draft and make comments to improve it. First, we need to see what’s already in the OG on this. As far as I can tell, the only FAQ related to this topic is one that lists the average first and last frost days for a few selected cities. It shows Tampa usually gets their first and last frost in January, and Miami is frost free. 1445

The most important points to keep in mind are:

Genetics determine how much darkness a plant will need to flower. The number of hours of uninterrupted darkness each night that will induce blooming is called that plant’s “critical night length.” This is usually around ten to eleven hours. So, indoor growers keep the limit the dark period to six hours to keep plants in veg, and switch to twelve hours to induce flowering. That probably covers 99% of the plants.
The longest day of the year in the northern hemisphere is in late June, and the shortest day is around Christmas.
The closer you are to the equator the less fluctuation there is in day length. It’s 12/12 every day of the year on the equator.
Plants wont start to flower until they are sexually mature. This can take a couple months and the exact amount of time is affected by the plant’s genes. Clones will have the maturity of the mother. So, young seedlings will stay in veg even when given long nights, but mature clones will start to flower when they are given long enough nights. I think there’s an FAQ on how to tell when a plant is sexually mature.
I’ve seen several plants flower right through the longest day of the year (shortest night).
The shorter veg season we have here is actually an advantage in many ways. The plants stay shorter, so they’re more stealthy. The lower yield can be compensated by planting more plants and having more flowering seasons. The longer you leave your plants outside, the more you expose them to loss due to pests, pestilence, poachers, or police.
Frost isn't good for Cannabis plants, so, if you live someplace that gets cold in the winter, you should put up some kind of temporary greenhouse on the cold days. I've seen some clear pup tents that are made for this purpose and I posted a link to them in the previous Florida growers thread. Or, you can rig something yourself with a clear plastic tarp, like Visqueen.


I keep moms, clone, and veg indoors and then treat the great outdoors here as a huge flowering room. That way, you keep most of the odor and heat away from your home and you take advantage of the powerful free grow lamp in the sky. Find a couple stoner friends who have sunny backyards and put one small bush or bed of tiny clones out there each month. That will give you and your friends plenty stash to keep everybody happy.

Originally posted by heavenrse
So, in my inexperienced opinion, you could probably start outdoors twice a year, April and October.

Yes, April is a good time if you want your seed plants to veg a bit outdoors. Start sexually mature clones a few weeks later. What do you mean about October being a good time to start?

Originally posted by Aquaman2112
...if you start in oct. outside you end up with a 8inch bud, or a male! great to flower outside but needs the longer daylight to veg in or will go into flower as soon as she is old enough...

That’s right. Just remember that 8 inch buds aren’t bad if you have enough of them.

Originally posted by heavenrse
Can you speak more slowly? I'm not following. What's with the male thing?

Well, he’s just saying that a male wont give you an 8 inch bud, it will just give you a few balls.

What times of year are normal for starting outdoors (and staying outdoors)?

What do you mean by normal?

I also thought starting a bit later might contain the size a bit.....

Bingo!

Originally posted by JeebusCrunk
1st outdoor grow, many years ago, was Jamaican Sativa.

My first outdoor grow was Jamaican sativa too. I put two mature plants out in March and they started to flower right away, producing about six ounces. The second round went out in June and they flowered right through the summer solstice, the longest day of the year. Those plants must have had some indica in their genetics to flower early like that.

Originally posted by Aquaman2112
well sitivas will stretch and grow bigger outdoors but really I found May to be a good month to start here! some of my aprils flowered out! it will definatly contain the size...

Yes, many strains will flower here no matter when you put them outside.

[Tropical]

Pot Strains for Florida

I've never heard of anybody growing indica here in the summer without losing the whole grow to mold. I would save the indicas for the dry season, that's the winter here. You have veg them indoors or plant a lot of seeds though, because the short days will cause them to grow very small. I have some photos in my gallery of winter grown LUI.

In the summer, I would stick to a true tropical sativa. Those are meant for our climate. Bagseed usually works ok because seeded commercial mj usually comes from Mexico, Jamaica, Columbia, etc. They all have a climate similar to ours. If height is an issue, you can start them late, tie them down, scrog them, or top them. Topping also helps prevent mold because you end up with a bunch of small buds instead of single huge cola.

One more thing, I've heard of a lot of people around here losing their outdoor plants to pests. I like to start plants indoors and then put them outside only to flower them. That means they spend only half as much time exposed to pests. Plus, they are better able to survive grass hoppers and lizards once they have gotten more than a foot tall. Also, using fresh potting mix in a container instead of dirt in the ground helps because there are a lot of pests in the dirt and in the ground. The container is a barrier that slows down an invasion of root knot nematodes.

[Farmer Joe]

Just wanted to say its been a lovely few days here in FL and the rest of the week looks great!

[Burnatree]

Just wanted to say its been a lovely few days here in FL and the rest of the week looks great!

Yes it really has been incredible whether here lately loving florida

[Burnatree]

how long should i wait before i say forget it on some seeds im trying to germ, a few have the sprouts trying to come out but they just stopped midway its been a few days since i started them and im using the paper towel method the others havent popped yet is there a time limit when you should just call it a lost and start over

[Guest]

Its raining right now =[

[dj digigrow]

I found a great spot,, only thing is thier are some parkinglot lights nearbye, so I guess It will never have 100% darkness... is this bad?? should I find a new spot??

[beaner]

I found a great spot,, only thing is thier are some parkinglot lights nearbye, so I guess It will never have 100% darkness... is this bad?? should I find a new spot??
eh, to me parking lot means people, which means find a new spot.

[Tropical]

It's hard to find good spots. You might never find a perfect one. I would try a few plants there and keep looking for a better one, or at least an additional one so you don't have all your eggs in one basket.

[Guest]

Don't assume wide open spaces are free from a sudden explosion of land development.
Many a crop is lost to land clearing operations.

[Gr8StonedDragon]

Wow thanks for all the information Tropical! You've been typing hard. I'm glad we have someone with some experience to guide us along.

[JamericanSpliff]

anyone know any shops in south florida. trying to find fox farm but no one seems to have it or i'm just looking in the wrong places

[Tropical]

This is a list I started at OG. It isn't up to date, so you should call before driving out of your way to visit one. I've been to Goldcoast Hydro in Miami. If anybody has more current info, I'll try to update this list.

Hydroponics Supply in Miami

Growing Gardens In C
12811 SW 42nd St
Miami, FL 33175
Phone: (305) 559-0309


Gold Coast Hydroponics
4241 SW 71st Ave
Miami, FL 33155-4660
Phone: (305) 667-3400


Growing Experience the
13202 SW 131st St
Miami, FL 33186-5887
Phone: (305) 252-9113


Growing Gardens In C
12811 SW 42nd St
Miami, FL 33175
Phone: (305) 559-0309
UPDATE: I think this one moved someplace else.

http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgidir.dll?MEM=44&PR=109&CID=1500&S=FL&T=Miami

Gold Coast Hydroponic Greenhouse
1539 SW 21st Ave
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312-3111
Phone: (954) 561-7371

GROWING EXPERIENCE, The
1901 N.W. 18TH ST. #E
POMPANO BEACH, FL 33069 Phone: (954) 960-0822
Fax: (954) 960-1516

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Hydroponic Supply in Florida

General Hydroponics Distributors
AQUATIC ECO-SYSTEMS, INC
1767 BENBOW CT.
APOPKA, FL 32704 Phone: (407) 886-3939
Fax: (407) 886-1811
Website: www.aquaticeco.com

GOLD COAST GREENHOUSES
1539 S.W. 21ST AVE.
FT. LAUDERDALE, FL 33312 Phone: (800) 780-7371
Fax: (954) 797-6310

GREEN THUMB HYDROPONIC SUPPLY
8236 ENGLE PL UNIT 2
FT. MYERS, FL 33903 Phone: (239) 997-4769

PLANT SCIENCE & GARDEN SUPPLY
2724 NW 42ND PLACE
GAINESVILLE, FL 32605
Phone: (352) 375-1523

GARDENER'S EDGE HYDROPONICS
5000 NW 34TH ST, SUITE 13
GAINESVILLE, FL 32605 Phone: (652) 375-2769
Fax: (352) 375-2769
Email: duane@gardenersedgehydroponics .com
Website: www.gardenersedgehydroponics.c om

MR. GREEN JEANS GARDEN SHOP
1080 RIDGEWOOD AVE.
HOLLY HILL, FL 32117 Phone: (904) 252-8199

GROWING EXPERIENCE
2670-1 ROSSELLE ST
JACKSONVILLE, FL 32204 Phone: (800) 260-4769

SIMPLY HYDROPONICS
7949 ULMERTON RD
LARGO, FL 33771 Phone: (727) 531-5355
Fax: (727) 397-0030
Website: www.simplyhydro.com
SUNSHINE HYDROPONICS GARDEN CENTER
902 E. STATE RD. 434
LONGWOOD, FL 32750 Phone: (888) 833-4769
Phone: (407) 830-4769
Fax: (407) 830-5006
Email: hydroponics@hotmail.com

GOLD COAST GREENHOUSES
4241 SW 71st AVE
MIAMI, FL 33155 Phone: (800) 780-6805
Phone: (305) 667-3400
Fax: (305) 267-8540

THE GROWING EXPIERIENCE
13202 S.W. 131ST ST.
MIAMI, FL 33186 Phone: (800) 699-4429
Phone: (305) 252-9113

THE GROWING GARDEN, INC.
12811 S.W. 42ND ST.
MIAMI, FL 33175 Phone: (305) 559-0309
Fax: (305) 559-0120

GREENHOUSE HYDROPONICS
12183 SW 132ND COURT
MIAMI, FL 33186 Phone: (786) 242-2228

GREENTHUMB HYDROPONIC SUPPLY
8236 ENGLE PLACE, UNIT 2
NORTH FORT MEYERS, FL 33903 Phone: (239) 997-4769
Fax: (239)997-4249

AMERICAN AGRICULTURE
3857 N.W. 9TH AVE
OAKLAND PARK, FL 33309 Phone: (954) 567-1120
Fax: (954) 567-1128
Website: www.americanag.com

SUNSHINE HYDROPONICS GARDEN CENTER
5561 S. ORANGE BLOSSOME TR.
ORLANDO, FL, 32809 Phone: (406) 859-7728
Fax: (407) 859-5146

PENSOCOLA HYDROGARDEN
5044 N PALAFOX HWY
PENSACOLA, FL 32505 Phone: (850) 437-0777
fax: (850) 437-0013
Website: www.penhydro.com

THE GROWING EXPERIENCE
1901 N.W. 18TH ST. #E
POMPANO BEACH, FL 33069 Phone: (954) 960-0822
Fax: (954) 960-1516

WORM'S WAY
4402 NO. 56TH ST.
TAMPA, FL 33610 Phone: (800) 283-9676
Phone: (813) 621-1792
Fax: (813) 622-7843
Website: www.wormsway.com

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if your near StPete there is this one, been there the people that work @ this store are really freindly and help you in any way I was impressed with them!

http://www.simplyhydroponics.com/
Store Hours:

Tuesday - Friday
Saturday
10:00 AM to 4:00 PM
Sunday & Monday
10:00 AM to 6:00 PM

Contact Us:
Snail Mail:

Simply Hydroponics and Organics
7949 Ulmerton Rd. Largo, FL 33771
Phone:

(727) 531-5355

Fax:
(727) 531-6335

[Guest]

DEA/Sheriffs stake out Growing Experience and Gold Coast... be careful about where your going afterwards...

