Ebb And Flowin For Tk

[mrwags]

Well here are some shots of the box's new digs. I went ebb and flow this time and also a first timer with Ready Grow Soil Mix. Currently 26 Days from seed. Have 4 Northern Lights x BB and 15 Skunk Special all from female seeds on seeds direct. Thus far is easy to see the NlxBB are kicking ass and can only hope all the others catch up. Running Using Pure blend Pro,Lq,and Cal Mag. Had them under a 125 watt floro from worms way for 2 weeks and recently moved under a 400 Hortilux Blue and will use the Hortilux Super hps en for flower. I'm currently at 500 ppm with ph at 6.0 water is heated to a steady 69 degrees with 4 12 air stone running from a four outlet big ass air pump in a 20 gallon res. I felt I over watered in the beginning but after talking to Mr. Meogi (TK) I now feel they might need a little more mag atleast the nlxbb due (wish I had a box Of those Instead) anyway I can tell a diffrence in using the ready in the node spacings,maybe it's the new bulb but they seem to be a lot tighter this time around therefore I'm gonna veg the shit out of these little bitches and clone me some tops so I won't haft to wait so damn long this round to get going. I encountered a bad spider mite problem last time around and all mommies were lost a summers worth of work gone due to lack of experience. But oh well live and learn. Here's The New Digs:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102EBB_and_Flowin_For_TK-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102EBB_and_Flowin_For_TK.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102direct_humidity-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102direct_humidity.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Little_girls_2_-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Little_girls_2_.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102New_and_Improved_2_-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102New_and_Improved_2_.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/210225_days_from_seed-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/210225_days_from_seed.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Morph_2-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Morph_2.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Through_This_Door-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Through_This_Door.JPG)




A Real quick shout out to Gypsy for his help in selecting the beans sog is what were after and then BOB (Box Of Bud)


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Looks like you have things under control wags. Nice Job! Looks like ya got some skills!

[Guest]

Nice mrwags... i'm about to run a similar setup for the first time with some LSD clones. PBP... cal-mag...silica blast... liquid karma... hydroplex.

tag me in on this one...

[fallenangel]

hey there mr. wags,
very cool setup! im pulling up a chair . i to have been asking zen master tk questions abought his setup . i want to do a flood and drain sea of green ...so im very interested in your grow.. im sending positive energy your way!!!!

[Guest]

Killer setup Waggs, now that's the way to committ

Ventilation and temp are your enemy so keep an eye on it.

Good growin man and the gentics you have should be quite tasty

Healthy lookin plants and don't loose any sleep over the little bottom leaves at the very bottom yellowing a little. Nice node spacing on the pic.

Tex

[mrwags]

Tk thats the thing With this sealed box I can control the temps. I have inside the larger box a digital heater. I keep that baby at 63 degrees (it's freakin 16 degrees outside now) and my little grow box stays at 76-78 degrees it's a beautiful thing man and with the humidifier shooting right into the air intake I can control the humidity as well. I can take either one, temp or humidity and put it where I want and inside each box is a wireless temp and humidity meters I keep by the bed it even has an alarm to wake me up if anything goes out of wack(technology is our friend). And the dual fan above the door is digital to. I can have one blow in and one out or vice versa and set the thermostat on that as well. In your earlier posts I've read a hundred times you said as long as you can control these two things the rest should come much easier.Time Will Tell. Is ph at 6.0 ok and also my res temp is at 69 is this correct because as I said I can control Res temp heat and humidity. Also I included some pics of the aerocloner upgrade those are 9 360 spinners instead of 1 (stock form) Now If I could only clone one of your thumbs I'd be set.