[Tropical]

DEA/Sheriffs stake out Growing Experience and Gold Coast... be careful about where your going afterwards...

How do you know that? It's always a good idea to be careful, but I've been to Gold Coast many times and I never had a problem.

[Cannapits]

I also know them to be watched...friend worked at gold coast...also the one on Bird road near 137th ave...or west of there is watched as well...Great place is at Krome ave and 248th st...always watch your ass and never take your car...stay safe

[Tropical]

While we're talking about security, let's mention the most common ways for growers to get caught.

1.) Informant: You're girlfriend knows about your grow, right? She catches you cheating, or she thinks she caught you cheating, or even just flirting with another girl. She gets jealous and swears out an affidavit that LEO uses to get a search warrant. That happened to a very well liked Florida grower and OG mentor named Jeast. It could also be another stoner doing time for something else and wants to get out early by serving up scalp to LEO. I personally know somebody in Florida who's own brother turned him in to get out of prison a few weeks early. Another Florida grower from OG named Gator1 had a former friend turn him in.

Lesson: Show no one, tell no one, trust no one. Shut down your grow before you break up with your girlfriend. Make sure you keep her happy enough that she wont try to hurt you.

2. Odor: You get used to the smell of pot and don't notice it any more, but your neighbors do. I've seen reports of busts in the local news where the LEO goes on TV and says that officers were dispatched because neighbors complained about odor. Sometimes neighbors don't complain until you get in a spat with one and he gets pissed at you. I read one time about a family that didn't say anything until they saw their family pet stagger around stoned. People love their pets (and their kids).

Lesson: Control that odor. Use redundant methods. Don't skimp on the size of your ozone generator. Go out of your way to make sure your neighbors are happy.

[Guest]

Go out of your way to make sure your neighbors are happy.
Keep contact to a minimum! And never dis their lame ass FSU Seminoles!

[Cannapits]

Keep contact to a minimum! And never dis their lame ass FSU Seminoles!

LMAO....so true

[Guest]

How do you know that? It's always a good idea to be careful, but I've been to Gold Coast many times and I never had a problem.

I have seen several grow bust articles naming the two stores. And I kinda live nearby, so I keep tabs on this shit. Thanks.

[Tropical]

That's good to know. Do you have any good keywords to use in Google to try to find the news articles? I would love to check it out and keep that kind of stuff handy for other Florida growers.

[Guest]

The articles were in the newspaper... they aren't online, sorry. You can try and use googles news search and see if ya find anything. So just tell your buddies not to take their cars there.. and don't go directly home after words.. take the scenic route to your destination.. the long scenic route.. switch vehicles, do whatever ya want to make it safer =]

[Guest]

Florida: City to Seize Homes Over a $5 Parking Ticket
Brooksville, Florida proposes to foreclose homes and seize cars over less than $20 in parking tickets.

The city council in Brooksville, Florida voted this week to advance a proposal granting city officials the authority to place liens and foreclose on the homes of motorists accused of failing to pay a single $5 parking ticket. Non-homeowners face having their vehicles seized if accused of not paying three parking offenses.

According to the proposed ordinance, a vehicle owner must pay a parking fine within 72 hours if a meter maid claims his automobile was improperly parked, incurring tickets worth between $5 and $250. Failure to pay this amount results in the assessment of a fifty-percent "late fee." After seven days, the city will place a lien on the car owner's home for the amount of the ticket plus late fees, attorney fees and an extra $15 fine. The fees quickly turn a $5 ticket into a debt worth several hundred dollars, growing at a one-percent per month interest rate. The ordinance does not require the city to provide notice to the homeowner at any point so that after ninety days elapse, the city will foreclose. If the motorist does not own a home, it will seize his vehicle after the failure to pay three parking tickets.

Any motorist who believes a parking ticket may have been improperly issued must first pay a $250 "appeal fee" within seven days to have the case heard by a contract employee of the city. This employee will determine whether the city should keep the appeal fee, plus the cost of the ticket and late fees, or find the motorist not guilty. Council members postponed a decision on whether to reduce this appeal fee until final adoption of the measure which is expected in the first week of April.

The full text of the ordinance is available in a 605k PDF file at the source link below.

Source: Ordinance No. 743 http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/docs/2007/brooksville.pdf (Brooksville, Florida City Council, 3/19/2007)

[Cannapits]

^^^^^what kind of bullshit is that?....I dont think we are the only ones on dope....

[JamericanSpliff]

dang, thanks Tropical, all make sure to check those places out. no worries here, i dont leave near to most of those places and the car isnt in my name. but i'll still probably take the long route home.

[Guest]

has anyone here tried hydroponics outside in FL? I think that a small 12 site system could mask 2 clones if kept small, fill the rest with roma toms and basil etc...

I know it's hot as hell here, but what systm do you think would be suitable for an outside setup in the yard with full sun for 7 hours a day. I would use a "5day cooler" with frozen bottles that would help keep temps down.

I was thinking ebbNflo to avoid temps changes. Cause the only time the water would leave the cooler would be to flood +5min. I think any recirc. systme would fail due to heat.

Do any of you have an oppinion on this?

[Tropical]

dang, thanks Tropical...

You're welcome. Let's make this Hydro shop list a collaborative effort. If everybody can put forth the tiny effort of letting me know when they come across outdated info, I can update the list for everybody's benefit.

[Tropical]

has anyone here tried hydroponics outside in FL?...

I gave this a little thought one time years ago. One issue I considered was keeping rain water from diluting your hydro solution. You might have to put a clear roof over the garden. There are clear panels that people sometimes use for hurricane protection over their windows.

...I was thinking ebbNflo to avoid temps changes. Cause the only time the water would leave the cooler would be to flood +5min. I think any recirc. systme would fail due to heat...

One thing about an ebb n flow table is that it would be harder to keep bugs and wind driven debris out. A 5gal bucket would be easier to keep mostly closed.

[Guest]

what about and ebbNflo using closed buckets. The net cup would allow air to escape and come back in. This would also eliminate the debris.

Build a table to set the buckets or RM Tubs on, plumb them up to the cooler, and grow.

I think it's doable. Im going to try it. If it comes out good, Ill post pics.

[jiggerman78]

Hey everybody im new to outdoor growing i just finished my first indoor grow... I want some floridians opinons on what seeds to grow, i want a sativa dominant but im concerned on price also im at 20*...

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/17820100_1096-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/17820100_1096.JPG)

[Tropical]

what about and ebbNflo using closed buckets. The net cup would allow air to escape and come back in. This would also eliminate the debris.

Build a table to set the buckets or RM Tubs on, plumb them up to the cooler, and grow.

I think it's doable. Im going to try it. If it comes out good, Ill post pics.


That sounds like an interesting plan. Don't wait until it comes out good before you post pics. Blog the entire grow. Some of us will be curious and you never know when somebody will come up with a good suggestion.

[Tropical]

Hey everybody im new to outdoor growing i just finished my first indoor grow... I want some floridians opinons on what seeds to grow, i want a sativa dominant but im concerned on price also im at 20*...

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/17820100_1096-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/17820100_1096.JPG)

That's a nice harvest. :yes:

Are you saying that you are 20 degrees north of the equator? That line runs between Cuba and Jamaica. All of the usa is well north of there.

Regs usually comes from places with a climate similar to ours. They are usually packed while still too damp and get that nasty moldy smell. If you grow it well and properly dry and cure it. You will get a good product. So, my advice is to use bagseed if you grow outdoors in a warm climate.

[jiggerman78]

Thank you i didnt want to be to precise just because of being online but come to think of it it would be very hard to find me im actually at 26*N, currently i have what seem to be sat. dominant regs seeds 20 of them, 15 have popped....and just for anyone who cant handle the truth regs is weed to, dont hate, smoke green....

[Guest]

That sounds like an interesting plan. Don't wait until it comes out good before you post pics. Blog the entire grow. Some of us will be curious and you never know when somebody will come up with a good suggestion.
True. Will due.
The mission, DIY hydro set-up for under $25. Finished with change to spare.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/hydroponics/78191d1154061680-hydro-hydro-its-heap-o-pot-ill-grow-bukit.jpeg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/hydroponics/78192d1154061680-hydro-hydro-its-heap-o-pot-ill-grow-pukit.jpeg
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http://www.gardenscure.com/420/attachments/hydroponics/186275d1164897481-air-vs-water-hydro-system-1001_4845.jpg
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I will be building my own rendition of this. I have everything exept plumbing. I also need to build a box for the res, so that I can insulate for temps. I have a container, and styrofome sheets 3/4" thick. All I need is a sheet of plywood to cut to size. Be back soon...

[Guest]

In response to the hydro stores in florida. I have had people follow me from the growing experience hydro shop in pompano. I thought it was some of the workers there themselves, but im not positive. Luckily I noticed them following me, as the shop is a good 15 miles away.

a car constantly following you in every lane on i95 and getting ony our ass isnt exactly hidden. I dont even go to any hydro stores anymore. I'de rather order online and ship to a safe address. Not to mention hydro shops around here are very expensive.

[gr0wmatic]

While we're talking about security, let's mention the most common ways for growers to get caught.

1.) Informant: You're girlfriend knows about your grow, right? She catches you cheating, or she thinks she caught you cheating, or even just flirting with another girl. She gets jealous and swears out an affidavit that LEO uses to get a search warrant. That happened to a very well liked Florida grower and OG mentor named Jeast. It could also be another stoner doing time for something else and wants to get out early by serving up scalp to LEO. I personally know somebody in Florida who's own brother turned him in to get out of prison a few weeks early. Another Florida grower from OG named Gator1 had a former friend turn him in.

Lesson: Show no one, tell no one, trust no one. Shut down your grow before you break up with your girlfriend. Make sure you keep her happy enough that she wont try to hurt you.

2. Odor: You get used to the smell of pot and don't notice it any more, but your neighbors do. I've seen reports of busts in the local news where the LEO goes on TV and says that officers were dispatched because neighbors complained about odor. Sometimes neighbors don't complain until you get in a spat with one and he gets pissed at you. I read one time about a family that didn't say anything until they saw their family pet stagger around stoned. People love their pets (and their kids).

Lesson: Control that odor. Use redundant methods. Don't skimp on the size of your ozone generator. Go out of your way to make sure your neighbors are happy.


well said !!

[gr0wmatic]

In response to the hydro stores in florida. I have had people follow me from the growing experience hydro shop in pompano. I thought it was some of the workers there themselves, but im not positive. Luckily I noticed them following me, as the shop is a good 15 miles away.

a car constantly following you in every lane on i95 and getting ony our ass isnt exactly hidden. I dont even go to any hydro stores anymore. I'de rather order online and ship to a safe address. Not to mention hydro shops around here are very expensive.



huh ive never felt followed from a hydro store .....
even paid with my CC ....
been doing it for years


unless u make it obvious ure doing something illegal ....
i believe its just paranoia .....
im not doubting your story ... j
ust imho i dont see the danger ...
if it were true then ud feel followed leaving a # of different stores ...
home depot, lowes, wallamart u can get all ure gr0wing needs there as well ... not name brand hydro products but ...

well im stoner rambling ....

puffpuff :: pass

[gr0wmatic]

Pot Strains for Florida

I've never heard of anybody growing indica here in the summer without losing the whole grow to mold. I would save the indicas for the dry season, that's the winter here. You have veg them indoors or plant a lot of seeds though,




come on now were gr0wing inside ... so ....

dam im rambling again ...

u outdoor gr0wers

[gr0wmatic]

Hey everybody im new to outdoor growing i just finished my first indoor grow... I want some floridians opinons on what seeds to grow, i want a sativa dominant but im concerned on price also im at 20*...

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/17820100_1096-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/17820100_1096.JPG)



IMHO trimmiong could be tighter ...

how long they gr0w for ??

picture is small but looks like a lot of white pistol still left on ....

have u check the trichomes color ??

[Tropical]

It's nice to see you stop by, gr0w. Where have you been? Don't be a stranger.

[idontgivenames]

just for reference, say if you wanted to pull of a fat lb per plant with a big yielding sativa strain (600 grams per sq meter indoor), when would you reccomend planting them for a place that's about the same lat as central fla with roughly the same weather? of course starting time garauntee's nothing, but what size pot's would you recommend to veg and flower in to secure the 1lb/1plant ratio?

[Cannapits]

I wouldnt use anything less than 5 gallon for that weight...best of luck

[gr0wmatic]

just for reference, say if you wanted to pull of a fat lb per plant with a big yielding sativa strain (600 grams per sq meter indoor), when would you reccomend planting them for a place that's about the same lat as central fla with roughly the same weather? of course starting time garauntee's nothing, but what size pot's would you recommend to veg and flower in to secure the 1lb/1plant ratio?



isnt that the nirvana of gr0wing ....

like Cannapits min 5 gaLLON POT (dam pinky cap lock)

go for 10 gallon tall and slender ....

roots gr0w down so if u can find a 10 gallon say 3 foot by 2 foot pot ....

and a fast gr0wing strain outdoors u might get lucky ....

ill take some pics today ....
got 2K (grow indoor) lights and know how to gr0w ...
do not yield one dry lb per plant (not for trying) ..


IMHO .. lb(dry)/plant is a great goal but only a few can archive it on a consistent level specially outside gr0wing ..

[Tropical]

I've never heard of anybody getting such large yields from a plant confined to a container. If you plant in the ground, you run a much larger risk of losing your plant to pests like root knot nematodes. Anyway, I guess that you would need at least a 15 gallon container for such a big plant.

Cannapits, gr0w: What size containers do you guys use outdoors and how much do you usually yield? I've only grown outdoors a few times, and the biggest container I used was five gallons and that produced around four ounces per plant. I have an Oger Kush outdoors now in a five gallon container. I'll post my yield, but it's not a very productive strain. It's more head stash.

[Cannapits]

Tropical I pull 4 oz dried in a 5 gallon bucket with that oger cut....then again I veg in hydro then transplant to soil to flower outside...PLUS THE CUT NEEDS TO GO 70 DAYS NOT 60...sorry damn caps button...best of luck...peace

[idontgivenames]

isnt that the nirvana of gr0wing ....

like Cannapits min 5 gaLLON POT (dam pinky cap lock)

go for 10 gallon tall and slender ....

roots gr0w down so if u can find a 10 gallon say 3 foot by 2 foot pot ....

and a fast gr0wing strain outdoors u might get lucky ....

ill take some pics today ....
got 2K (grow indoor) lights and know how to gr0w ...
do not yield one dry lb per plant (not for trying) ..


IMHO .. lb(dry)/plant is a great goal but only a few can archive it on a consistent level specially outside gr0wing ..

agreed. yeah, the ground would be better though tropical - but not if there's a rainy season. you know how rain is in the subtropics, roots would drown once hurricane season comes. unless it were to be elevated properly. anyhow, it's all a learning experience and you can never set a goal too high unless it's omnipotence.

[Tropical]

...THE CUT NEEDS TO GO 70 DAYS NOT 60...

That's good to know. I'll try 70 days this time. Last time, I grew it in a one gallon container and got half an ounce, including leaves, in about 58 days. I'll report back what happens this time going 70 days in a five gallon container. Thanks for the advice.

[Tropical]

...yeah, the ground would be better though tropical - but not if there's a rainy season. you know how rain is in the subtropics, roots would drown once hurricane season comes...

Growing in the ground has it's own set of problems. I would prefer to grow a few extra plants in containers instead of one huge one in the ground. If you're concerned about plant numbers, then bloom a new plant every other month. I actually prefer to start them every month and have two out at a time. That way, only one is at peak stinkyness at a time. You have to veg indoors and use a strain that will flower while the days are still long though.

[AccountWontWork]

Hey what's up guys :wave:

It's so cool to see familiar names haha! Haven't seen these names around in almost a year... Can't believe it's been that long.

Don't know if anyone remembers me or not but just stoppin' in. Old OG name was like the one I have now except

MyAccountWontWork

Take care everyone, good to see you guys stayed safe :yes:

[Tropical]

Welcome back. What have you been up to this past year? Did you have any good harvests? Is anything in the oven now?

[beaner]

hope everyone is well, my bagseed ladies are coming along nicely

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/165G-28c.jpg

still hunting for that perfect outdoor spot

[gr0wmatic]

Hey what's up guys :wave:

It's so cool to see familiar names haha! Haven't seen these names around in almost a year... Can't believe it's been that long.

Don't know if anyone remembers me or not but just stoppin' in. Old OG name was like the one I have now except

MyAccountWontWork

Take care everyone, good to see you guys stayed safe :yes:



yepper i remember ya !!! :tup:

[gr0wmatic]

still hunting for that perfect outdoor spot


looking nice ...

just bring inside its easier / cleaner .... !!!

control your own environment ..

u can be GOD of your own indoor greenhouse !!

[AccountWontWork]

Hey Tropical! :wave: Hey gr0wmatic! :wave:

It's totally cool you guys moved here from OG. After OG shutdown it got annoying trying to sift through everything that happend, so I just left it alone. Couple months back I thought I'd do a search for some web sites similar to OG and it led me here!

Didn't do to much growing last year. I was busy moving and working so didn't have the time to get anything set up. I just started an indoor grow a month ago and I have been keeping a thread in Micro Growers forum titled "150w HPS Attic Grow" Here's the link, http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=54601 It would be great if you guys stopped in. It's a small thread right now :D

How about you guys? Snag any dank harvests that I missed? Glad to see you guys are still safe :yes: This :joint: to y'all!

[AccountWontWork]

beaner your ladies are looking nice dude! Nice shade of green with sweet buds :yes:

I can't wait for my bagseed to start flowering :D

[Cannapits]

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/12809DSCF2454.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/12809DSCF2454.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/12809DSCF2451.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/12809DSCF2451.JPG)

[AccountWontWork]

Cannapits, sweet buds dude!!!

What's the weight on that!? Smoke me out sometime? =P

[Cannapits]

Thankyou very much....weight is unknown as she's drying...I figure 2 oz dried....she was the slowest plant I've ever had...she made Bubba kush look like a fast vegger....60 day vegtime for 2 oz's is out the question...dont think she will be staying in the mother area...As for the smoking you out...in a perfect world I'd smoke everyone out....but after just buying new property because of a security threat i'd have to respectfully decline at this point in time.....others in this thread I think will agree that i'm not greedy just safe minded....best of luck and stay safe...p.s...pleasure to meet you sir

[Tropical]

Yeah, Cannapits, safety first. That's not greedy, it's just smart.

[Tropical]

This Oger Kush was vegged five months from cut. I moved it from a one gallon container to five gallons about a week before I put it outside to finish. This photo was taken around three or four weeks from induction. I'll make sure she stays out the full ten weeks this time.

I'll be very happy if I get four ounces of buds and an ounce of leaves from this one. I got half an ounce total of buds and leaves last time in a one gallon container after 8 weeks of bloom.

[AccountWontWork]

Haha cannapits I was just kidding about the smoke out :D Secruity is always a top priority and I would never even actually suggest anyone from this site to smoke me out. Wouldn't want anything bad to happen.

Can't see the pic Tropical =(

[Tropical]

...Can't see the pic Tropical =(

Let me try again. The explanation is in my previous post.

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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/1826OgerKush4weeks-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/1826OgerKush4weeks.jpg)

[beaner]

Beautiful buds cannapits, I hope mine get fatter in the coming weeks

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/165newtric-med.jpg

[idontgivenames]

Growing in the ground has it's own set of problems. I would prefer to grow a few extra plants in containers instead of one huge one in the ground. If you're concerned about plant numbers, then bloom a new plant every other month. I actually prefer to start them every month and have two out at a time. That way, only one is at peak stinkyness at a time. You have to veg indoors and use a strain that will flower while the days are still long though.


indoors is out of the question and has to go full outdoors. would topping and using FIM techniques give many medium/small sized colas so you can lessen your chances of mold or anything? the avg flower date for satori in the n. hemisphere is mid october-november, so if colas are kept at a manageable density per square inch, they probably would be fine of mold - especially because mandals sativas are known to be VERY mold/pest resistant.

but have you done ground growns in subtropical weather during a hurricane season? it works?

[Tropical]

If you can't veg indoors, then you must be planning to grow all your plants from seed, right? There isn't any way to grow from clones without any indoor cultivation. You can still use an early strain and start a few seedlings every month to get 12 small harvests instead of one big one.

There was one guy here, I think it was HurricaneFanIAm, who grew a sativa outdoors on the Gulf coast of south Florida. It got absolutely huge before a hurricane killed it. Search for a thread called something like "monster outdoor grow" or "my outdoor monster".

Satori - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satori

[AccountWontWork]

indoors is out of the question and has to go full outdoors. would topping and using FIM techniques give many medium/small sized colas so you can lessen your chances of mold or anything? the avg flower date for satori in the n. hemisphere is mid october-november, so if colas are kept at a manageable density per square inch, they probably would be fine of mold - especially because mandals sativas are known to be VERY mold/pest resistant.

but have you done ground growns in subtropical weather during a hurricane season? it works?