Mr.Wags
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Cool_Air-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Cool_Air.JPG)

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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Aero_upgrade-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Aero_upgrade.JPG)
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[Guest]

Nice job man,

Tex

[mrwags]

To everyone a big thanks. I still have not returned to the office yet. It's been 4 months now reading and reading and reading for the day I turned it loose. But would'nt you know I now feel a need for some of those damn buckets. Those things look so cool and I've seen the trees they produce first hand. I figured I get this one going and maybe build a new garage in the spring. Could not be as far as I gotten without you guys. I've been planting my own for about 15 years now. But I must say walking out by the river and throwing down some seeds and coming back a few months later to see what happened does not make you a grower. Seeing what you guys can do made me realize that. It's just like when I sold Crotch Rockets (motorcycles) in Florida, $10,000 does not buy talent I used to tell them. It only buys the tools. Hope I can give something back this time.


Mr.Wags

[mrwags]

Well we have gotten a foot and a half of snow. I'm snowed in to say the least it's a nice -5 outside but atleast I got a 77 degree tropic zone to go to and see. I'll get some new pics up later.

Mr.Wags

[GreatLakes THC]

...it's a nice -5 outside but atleast I got a 77 degree tropic zone to go to and see.

That's just how I feel. Cold here too, but it's nice in my room. I've got my head under the lamps so much that I might start getting a tan. I've even thought about bringing in a recliner and TV.

GreatLakes THC

[mrwags]

Well been away for a few days to try to go where their is no freakin snow. Thats right Vegas Baby. Spent New Years at the top of the new Hilton on the strip and staggered (a big winner by the way) home to find the girls are trying their little hearts to become something. Man I must say the hortilux blue bulbs rock. the spacings are tighter and make these little bitches squat down and spread. I'm gonna top some about the middle of next week to use the new cloner and just wanted to post a quick update,and hope everybody had a good 1st.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102weeds_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102weeds_2_.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102growin_5_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102growin_5_2_.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102growin_4_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102growin_4_2_.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102growin_2_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102growin_2_2_.jpg)




And yes TK thus far I'm loving the Ready Grow and my first try at ebb and flow.
Oh and GreatLakes I feel your pain but I heard it was around the 60's this weekend around are parts. At least the damn snow is almost gone. For now anyway thanks for stopping by.

Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Lookin great man,

Ready Gro, no fuss, no muss. I did cut my water cycles back to three, two during lights on and one in the middle of lights off. I am thinking of going to just one long cycle at the beginning of the lights on cycle

Keep up the great work

To the victor go the spoils

Tex

[mrwags]

Well I was gonna say something to you about that. The early yellowing was infact overwatering. At the point I'm at now I flood once a day at lights on. I've got a rapidtest meter but have gone to the pot lifting method to see when they were light. a few weeks ago I was watering once every 2 days with no ill effects and no more yellowing. But as I told you in our pm's I did move from the cups to the pots way way to early for some and paid the price of some slow ass veg time compared to the ones I firmly rooted before the move to the pots. Live to Learn and Learn to Live I always say. Just don't make the same mistake twice!


Mr.Wags

[Teresa]

Nice and healthy looking mrwags :wave: .Doing a wonderfull job :wink: .


P.S. I thank you for the sweet pm :smile: .

[mrwags]

WOW words from the tree lady. That means alot to me Teresa ty. How's your redwoods doing. Maybe in 10-20 more years I can become a weed whisperer like TK the man does'nt even use a ph pen just lets the girls talk to him and tell them what they want,I wanna learn that. You guys and gals do make it kinda like grow by numbers monkey see monkey do. You just gotta read and read some more. And by the way Teresa that pm was well deserving my dear.


Mr.Wags

[fallenangel]

looking real good wags

[BigToke]

Just had to stop in and say what a very well looking growroom you have there, good job man.

[mrwags]

Those kind words coming from you guys well lets just say I'm blushing. But Big Toke I got a hard on to try out some of those beautiful looking bucket setups you make us drool over. I'll get a little more time under my belt and well see. Because as TK knows new years in Vegas was very very good to me. (This Time Anyway)


Mr.Wags

[mrwags]

I'm going to be topping a few of the girls tomorrow and putting in an aerocloner. This will be my first time using this machine and was wondering if the group would have any tips. The girls are nlXbb and skunk specials from female seeds on seeds direct. The bb have grown to about twice the size of the skunk and was hopeing to maybe try to top and even them out but read cloning bb was a bitch. Any suggestions are appreciated in advance.