Hey man what's up :yes:

Going full outdoors isn't so bad, and it's not that difficult... Easier then indoors in my opinion, except for the pests. First thing you should plan out is, how to avoid pests from destroying your grow. Pests pose the biggest threat to your chances of harvest. By growing outdoors your plants would more likely die from spider mites, (a huge problem here in FL) or a random animal taking a huge bite out of your colas, then a hurricane.

Two years ago I kept a thread on OG of my guerilla grow. I had two females growing under the canopy of other plants, in 5 gal. buckets recessed in the ground. I had a number of problems with pests. I was vegging these babies outdoors from seed and they grew great! (We can't forget that cannabis, after all, did survive on its own for thousands of years before we ever got our hands on it :wink: ) I had periods of rain and bad weather that would last for weeks, so my plants would endure high humidity, heat, and quantities of moisture constantly keeping the buds wet up untill around high noon. These plants survived through huge thunder storms, and even at times I would find them knocked over and buried in the dirt where limbs had fallen right on top of them! But never did my buds rot, and never did my plants die, despite all the harsh conditions. If my plants would have been subjected to an environment like I have described in an indoor grow-room, they would have died fast.

But you know what ended up severely reducing my harvest? It was spider mites. They ate away at my plants like a plague. It was ants. They burrowed deep into my plants root system. It was animals. They chomped away at my leaves and buds.

Your plants will survive the harsh conditions! Mother nature will make it work. But, if you don't take the necessary precautions to avoid the short comings of pests, then it was over before it even started.

Good luck man!

___________

Tropical that plant is huge! She looks so happy under the hot sun :)

When you're talking about an "ounce of leaves" What are you doing with them? Making hash? If so, how? I chopped a male plant I found tonight, and I was wondering if I could have used the leaves to make a little hash... If so... I'm going to be pissed because I trashed his nast, ball having, ass!

Take care guys! I'm drunk and hio=gh right now and life is good! Toke on!

P.S. Under Cannapits name it says banned... Is that for real? Or did he just put that under there...

[Tropical]

AccountWontWork, you're right about pests. It only takes one lizard to chomp down a precious seedling. Now, think about how many lizards are out there. In nature, every marijuana plant that survives to finish blooming will drop thousands of seeds, so 99% of those plants could die and the specious would still thrive.

The little leaves on the buds are good for hash or honey oil. The fan leaves are good for Cannabutter. Even if the leaves came from males, just throw at least 8oz (dry weight) of leaves in a pot of boiling water with a pound of butter. Strain the liquid and discard the leaves. Chill the liquid so the butter will solidify on top where you can easily skim it off and use it to bake a batch of cookies. You can easily make three batches of potent cookies from that butter.

[Guest]

Got a Q...

Based on websites about FL sunrise and set times, from May to Aug there is too much sunlight for flowering outside. Is this the case?

Would a plant grown indoors under 24hs of light flower outside with only 10hours of night?

Waht are your exps with summer growing outside?

[Tropical]

How much sunlight do you think is too much to flower? Remember, we veg under 18 hours of HID per day. We never get that much sunlight in Florida.

In my experience, this is very dependent on genetics. Even the same strain of mj can vary from seedling to seedling. Also, some plants will take longer to reach sexual maturity than others. That is basically puberty and mj can't bloom until then no mater how much light it receives.

I've found that most strains, especially indicas and hybrids, can flower here in south Fla. all year long. Our days are never long enough to keep them in veg past puberty. I have heard of sativas that will stay in veg here though. Check out HurricaneFanIAm's thread called something like "My Outdoor Monster" for an example of a plant that stayed in veg. That was a sativa bagseed, iirc. For an example of a plant that wouldn't veg outdoors here, at OG I blogged my grow that finished outdoors in July. I think that was in the year 2002.

[AccountWontWork]

Got a Q...

Based on websites about FL sunrise and set times, from May to Aug there is too much sunlight for flowering outside. Is this the case?

Would a plant grown indoors under 24hs of light flower outside with only 10hours of night?

Waht are your exps with summer growing outside?

Never had problems with a plant flowering between may and aug. My last outdoor grow started flowering in June. June 22 to be exact :)

But yes, if you vegged a plant outdoors, and it had a dark period outdoors for 10 hours, it would flower. However, like Tropical said plants are their own individual. They will all muture, ripe, and flower at their own times when they are ready. You just have to watch :yes:

[Guest]

cool. THanks guys.

[Tropical]

Never had problems with a plant flowering between may and aug...

Have you ever grown pure or nearly pure tropical landrace sativa outdoors in Florida in the spring? I have a feeling that might veg, like HurricaneFan's bagseed outdoor monster. That one stayed in veg all summer. We don't know when it would have flowered because it got killed by Hurricane Charley. It looked like it would have produced more than ten pounds.

I had a Sweet Tooth #4 a few years ago indoors. In a stoner moment I accidentally set my timer to 16/8 instead of 18/6. All my strains stayed in veg except the SwT4. Those seed plants started to flower. They weren't clones, they were seed plants, so it seems like that strain has the tendency to flower early. I had moms for five other strains at the time that all stayed in veg.

The ideal set-up here is to veg indoors and put out a few clones every month.

[AccountWontWork]

Have you ever grown pure or nearly pure tropical landrace sativa outdoors in Florida in the spring? I have a feeling that might veg, like HurricaneFan's bagseed outdoor monster. That one stayed in veg all summer. We don't know when it would have flowered because it got killed by Hurricane Charley. It looked like it would have produced more than ten pounds.

I had a Sweet Tooth #4 a few years ago indoors. In a stoner moment I accidentally set my timer to 16/8 instead of 18/6. All my strains stayed in veg except the SwT4. Those seed plants started to flower. They weren't clones, they were seed plants, so it seems like that strain has the tendency to flower early. I had moms for five other strains at the time that all stayed in veg.

The ideal set-up here is to veg indoors and put out a few clones every month.

I don't see why a pure sative wouldn't veg. I've only ever grown bagseed so what I get is what I got =P I usually just throw my beans that I collect from good regs in a jar and germ them as needed. So I'll end up with 5 plants that all grow different. Some will flower really early, some will take forever to even show sex. It just really shows you how different one plant can be.

I agree with you 100% that the ideal grow will be vegged indoors, then placed outdoors to flower. Like you've said in previous posts. Vegging your plants indoors, then placing them in the real world, will reduce the chances of pest shitting on your ladies.

[Tropical]

I don't see why a pure sative wouldn't veg...

In two of my posts, including the one you quoted, I said that a sativa CAN veg in Florida. If you grow from seed it will definitely stay in veg at least until sexual maturity.

Are you saying that a pure sativa should ALWAYS veg in June? I don't think that is true, especially here in south Florida. I have had bagseed flower through the entire month of June and finish in July. It might not have been pure, but I have also heard of others who have had sativas flower in the summer too. I think it will depend on genetics of the particular girl.

[AccountWontWork]

In two of my posts, including the one you quoted, I said that a sativa CAN veg in Florida. If you grow from seed it will definitely stay in veg at least until sexual maturity.

Yeah I was agreeing with you that a sativa could veg. Maybe I just typed it weird, I don't know, haha I was pretty stoned at the time... :yes:


Are you saying that a pure sativa should ALWAYS veg in June?

Nah, I had two plants flower from June to around mid August. June was verrrry good to me :D

:joint:

[Tropical]

It's all good. One should never be surprised here to come across a post written while under the influence. I may have done that myself before too. ;-)

[Guest]

I thought that you needed 12hours of night to get flowers and full buddage. So you're saying that this is NOT the case? That's cool.

there is a spot that only gets 4.5 hours of strong direct sun from 12 to 430, pror to that it's under moderate shade, after that it's in full shade.

With a "low light" strain, 4 strong hours should be sufficient right?

[Burnatree]

Homestead Marijuana Lab Bust

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT April 24, 2007
UPDATED: 7:11 pm EDT April 24, 2007
HOMESTEAD, Fla. -- A marijuana operation was busted in Homestead after undercover agents discovered a hydroponic lab.

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Police said they discovered the lab Tuesday afternoon, which brings their total number of grow houses busted to 50 in South Florida alone.

Investigators said they are so alarmed by these numbers that the deputy director of the Office of Policy Control in Washington has been called in to assess the situation. He was supposed to be in South Florida Tuesday to speak with narcotics detectives, but couldn't make the trip.

Investigators arrested seven people in connection with the marijuana lab.

They also searched eight houses and were able to confiscate seven weapons and 350 pounds of marijuana. Police confirmed that the marijuana's street value was $1.2 million.

Residents in the neighborhood of the Homestead home said they are extremely grateful for the police presence and persistence with the issue.

"I just want to honor the police officers and detectives that keep doing what they are doing, and all the neighbors in the neighborhood to continue to call crime watch because this has gone on too frequently in the homes around our neighborhoods and we have our children and the youth," Gregory Polanco said.

Police said residents may want to call if they think something suspicious is going on in their neighborhood.

They said that an illegal lab uses chemicals, as well as propane tanks, which are a huge fire hazard.

Once they explode, police said the fire would not only affect those growing the plants illegally, but also the neighborhood as a whole.

[Guest]

They said that an illegal lab uses chemicals, as well as propane tanks, which are a huge fire hazard.

are they talking about a meth lab or a grow op..lol

[Burnatree]

are they talking about a meth lab or a grow op..lol
i think thats how the feds and news are wording things now to make it seem like growing mj can cause your neighborhood to explode, this is the second time in the past 2 weeks in south florida propane was mentioned i can only assume its use for like a co2 generator or something...but the chemicals does sound like a met lab..they should have just said ferts..but it wouldnt sound like the boogie man then

[k4rts]

727, 352 if you're near pm me

[beaner]

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/165G-42a.jpg

[Gr8StonedDragon]

Your grow looks a lot like mine Beaner. I have two small plants as well. Except I'm just using 4 x 42W CFL with LST.

I'm growing a cross I made from BOG Lifesaver and AFR Durban Poison. Just started to turn purple surprisingly; since my temps are ~75-80F. Only a few weeks away from harvest. One will be done within 2 weeks and I'm not sure about the other. If only I had a digi cam.

I'd like to know what your yield ends up being for comparison. Good luck man!

[beaner]

Your grow looks a lot like mine Beaner. I have two small plants as well. Except I'm just using 4 x 42W CFL with LST.

I'm growing a cross I made from BOG Lifesaver and AFR Durban Poison. Just started to turn purple surprisingly; since my temps are ~75-80F. Only a few weeks away from harvest. One will be done within 2 weeks and I'm not sure about the other. If only I had a digi cam.

I'd like to know what your yield ends up being for comparison. Good luck man!

I wish you had a digicam too sounds nice :)

I am growing bagseed so it has been a challenge trying to keep the plants (with what seems to be very different needs) happy.

My lighting has changed a few times during the grow (due to heat), right now its 3x 26w cfl 1x 15w cfl, and a 50w hps... I can really tell how much potential I am losing though because of the lack of light, next go around a 150w hps with reflector is in order I think (as long as I can keep it cool)

Im not sure if I will throw them on a scale but I will have pics once harvest time comes (at day 50 flower now)

[Tropical]

Dragon, you don't have any digicam at all? Not even one on your cell phone or camcorder? The pics of my current grow were taken by a cell phone cam. I took the other pics with my Sony camcorder.

Beaner, you lucked out with your bagseed. Very often seeded mj comes from Mexico where they do the entire grow outdoors and use strains that aren't suited at all to indoor cultivation. They tend to grow very long and lanky with small buds instead of short and bushy with fat colas. I had one that stubbornly refused to clone. Since they grow outdoors, they wouldn't even know if the strain cloned well or not, so they obviously don't breed for ease of cloning. Otoh, bagseed often is great for growing outdoors in a warm climate like Florida.

[tankgunner]

[QUOTE=Burnatree]Homestead Marijuana Lab Bust

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT April 24, 2007
UPDATED: 7:11 pm EDT April 24, 2007
HOMESTEAD, Fla. -- police said they discovered the lab Tuesday afternoon, which brings their total number of grow houses busted to 50 in South Florida alone.

Man they busted 2 houses this week already here in town. I mean it's like every other week and shit. And has been it seems for the last few years i'm not bullshittin either.
And they get popped for the dumbest shit, come on! Dont bring the heat to this neighborhood damb.
Here I am trying to keep a low profile while you have all the illegal aliens bringing the heat and clogging up the emergency rooms,bastards

[tankgunner]

I happen to be raising Brainstorm from DPF and Kali-Most from MOD this season. I'm hoping for the best we'll see. My main concern from previous ops is security and pests.

[beaner]

Tropical:The bud I got it from was pretty good and for not having any sort of known genetics I can't complain about these buds:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/165G-57a.jpg
Gr8StonedDragon: Nice! Its a shame about the males but it sounds like you have a bit of a seed bank to work with until you got females, smart move!

[sleepyrz]

hello to all my fellow floridians

and a special hello to all my 305/786 residents

new to this site

but not new to the grow

just wanted to stop by and say hi

currently im doing mango(love that smell) and a bag that i call sprite as it has a lemon/lime flavor/smell to it

the mango is very easy to disguise as everyone has mango trees around here

so the smell doesnt even have to be masked

only thing im looking at now is finding some ducksfoot for some stealth outdoor runs

if anyone needs a line on buckets i recently found a stockpile of free ones

there were approximately 3-4 million buckets <~~not an exxageration

they were left behind after a nursery shutdown

[evlme2]

O'town here. Fuckin A watch your backs my fellow Floridians, the fuckin heat is on! Grow opps of all sizes been getting bust EVERY SINGLE DAY. Trust NO ONE :sasmokin:

[sleepyrz]

seriously i havnt seen many small timers getting popped

mostly its been like 20 house rings and the like with too many people to keep them all quiet


remember by telling one person your chances of getting fukked has risen like 50%

with 20 houses and sometimes 2-3 people running each house

do the math on that your chances of getting pinched has increased like 40000000%

[Captain Ginyu]

Florida is not the state to be caught fuckin' with the erb, folks! No joke here with the draconian laws. This state is the freakin war zone! So keep em short, bushy, and stealthy!

[Dkgrower]

Hey to all florida growers, with love from Denmark, have lived out side tampa, plant cty. Fore some time, many years back. I had a grower freind and we pulled 2 outdoor grows a year, that was sweeth.

Hope you all stay safe

[Ayden116]

What's good florida.............been awhile but back @ it...tryin my hand at some bagseed while my genetics arrive

[Guest]

Whats with all grow house busts in port st lucie the past year or two? I swear every week they are busting a house with ~600+ plants in it. Is it linked to some mexican drug cartel? They say its always illegal immigrants taking care of the plants/house but they cant find how the people would have started it, because its all been wired and setup by "experts".

[Tropical]

Ayden, welcome to IC Mag. Bagseeds should get you some fine herb when grown, dried, and cured properly. Are you growing outdoors in Florida? They usually come from places where they grow outdoors in a warm climate.

syztem, I noticed a lot of busts up there too. I didn't know that they might be all related.

[sour d tox]

how about miami? no busts going on there? alot of the haze i see around my way is from there. I was accually supposed to head down there to talk to couple friends of friends u know.....

[Tropical]

Of course there are busts in Miami sometimes. It's a city of 2 million people. There are bound be be lots of grow houses here. I've seen more busts in the tiny county of Port St. Lucie than Miami. The last one I saw here was in a large old warehouse and was discovered when it caught fire and the fire crews went in to put it out.

[tankgunner]

cracker:
yeah in florida summer a sealed room with a dedicated a/c is the way to go.
not only because of humidity and temps but our lil island is a bug breeding ground as well. the little bastages WILL hunt down any unsecured grow and set up a buffet.
also the res temps in your hydro setup will need to be controled.

hope this helps
r+


i respectfully disagree you can grow little plants inside in florida and illinois both if your not concerned about size. florida in the summer doesnt get much better probably. you just have to keep on them as far as pests,critters and such. yes it's a lot of hard work to grow them outside because of bugs,hogs,deer and shit,but hard work pays off. and size does matter if you want a bigger yield.

[tankgunner]

[QUOTE=motaco]yeh plants will burn if you don't get them hardened off right.


never harden off never any problems though i do transplant late in the day.

[dj digigrow]

whats with the sand?? no dirt... dig a hole its all sand?? whats the cheapest way to fill it back in... topsoil with worm castings and perilite?? then just topfeed?? will that work??

[Tropical]

It sounds like it's worth a shot. You can probably cut back a little on the perlite since you'll be using sand as a container. That stuff drains very fast. Also, watch for salt water, even from sea spray. MJ doesn't like too much salt.

[dj digigrow]

bumpity bump bump

[trouble]

HELLO FLORIDA ! Trouble, here in The Garden of Good & Evil.

[bigsmoke386]

Here is the first pheno:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_009-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_009.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_010-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_010.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_012-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_012.jpg)

Here is the other one:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_008-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_008.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_007.jpg)

Here they are together
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_014-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_014.jpg)

Then we got my 2 clones I rooted, Ill be cloning my 2 mothers by tomorow sooo ill have plenty more where these came from

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_0071-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/21917My_girls_0071.jpg)

[Blind Ambition]

Hi Florida growers. It's good to see the FL growers still growing hard.....

[Guest]

Quick question for you Florida folks...

I know there has to be at least one of you who have to deal with constant power outages or just random power flickering due to the weird ass weather here... those who have to deal with this through out the year, can you offer any suggestions as to what kind of timers you use to combat this problem? I bought the T101 timer and then realized this would not work due to power outages.. (even if it is a little thunderstorm, the power shits out 60%+ of the time)

Thanks =]

I know I need a digi timer with battery backup, but I would love to hear your opinions on units that are not prone to failure.

[Tropical]

You have to use mechanical timers because the electronic ones can't handle the ballasts on HID lights. I'm not sure if it has more to do with the size of the load or the inductive nature of it, but you need a heavy duty timer for sure. The mechanical timers don't really get affected by brief power outages, the clock on the timer will just be delayed by the amount of time the power is down. When the power is out an extended period, I just reset the clock.

[dj digigrow]

o.k. so I have a few out already budding.. my question was, when will be the best time to put out more to VEG. for the next round Dec. Jan.???

[Tropical]

The best time to start vegging outdoors is March/April for seedlings and May for clones. You'll have to experiment a little to find the exact best date for your genes.

If you want a harvest in the winter, then you will have to do your vegging indoors. SoG works well in the winter.

In Florida it's great to veg indoors and put a few clones out every month.

[Guest]

what happens if they were put out next week? Sorry, haven't looked at an almanac lately...

[Tropical]

The day/night schedule here is very close to 12/12 now and it will continue to favor blooming until next spring. Seedlings will stay in veg until they are sexually mature, so you can still get a decent yield if you have enough seeds. Otherwise, put out a bunch of six inch clones in a sea of green.

[Tropical]

Here is a repost an explanation I wrote at OG:

When to start MJ Outdoors in Florida

Originally posted by iceXmango.soundsGood
what is the very earliest in the year i can start vegging my plants outside? I know its somethin like late april/early may, but can't i do it any earlier? thanks

I see people keep asking about when to start outdoors in Florida. There are more questions asked on this topic than any other in this thread. I think it's time for us to write a detailed FAQ on it and paste it into one of the first posts in the thread.

I’ll get this started and then you guys can review my draft and make comments to improve it. First, we need to see what’s already in the OG on this. As far as I can tell, the only FAQ related to this topic is one that lists the average first and last frost days for a few selected cities. It shows Tampa usually gets their first and last frost in January, and Miami is frost free. 1445

The most important points to keep in mind are:

Genetics determine how much darkness a plant will need to flower. The number of hours of uninterrupted darkness each night that will induce blooming is called that plant’s “critical night length.” This is usually around ten to eleven hours. So, indoor growers keep the limit the dark period to six hours to keep plants in veg, and switch to twelve hours to induce flowering. That probably covers 99% of the plants.
The longest day of the year in the northern hemisphere is in late June, and the shortest day is around Christmas.
The closer you are to the equator the less fluctuation there is in day length. It’s 12/12 every day of the year on the equator.
Plants wont start to flower until they are sexually mature. This can take a couple months and the exact amount of time is affected by the plant’s genes. Clones will have the maturity of the mother. So, young seedlings will stay in veg even when given long nights, but mature clones will start to flower when they are given long enough nights. I think there’s an FAQ on how to tell when a plant is sexually mature.
I’ve seen several plants flower right through the longest day of the year (shortest night).
The shorter veg season we have here is actually an advantage in many ways. The plants stay shorter, so they’re more stealthy. The lower yield can be compensated by planting more plants and having more flowering seasons. The longer you leave your plants outside, the more you expose them to loss due to pests, pestilence, poachers, or police.
Frost isn't good for Cannabis plants, so, if you live someplace that gets cold in the winter, you should put up some kind of temporary greenhouse on the cold days. I've seen some clear pup tents that are made for this purpose and I posted a link to them in the previous Florida growers thread. Or, you can rig something yourself with a clear plastic tarp, like Visqueen.


I keep moms, clone, and veg indoors and then treat the great outdoors here as a huge flowering room. That way, you keep most of the odor and heat away from your home and you take advantage of the powerful free grow lamp in the sky. Find a couple stoner friends who have sunny backyards and put one small bush or bed of tiny clones out there each month. That will give you and your friends plenty stash to keep everybody happy.

Originally posted by heavenrse
So, in my inexperienced opinion, you could probably start outdoors twice a year, April and October.

Yes, April is a good time if you want your seed plants to veg a bit outdoors. Start sexually mature clones a few weeks later. What do you mean about October being a good time to start?