Mr.Wags

[mrwags]

Well so far so good. The I have found the nlxbb to be very easy to grow gonna wait a little longer before I flip if they get a little to tall I do what Tex says and treatem like little bitches and get out the rope :whip:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1116_2_-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1116_2_.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1108_2_-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1108_2_.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1114_2_-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1114_2_.JPG)


Took 10 clones off the bb and see if I could get beginners luck tap water ph at 6.0 got a 2 foot air hose running off a dual air pump twisted around the pump water temps at 85 and using Green Fuse per Tex'es Advice. 2 1/2 days no roots yet but still holding green.


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1119_2_-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1119_2_.JPG)


Oh and Tex Have not used the ph pen for 3 weeks now only to set up cloner just doing a lot of sitting and watching, a lot less worry K.I.S.S


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Great job Waggs, You'll start to see little white bumps on the stems in a few days. Once you see those little noduls it's only 24 hours away from shootin roots out and they go quick after that.

You may want to cut you misters cycles to on for an hour or so and then off for a couple of hours. It seems to make the roots stretch out faster and more vigorous.

Take a rope to the unruley biatches

tex

[mrwags]

Tex How often do you change your cloner solution? I've eveything from every day (I don't think so) to every week. Just curious. Don't know if you have seen this yet but: Biotanicare has a new Ready Grow Mix:


There are two unique formulas to choose from: READYGRO AERATION FORMULA™ AND READYGRO MOISTURE FORMULA™. The AERATION FORMULA is specifically designed for 4-6 waterings daily and the MOISTURE FORMULA™ is designed for 1 watering daily. Both are ideal for container gardens, self-watering pots and planters, and hydrogardens. They are perfect for growing fruits, vegetables, houseplants, orchids, cacti and succulents. I know you have the link but for those that don't:

http://www.americanagritech.com/product/product_detail.asp?ID=15&pro_id_pk=35

Mr.Wags

[Guest]

I don't change my cloner solution at all. I have roots in 10-12 days and then I go to the cups or strait into a 5.25" pot to go on the flood table. Maybe I will next time and see if it makes a difference.

I use the Ready Gro now almost exclusively, it rocks and you just toss it at the end. I do put a layer of hydrotron or lava rocks in the bottom and the the Ready Gro. I can transplant 20-25 plants in like 25 minutes and I have been able to cut the water cycles in haf compared to strait hydrotron.

Tex

[mrwags]

Well I waited as long as I could but some where just not up to the challenge. But a note to myself says if you want 20 good in flower prepare 25 good in veg and 30 in the seeds. But never again. Here are some quick shots of the end result of veg have used no ph pens for over a month now and Tex go ahead and laugh :biglaugh: they have never looked better:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102first_day_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102first_day_2_.jpg)

NLxBB



http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102first1_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102first1_2_.jpg)

Special Skunk


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102first_2_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102first_2_2_.jpg)


The Group

Will be starting the co2 3 times a day now looking forward to any and all comments. Gotta take the good with the bad so let me have it.


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Ma..Make the plant..... be...be the plant

Plant whisperer

Tex

[mrwags]

Well thought it was time for a quick update:


NLxBB:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1105-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1105.JPG)


Special Skunk:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1111-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1111.JPG)


Thank you all for the good Karma I have proof and here it is:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1116-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_1116.JPG)

On my first try, Tears came to my eyes when I looked for the first time and saw this :eek: Made me think of the story about teaching a man to fish. All are in their 6 th of 12/12 and growing like weeds. Hope you all like. Good Karma back in buckets full to all.



Mr.Wags

[Guest]

It is pretty badass isn't it

Beginning of life

Tex

[mrwags]

Here are some updates life is good so far but will start 12/12 at 8-10 inches next time once the co2 started everything went kinda crazy:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102the_group_at_20-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102the_group_at_20.jpg)


NlxBB:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/210220th_day-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/210220th_day.jpg)


Special Skunk:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102skunk_20th_day_2_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102skunk_20th_day_2_2_.jpg)

Hope they stop growing and start spreading but like I said well just get out the rope from under my bed,oops I mean the hall closet.