Originally posted by Aquaman2112
...if you start in oct. outside you end up with a 8inch bud, or a male! great to flower outside but needs the longer daylight to veg in or will go into flower as soon as she is old enough...

That’s right. Just remember that 8 inch buds aren’t bad if you have enough of them.

Originally posted by heavenrse
Can you speak more slowly? I'm not following. What's with the male thing?

Well, he’s just saying that a male wont give you an 8 inch bud, it will just give you a few balls.

What times of year are normal for starting outdoors (and staying outdoors)?

What do you mean by normal?

I also thought starting a bit later might contain the size a bit.....

Bingo!

Originally posted by JeebusCrunk
1st outdoor grow, many years ago, was Jamaican Sativa.

My first outdoor grow was Jamaican sativa too. I put two mature plants out in March and they started to flower right away, producing about six ounces. The second round went out in June and they flowered right through the summer solstice, the longest day of the year. Those plants must have had some indica in their genetics to flower early like that.

Originally posted by Aquaman2112
well sitivas will stretch and grow bigger outdoors but really I found May to be a good month to start here! some of my aprils flowered out! it will definatly contain the size...

Yes, many strains will flower here no matter when you put them outside.

[Tropical]

Here is some background info that is useful to this discussion:

Latitude and Photoperiod

Change in photoperiod is the factor that usually triggers the developmental stages of Cannabis. Photoperiod and seasonal cycles are determined by latitude. The most even photoperiods and mildest seasonal variations are found near the equator, and the most widely fluctuating photoperiods and most radical seasonal variations are found in polar and high altitude locations. Areas in intermediate latitudes show more pronounced seasonal variation depending on their distance from the equator or height in altitude. A graph of light cycles based on latitude is helpful in exploring the maturation and cycles of Cannabis from various latitudes and the genetic adaptations of strains to their native environments.

The wavy lines follow the changes in photoperiod (daylength) for two years at various latitudes. Follow, for example, the photoperiod for 400 north latitude (Northern California) which begins along the left-hand margin with a 15-hour photoperiod on June 21 (summer solstice). As the months progress to the right, the days get shorter and the line representing photoperiod slopes downward. During July the daylength decreases to 14 hours and Cannabis plants begin to flower and produce THC. (Increased THC production is represented by an increase in the size of the dots along the line of photoperiod.) As the days get shorter the plants flower more profusely and produce more THC until a peak period is reached during October and November. After this time the photoperiod drops below 10 hours and THC production slows. High-THC plants may continue to develop until the winter solstice (shortest day of the year, around December 21) if they are protected from frost. At this point a new vegetative light cycle starts and THC production ceases. New seedlings are planted when the days begin to get long (12-14 hours) and warm from March to May. Farther north at 600 latitude the day-length changes more radically and the growing season is shorter. These conditions do not favor THC production.

Light cycles and seasons vary as one approaches the equator. Near 200 north latitude (Hawaii, India, and Thailand where most of the finest drug Cannabis originates), the photoperiod never varies out of the range critical for THC production, between 10 and 14 hours. The light cycle at 200 north latitude starts at the summer solstice when the photoperiod is just a little over 13 hours. This means that a long season exists that starts earlier and finishes later than at higher latitudes. However, because the photoperiod is never too long to induce flowering, Cannabis may also be grown in a short season from December through March or April (90 to 120 days). Strains from these latitudes are often not as responsive to photoperiod change, and flowering seems strongly age-determined as well as light determined. Most strains of Cannabis will begin to flower when they are 60 days old if photoperiod does not exceed 13 hours. At 200 latitude, the photoperiod never exceeds 14 hours, and easily induced strains may begin flowering at nearly any time during the year.

Equatorial areas gain and lose daylength twice during the year as the sun passes north and south of the equator, resulting in two identical photoperiodic seasons. Rainfall snd altitude determine the growing season of each area, but at some locations along the equator it is possible to grow two crops of fully mature Cannabis in one year. By locating a particular latitude on the chart, and noting local dates for the last and first frosts and wet and dry seasons, the effective growing season may be determined. If an area has too short an effective growing season for drug Cannabis, a greenhouse or other shelter from cold, rainy conditions is used. The timing of planting and length of the growing season in these marginal conditions can also be determined from this chart.

For instance, assume a researcher wishes to grow a crop of Cannabis near Durban, South Africa, at 300 south latitude. Consulting the graph of maturation cycles will reveal that a long-photoperiod season, adequate for the maturation of drug Cannabis, exists from October through June. Local weather conditions indicate that average temperature ranges from 60~ to 80~ F. and annual precipitation from 30 to 50 inches. Early storms from the east in June could damage plants and some sort of storm protection might be necessary. Any estimates made from this chart sre generally accurate for photoperiod; however, local weather conditions are always taken into account.

Combination and simplification of the earth’s climatic bands where Cannabis is grown yields an equatorial zone, north and south subtropical zones, north and south temperate zones, arctic and antarctic zones. A discussion of the maturation cycle for drug Cannabis in each zone follows.

Equatorial Zone - (15 south latitude to 15 north latitude)

At the equator the sun is high in the sky all year long. The sun is directly overhead twice a year at the equinoxes, March 22 and September 22, as it passes to the north and then the south. The days get shortest twice a year on each equinox. As a result, the equatorial zone has two times during the year when floral induction can take place and two distinct seasons, These seasons may overlap but they are usually five to six months long and unless the weather forbids, the fields may be used twice a year. Colombia, southern India, Thailand, and Malawi all lie on the fringes of the equatorial zone between 10 and 15 latitude. It is interesting to note that few if any areas of commercial Cannabis cultivation, other than Colombia, lie within the heart of the equatorial zone. This could be because most areas along the equator or very near to it are extremely humid at lower altitudes, so it may be impossible to find a dry enough place to grow one crop of Cannabis, much less two. Wild Cannabis occurs in many equatorial areas but it is of relatively low quality for fiber or drug production. Under cultivation, however, equatorial Cannabis has great potential for drug production.

Northern and Southern Subtropical Zones - (15 to 30 north and south latitudes)

The northern subtropical zone is one of the largest Cannabis producing areas in the world, while the southern subtropical zone has little Cannabis. These areas usually have a long season from February-March through October-December in the northern hemisphere and from September-October through March-June in the southern hemisphere. A short season may also exist from December or January through March or April in the northern hemisphere, spanning from 90 to 120 days. In Hawaii, Cannabis cultivators sometimes make use of a third short season from June through September or September through December, but these short seasons actually break up the long subtropical season during which some of the world’s most potent Cannabis is grown. Southeast Asia, Hawaii, Mexico, Jamaica, Pakistan, Nepal, and India are all major Cannabis-producing areas located in the northern subtropical zone.

North and South Temperate Zones - (30 to 60 north and south latitudes)

The temperate zones have one medium to long season stretching from March-May through September-December in the northern hemisphere and from September-November through March-June in the southern hemisphere. Central China, Korea, Japan, United States, southern Europe, Morocco, Turkey, Lebanon, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and Kashmir are all in the north temperate zone. Many of these nations are producers of large amounts of fiber as well as drug Cannabis. The south temperate zone includes only the southern portions of Australia, South America, and Africa. Some Cannabis grows in all three of these areas, but none of them are well known for the cultivation of drug Cannabis.

Arctic and Antarctic Zones - (60 to 70 north and south latitudes)

The arctic and antarctic zones are characterized by a short, harsh growing season that is not favorable for the growth of Cannabis, The arctic season begins during the very long days of June or July, as soon as the ground thaws, and continues until the first freezes of September or October. The photoperiod is very long when the seedlings appear, but the days rapidly get shorter and by September the plants begin to flower. Plants often get quite large in these areas, but they do not get a long enough season to mature completely and the cultivation of drug Cannabis is not practical without a greenhouse. Parts of Russia, Alaska, Canada, and northern Europe are within the arctic zone and only small stands of escaped fiber and drug Cannabis grow naturally. Cultivated drug strains are grown in Alaska, Canada, and northern Europe in limited quantities but little is grown on a commercial scale. Rapidly maturing, acclimatized hybrid strains from temperate North America are probably the best suited for growth in this area. Fiber strains also grow well in some arctic areas. Breeding programs with Russian Cannabis ruderalis could yield very short season drug strains.

It becomes readily apparent that most of the drug Cannabis occurs in the northern subtropical and northern temperate zones of the world. It is striking that there are many unutilized areas suitable for the cultivation of drug Cannabis the world over. It is also readily apparent that the equatorial zone and subtropical zones have the advantage of an extra full or partial season for the cultivation of Cannabis.

Strains that have become adapted to their native latitude will tend to flower and mature under domestic cultivation in much the same pattern as they would in their native conditions. For example, in northern temperate areas, strains from Mexico (subtropical zone) will usually completely mature by the end of October while strains from Colombia (equatorial zone) will usually not mature until December. By understanding this, strains may be selected from latitudes similar to the area to be cultivated so that the chances of growing drug Cannabis to maturity are maximized. The short season of Hawaii, Mexico, and other subtropical areas constitutes a separate set of environmental factors (distinct from the long season) that influence genotype and favor selection of a separate short-season strain. The maturation characteristics can vary greatly between these two strains because of the length of the season and differences in response to photoperiod. For that reason, it is usually necessary to determine if Hawail and California strains have been bred specifically for either the short or long season, or if they are used indiscriminately for both seasons. Sometimes the only information available is what season the ~1 seed plant was grown. It may not be practical to grow a long-season strain from Hawaii in a temperate growing area, but a short season strain might do very well

[Burnatree]

Great Info Tropical just what i was looking for thanks again

[Guest]

Yall think this new storm is going to head this way...?

[Mr.Fish]

Finally found the FL thread! Hello everybody, hope this storm keeps going E. Can't take another insurance increase. Indica, your right about the power here. I just stick with T101 and reset, even though I'm takin a break at the moment. It's hell on the light though

[nukn futz]

hopefully that storm will come right through florida and destroy every home that assholes reside in, and only theirs.


hey a land clearing guy has to make money somehow :D

[Guest]

Finally found the FL thread! Hello everybody, hope this storm keeps going E. Can't take another insurance increase. Indica, your right about the power here. I just stick with T101 and reset, even though I'm takin a break at the moment. It's hell on the light though

I think its gonna pass us, unless it does some kind of loopy loop over the gulf :rasta: Im gonna stick with the digi timers for now, just because of the battery backup.


hopefully that storm will come right through florida and destroy every home that assholes reside in, and only theirs.

That would be nice, except 2/3 of the population here seems to be assholes... there would be nothing left :laughing:

[Mr.Fish]

Second that 2/3 assholes here for sure. Ready for a change, the heat si starting to get to me finally...been here many yrs and starting to think about change in seasons other than Hurricane season! nukn futz, there clearing to much land around me, startin to get cramped

[BoB91]

Hey I dont think I am an ---hole. :joint: :wave:

[Mr.Fish]

Don't mean here as in I C but here as in FL

[Mr.Fish]

:fsu: Can you believe this shit, news says that storm is 6days away and their already talking about raising the gas price here!

[Seven11]

whats up guys? this florida thread just wont die will it.I used to follow it back on OG and then became an advanced nutes forum member after OG got shut down and then AN got shut down too! Can i join your gang? do i have to be initiated?

[BlayzieDave]

yo whats up im a DIRRRRTY SOUTH GROWER =] Resign in the SWAMP :joint:
I saw this thread awhile ago i just never took the time nor really had time to check it out cause i saw how many pages there were but i see thats how u gangstas here at icmag work... u have the DEEP ass Threads... hahaha but for us floridians WE STAY MEDICATED... In a NoN MEDICATED STATE Biotchs. Got Nothin on us =]

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my moms imma be gettin clones off of.

[Tropical]

Hey,BlayzieDave.

Thanks for stopping by the thread and posting pics. Do you keep your moms outdoors? Don't they eventually bloom? I keep my mom indoors and put clones outdoors.

[BlayzieDave]

there both going to be outdoors the clones and the moms... :joint: idk much about much so ... :joint: :joint: and by bloom u mean bud right? ya there buddin now small amount but it's there.

[Tropical]

The longer the mom is in the blooming phase, the harder it is to get a cut from her to put out roots. After a month of so of blooming, I wouldn't even consider her a a potential donor anymore.

If you ever get a good female and want to preserve her to take clones repeatedly, you'll want to put her indoors where you can keep her in the vegatative growth stage forever by giving her at least 16 hours/day of light.

[BlayzieDave]

tropical umm give me more info man im trying to learn all this as quick as possible.. whats it look like my plants are doing?

[BoB91]

Hey thanks Mr. F :joint: :wave: ish but I do reside in the sunshine state. It seems a little mre breezy today but still damn hot!!!

[Tropical]

You can learn much more about vegatative growth vs. blooming in Cannabis plants by reading my lengthy posts on the subject on the previous page of this thread.

The short answer is that you can keep a plant in veg by giving it bright light for 16 hours per day. The sun is bright for about 12 hours per day now, so add some lights in the night time.

[Tropical]

BTW, the photos are too blurry to see if they are blooming. They at least don't look too far along to reveg.

[CannaBullies]

yo whats up im a DIRRRRTY SOUTH GROWER =] Resign in the SWAMP :joint:
I saw this thread awhile ago i just never took the time nor really had time to check it out cause i saw how many pages there were but i see thats how u gangstas here at icmag work... u have the DEEP ass Threads... hahaha but for us floridians WE STAY MEDICATED... In a NoN MEDICATED STATE Biotchs. Got Nothin on us =]

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my moms imma be gettin clones off of.

just curious as to what variety are those? swamp huh? thought the sand looked familiar...was just at gardeners edge last week...best of luck with the moms

[BlayzieDave]

they are either Northern lights X Haze... Ak47 or White widow im not sure. :joint: :joint:

[CannaBullies]

some Triangle Kush...grown in the swamp

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[Mr.Fish]

C B I can smell those buds from here! looks like my back yard :joint: :smoweed:

[motaco]

looks like she's going to pack on some trichs. but why such long internodes? was she in the shade or too much heat? or just natural growth?


several years back when most people still hadn't heard of diesel before we got seeded "headband" which is some sorta chem precursor strain to diesel. I think its original diesel or something. anyway we didn't know shit about the diesel family except that this headband was really weird smelling and was really stony.

anyway the long to short of the story is the headband knockoffs had a few phenos that grew like that. they were a real bitch. but the stone was good.

[CannaBullies]

she likes to stretch...temps in my room are 74 during the day and 65 at night...grown under a 1000 watter..few shots of others at 28 days

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[JollyGreen]

Wow! Nice F-ing plants Canna, what strain is it? Where Can I get it?

[CannaBullies]

it's called Triangle Kush...1 part lemon Thai and 2 parts kush..been clone only since 91 so nowhere to get seeds...thanks for the kind words guys

[Siddartha]

Man, wish I knew a guy who knew a guy that had a clone of that! Sugar-iffic!

[JollyGreen]

In miami your limited to the same ass bullshit, all the damn time. If its not Haze its Candy. If you smoke in miami your probably smoking Haze or Candy. Im tired of it of that s#*t, I want some F-ing Kush! :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

[CannaBullies]

depends on who you know in Miami....Alot of the grow op's in kendall are owned by the same guy...But I agree for the most part...not many strains to choose from and it's almost always never grown to maturity...glad I left

[extinctx11]

hey guys, i just found this thread. it dates back to 04! its going to take me a month to read.

[JollyGreen]

Its kind of hard to meet people in this hobby, I'm just glad I can come and talk to people with the same interest. But one day I will have the Kush! One Day I Say!

[Ayden116]

Hey Tropical....got a question for u...what time of the year do u stop growin outside?

[Siddartha]

I'm thinking about starting a little victory garden here soon. I think because of my space requirements, growing in a barrel seems like the way for me to go. I saw some person on another forum using this technique to make like 4+ oz of high-quality meds. Anyways, he/she used a 250w light and I was thinking about using two 150w lights in a cooltube-like setup. Basically, this whole deal would be surrounded by a scrog screen and that into a 55 gal barrel or drum for a tubular v-scrog. I'm gonna use a vortex 6" fan to cool it all. Any suggestions or ideas?

[CannaBullies]

why would you stop?

[Guest]

HELLO EVERYONE IM JUST CHECKING IN ON THIS FLORIDA THREAD. "954" IN THE HOUSE . I LOVE THIS SITE I USE TO BE ON OG FOR A WHILE TILL IN WENT DOWN BUT I FEEL REAL RIGHT AT HOME HERE

[nukn futz]

anybody down here ever order through seedbay? any issues? how long did it take to get your "package" you can answer with a pm if you so desire.

[gr0wmatic]

puffpuff :smoke: pass

[old fla stoner]

hey there just stopping in see if theres anyone else here in the o-town area. I have a closet grow, its about my fourth run now

[sophisto]

This thread is funny I used to live in Florida...West Palm Beach... I live in San Diego now and I never looked back.
I feel for you guys I never quite got used to the idea of living in a swamp. Nor did I get used to all the rednecks. the black and white thing there is also pretty freaking crazy. Krip was never all it was cracked out to be....Some good bud from time to time but there was not alot of love in the bud. It was mostly commersh and chemi. Went back recently and had some deliscious Mango, that was a treat.

Sorry I have some bad memories in Florida maybe they are tainting my judgement.....

[burn001down]

First-time grower in Pinellas County growing on state land. Just experimenting with some bag seed. Have three girls that are about 4ft high and 3ft wide although one is really stretched. Their not growing in the best of conditions. Soil is rather sandy and tall trees block the direct light later in the day. Second week of flowering and many bud sites are apparent. Been using Fox Farms nutes and just switched to Tiger Bloom with some Open Sesame for added "P". Hoping for maybe 3-4 ounces. Again, just an experiment to see what I need to do differently next grow season. Glad to be at ICMag. :joint:

[Guest]

BURN001DOWN,

HEY I USE TO HAVE A ROOM SET UP THERE IN HILLSBROUGH.

WHY DON'T YOU CUT SOME CLONES OFF THAT FOR THE NEXT RUN.

[gdawg]

yo just wanted to say whats up. movin to the 904 can't wait. you might see me ridin my beach cruiser up and down a1a and after ya pass you might smell the nl5xhaze, and then ya might say thats that dude man.

[CannaBullies]

or...You smell my TK and say screw it...lets put the crusier in the back of the truck and blaze..

[gdawg]

yo thats funny. i can't wait to be a chilled out floridian again. born in orange park but moved to the hills @the age of ten. traumatic for lil kid but i tuned my thumbs in now i movin back south bro peace




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[dagnabit]

sup ol friends.....


hows it been going? sry ive been gone for so long but all the drama spooked me the hurricaine did not help much either...

looks like i may be coming home to the sunnyshine state sooo all my old friends pm me!!!


:tup:

[Siddartha]

weebies, Dag!

[budchopper]

anybody down here ever order through seedbay? any issues? how long did it take to get your "package" you can answer with a pm if you so desire.
i know you would be pleased ordering from seed boutique the freebies are nice and they ship fast.

[asher1er]

i know you would be pleased ordering from seed boutique the freebies are nice and they ship fast.


im all for supporting sponsors and partners on this site but im open to all recommendations....

Who has had success and from what company with receiving seeds in Fl? SB will have my business soon as i want to order some "shit" and "ak47" from them but i am also looking for "chronic"

thanks for any inputs now back to :joint:

[Snootch]

Seedbay, seedboutique, dr chronic, and hemp depot are all great. I've never had an order confiscated by customs (knock on wood).

[extinctx11]

Has anyone in Florida ever been raided and lived to tell about it? Im as paranoid as they come, what happens to those whos doors get knocked down in Florida? It sucks to even have to ask, but I want to know the consequences actual people faced in real life, not just know the mandatory minimum sentances.

[EasyBakeIndica]

Has anyone in Florida ever been raided and lived to tell about it? Im as paranoid as they come, what happens to those whos doors get knocked down in Florida? It sucks to even have to ask, but I want to know the consequences actual people faced in real life, not just know the mandatory minimum sentances.

I've never been arrested, but while going to college in Florida, I met a handful of people who had been caught with plants.

Don't get caught with over 100 plants, or near a school/church. Those are two obstacles that your attorney won't be able to hurdle. Laws seem to be setup in favor of the smugglers over the growers. It's probably safer to get caught with 24 pounds than it is 26 plants. (25#'s and you hit a mandatory minimum, although your attorney should be able to find you some breathing room, assuming you weren't near a school/church.)

Most of the grower's I've met who were busted didn't do time, as long as they had no serious prior offenses. Usually you're looking at 12 month suspended sentence with lots of probation. Though you won't be in jail, you'll still lose a lot of freedom.

It seems like your biggest concern in Florida is from friends and neighbors: "If you go in there now, it's like a forest."' (http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20070925/NEWS/709250438)

peace
ebi

[gr0wmatic]

puffpuff :joint: pass :wave: :jump:

[asher1er]

Seedbay, seedboutique, dr chronic, and hemp depot are all great. I've never had an order confiscated by customs (knock on wood).


is it me or are the prices at hem depot ca way over priced? 200 for some kali mist from serious??

[dagnabit]

puffpuff :joint: pass :wave: :jump:


:bugger:

missed u man ;)

[EasyBakeIndica]

'Deputies were called to a house on West Forestwood Drive in Lakeland to investigate a report of a gunshot there. When no one answered the door they were about to make a forced entry, but just then the residents arrived and let them into the house, the sheriff's office said.

"Not only did the deputies not find a victim of a gunshot wound, but instead they discovered in the master bedroom of the home a sophisticated system for growing marijuana plants using stolen electricity," said sheriff's spokesperson Carrie Rodgers.'

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=64118


I think Florida has to be one of the scariest places in the United States, right now. Total police state. You guys stay safe. And don't make any loud noises.

ebi

[Siddartha]

Eh, not so much, that kinda thing could probably happen anywhere. The other busts have been scary though, scary enough to think twice about.

[Guest]

I used to grow in florida, two plants could have ruined my life in that state.

[evlme2]

Livin in central florida, im always watching my back. My shread of hope is that this is the worst crime area in florida so hopefully the pigs are too busy with more serious crimes than my 6 plants. :joint:

[GRT]

gdawg get at me when you move

im living in 904 also, florida is pretty cop crazy but depending how you do things theyll mess with you or they wont

[gr0wmatic]

:bugger:

missed u man ;)


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im just chilln -- doing my swamp thing --

speaking of which i must ready my self to do some swamping today --

puffpuff ~~ pass :rasta:
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[dagnabit]

Possession
20 g or less misdemeanor 1 year $1,000
More than 20 g felony 5 years $5,000
Sale or Cultivation
Delivery of 20 g or less misdemeanor 1 year $1,000
25 lbs or less felony 5 years $5,000
25 to 2,000 lbs (or 2,000 plants) felony 3 years MMS* $25,000
2,000 to 10,000 lbs (or 10,000 plants) felony 7 years MMS* $50,000
10,000 lbs (or 10,000 plants) or more felony 15 years MMS* $200,000
Within 1,000 feet of school, college, park or other specified areas felony 15 years $10,000
*Mandatory minimum sentence.
Miscellaneous (paraphernalia, license suspensions, drug tax stamps, etc...)
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Any conviction causes driver's license suspension for 6 months to 2 years.
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Possession of 20 grams or less of marijuana is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. Possession of greater than 20 grams of marijuana is a felony, punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000.

The delivery of 20 grams or less of marijuana for no consideration is a misdemeanor and is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. Sale, delivery or cultivation of any other amount up to 25 pounds is a felony and punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000.

Sale, delivery or cultivation of greater than 25 pounds is considered trafficking, and all trafficking offenses have mandatory minimum sentences. For less than 2,000 pounds or less than 2,000 plants, there is a mandatory minimum sentence of three years and a fine of $25,000. For less than 10,000 pounds or less than 10,000 plants there is a mandatory minimum sentence of seven years and a fine of $50,000. For 10,000 pounds or 10,000 plants or greater, the mandatory minimum sentence is 15 years in prison and a fine of $200,000.

Any sale or delivery occurring within 1,000 feet of a school, college, public park, public housing, daycare center, or church is punishable by up to 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000.

The possession of paraphernalia is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $1,000.

Conviction of a drug related offense also requires suspension of the offender's driver's license for at least six months but not longer than two years.


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welcome to florida......

be smart
keep yo mouf shut :teef:

[EasyBakeIndica]

Attorney general proposes Marijuana Grow House Eradication Act
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2007/oct/02/attorney-general-proposes-marijuana-grow-house-era/


By Will Greenlee (Contact)
Originally published 02:18 p.m., October 2, 2007

PORT ST. LUCIE — Attorney General Bill McCollum on Tuesday unveiled a proposal that targets marijuana grow houses, dozens of which were shut down last year and a few this year by local authorities.

The Marijuana Grow House Eradication Act also includes strong child protection measures, such as stepped up penalties for those with children present at a grow house and for those with drugs near children less than three.

Last year, law enforcement officials found pot grow houses in 41 of the state’s 67 counties, putting Florida behind only California in grow house numbers.

The legislation creates a new penalty for farmers who grow 25 or more plants. The legislative change targets growers who exploit the state’s current trafficking standards of 300 plants and the federal threshold of 100 plants to avoid prison time.

The measure also makes a new penalty for those who own a residence for cultivating marijuana, and a new penalty for people living in or serving as caretakers for marijuana grow houses.

The act is expected to be heard during the 2008 Legislative Session.

[dj digigrow]

evlme2 you in Crime Hills?

[Siddartha]

evlme2 you in Crime Hills?
roflmao, didn't know anyone else called it that, if we're thinkin the same area

[DarkCore]

If anyone didn't see the news tonight in Florida, they said over 4,000 plants have been seized this year, almost tripple last year :/

[motaco]

damn. 4000 plants ain't shit. that is like one of lous back yards

[DarkCore]

damn. 4000 plants ain't shit. that is like one of lous back yards

lolz, but still, kinda makes me scared to grow here...

[budchopper]

is it me or are the prices at hem depot ca way over priced? 200 for some kali mist from serious??

they are way over priced on some things.try peak seeds they deliver and have good products.ten beans for $30 not bad

[Guest]

lolz, but still, kinda makes me scared to grow here...

if you aint scared now wait till they revise the current MJ laws in florida..session starts march 4 2008

[budchopper]

Go Gators!!!

Go tebow- i hope gators beat kentucky-it would suck to loose 3
games in a row-

[tyler]

hey there, very random question. i'm a european looking for an apartment in north miami. can anyone recommend a good website to check out the offers? thanks in advance ;)

[Chamez]

Better advice than a website for an apt in miami- live in ft lauderdale instead.

[ganjadreams420]

Broward County here. I noticed on OG that there are many Florida growers, even though this state has some of the toughest cultivation laws in the nation. I personally think that it has much to do with the free spirited nature of us Floridians. I moved here in 1988, and have been here ever since. I absolutely love Florida, and any Floridian is a friend of mine.

Forfingoz

can't believe i missed this thread, but yeah i moved here a little while after you Forfingoz and I love the sunshine state.. never too cold and there are some beautiful women. anyone ever grow some plants year round here or have a couple harvests a year?
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couple plants i think will start flowering soon and give me some christmas presents! started late september. FL rocks!

[Guest]

evlme2 you in Crime Hills?
dime bags at cumberland farms...Powers rep!

[Chamez]

Someone a while back posted about the hydroponic growers convention in Florida, which got me interested and I finally looked it up. It is Sunday, November 11th from 12-5 at the Orlando Marriot. There are a couple Marriots in Orlando, and I dont remember the exact one, but it is like 2 miles from Disney, right off of I4 near exit 65-70. I believe they said $5 to get in.

[Guest]

CHAMEZ, HEY DUDE I THINK THAT MITE BE GOING ON IN THE CONVENTION CENTER ON INTERNATIONAL DRIVE . IF I AM WRONG LET ME NO I LIVE IN FT,LIQUORDALE SHIT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO MISS OUT ON THAT .

[Chamez]

Took this from their website and here is a link to it http://www.indoorgardenexpo.com/

Orlando Indoor Gardening Expo

2007 Indoor Gardening Expo Finishes Year In Sunny Orlando

After one of our most successful shows of all time, Maximum Yield’s Indoor Gardening Expo makes its final stop of the year at the breathtaking Orlando World Marriott. Combined with Crop King’s 24th Annual Growers Conference, this November promises to be an exciting one for the indoor gardening world. Orlando is the place to be and booth space is limited to first come first served.

We’ve seen a lot of new products this year and this is your final chance to see what 2007 has brought and what 2008 has in store. Exhibitors from the world's leading manufacturers and distributors showcasing the newest products and technologies for 2007 and beyond will be on hand. New product showcases, exciting door prizes, and industry socials are just a few highlights to look forward to in Orlando. If you’ve never been to an indoor gardening expo before, Orlando is the perfect place to start.

With space for around 120 booths, the Orlando Indoor Garden Expo promises to be just as electric as the San Francisco event. Please check the exhibitor information page regularly to see the entire list of companies who will be attending. The list is growing everyday, so check back often to know who is confirmed to be in attendance.

[evlme2]

dj digigrow, Im right off lee rd and I-4. Got some friends down by powers & 50.

On a diferent note, f u c kin 'bout time the weather cooled down :jump:
I can just about hear ballasts' firing up all over this bitch of a city!
Im looking to be burning some w'widow and some Hashberry 'round x-mas time. Got some in flower for a week or so and some moms ready to clone from. Should be happy holidays indeed!

2 Hashberry moms and 2 babies from seeds i found in a bag of some good dank.
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2 hashberry and 2 w'widow in flower. The Hashberry grows like mad!!!



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Hashberry on the left, 'widow to the right

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Random pics
Hashberry ready for a 5 gallon bucket

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My Hashberry harem

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Stay safe everybody, the duke boys are on the prowl...

[ImBackAgain]

The way it seems to go down in florida is neighbors telling on neighbors..

[evlme2]

So true :badday:

[PhillyPride]

Sorry to Bother your thread considering I am not from Florida but I have a quick question does anyone know the lineage/strain info on what the South Florida/Miami Crippy(Kryptonite) is, this is by far one of the best strains I have smoked in my life and am curious to its background

[oldgrayhair]

Could be anything really, krippy is just a name they stick on everything seedless here. Sometimes it rocks, sometimes ...not so much so.

OGH

[EasyBakeIndica]

'Krippy' is just another term for "chronic/kind bud/kill/headies". Most likely you were smoking some kind of Haze cross, because that's what Miami loves. Check out Mango Haze. It was huge for the past three years.

[Guest]

yep everything is called krippy in Miami...Most the time It's Northern lights...Term krippy has been around since the Mid 80's when the strain was around and very popular...Thats about all I know..

[JollyGreen]

yep everything is called krippy in Miami...Most the time It's Northern lights...Term krippy has been around since the Mid 80's when the strain was around and very popular...Thats about all I know..

Yes all hydro weed in miami is called crippy, I'm sorry greendevilherb but miami is know for all different kinds of Haze. Everyone has ****ing haze in miami. After awhile you get tired of smoking the same shit over and over.

[PhillyPride]

Not to offend anyone but this Crippy was no Haze cross or Mid. I am a true traveling Connoisseur. I had smoked about 15 different South Florida samples some were BS mid and some just decent dro's and others KB but this was completely different. The People I got this from Insisted that this was the Original Crippy and I had to believe him and to say I carried that oz around for 5 days and every smoker that I crossed paths with said "Now that is the MIAMI CRIPPY" and understand NO Haze influence I am a Haze Head and know my Hazes like I know my phone #, this Kryptonite (Crippy) was exclusive not some BS Kind Bud, Now a Super Northern Lights Hybrid I can Jive with that a bit more I did taste a little Northern Lights in her but a whole lot of something else indescribable maybe a heavy peppered celery if anyone can help me please do this is something I really want to figure out, and if you think I dont know my hazes please read some of my past post in other threads! Big Shout out to Florida Shyt Gainesville has some of the best growers on the East coast and has for years keep it green fellas an no disrespect to the previous answers to my question.

[Guest]

yes there are alot of haze crosses..thats all there is in SW fla..I grew in Miami for 17 years..Only a hand full of Big players down there...I'm sure now there are lots more in the game but 1 Person runs over 60 % of the grow houses in Kendall...All the grow ops I've been in had Northernlights #2 as the main show..Just my experience when I lived/grew there...I ran for the swamp and never looked back.