Mr.Wags

[mrwags]

I'm trying out a new ready grow plug system called Float and Grow:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Float_And_Grow-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Float_And_Grow.jpg)

Instead of putting in the existing tray I got a rubbermaid tub and lined the outside with duck tape to block out the light I haven't found anything in threads regarding this thing so I'll be the guinea pig on this one. I also put in 2 12 inch airstones beneath the floatey and a heater to keep it at 75 degrees at 6.4 ph
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102The_Tub-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102The_Tub.jpg)

The one thing I see so far that I like is oxygen a lot of it:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Love_The_Air-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Love_The_Air.jpg)

I know this will help but as before time will tell will be running 15 NlXBB 5 White Rino's (thanks for the tip HOG) and 5 cinderella 99's. I also have 6 nice NLXbb clones in waiting if any thing goes south:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Learning_To_Fish-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Learning_To_Fish.jpg)

Once these girls started to get new growth they turned out to be beautiful and will keep some of these for Mommies. Tex thanks again for teaching me to clone. They look so much better and heartier than they did from seed. Oh and here is a shot of the Special Skunk at 24 Days I'm getting better with my camera and hope everybody likes what they see.



http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk.JPG)

The NlXBB has at least 30 days to go and is already getting a little frosty.


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/210220th-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/210220th.jpg)


Thanks for any suggestions and or comments.


Mr.Wags

[mrwags]

Using it for seeds HOG got an aerocloner for clones copied Tex right down to the Green Fuse. Those babies you see popping had been in there for 12 hours. I go from the soak (till I see tails) to the rapid rooters. I read in Heads that Soma Does the same thing except he uses the little Peet Pots. I like rapid rooters better and so far so good well see.


Mr.Wags

[sunnyside]

the nlxbb looks nice mrwags...here's where they pack it on!!

[Guest]

Good show Waggs

Your hittin it like an old pro

Keep up the great work

Tex

[mrwags]

Ah shucks Tex that was nice. Is kinda easy to do once you learn from some of the best growers in the world.


Mr.Wags

[tokinjoe]

Damn nice job Wags. I got some NL x BB for outdoors this year. Ima hang around and see how yer ladies turn out if you don't mind...Peace. :canabis:

[mrwags]

Hell tokinjoe we be all family around these parts. I'm still a little green around the edges but have spent the last 6 months behind my monitor to try to get a handle on this indoor hydro thing. Pull up a chair and enjoy the show.


Mr.Wags

[mrwags]

Well here we are at day 36 of 12/12 and all is going so well. Here's a few shots of the girks and have included 3 golden kush's to the mix to fill some runt hole's.

Special Skunk: These cola's are going to be at least 20 inches long


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102day36-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102day36.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk_Day_36-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk_Day_36.jpg)


NlXBB: I only got 3 of these but have six 12 inch tall mommies for some good clones.


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102nl_at_36-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102nl_at_36.jpg)




And last but not least The Awsome freebie Golden Skush's:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102skush_day_36-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102skush_day_36.jpg)


If the kush smokes as mean as it looks I'm gonna grow a lot of these beauty's in the future.


I bet these baby's are really going to bulk up during the final flush in a couple of weeks.


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Mr. Wags... very nice buds man... you're going to LOVE that golden skush. I got free beans and bought some as well.

Nice work!

[Organic Hydro]

Hey mrwags ,
those flowers are looking sweet !
are you growing in a Quickgrow "Quickie" ?

http://www.quickgrow.ca

[mrwags]

Hey mrwags ,
those flowers are looking sweet !
are you growing in a Quickgrow "Quickie" ?

http://www.quickgrow.ca


It is the Quick Grow's Black Box. Summer temp are this products undoing hence the modifications. Without the mods temps in the box easily reach 100+ degrees but have them under control now. Maistre thank you for stopping by feel this overall harvest will be something to brag about. But I guess only time will tell.


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Hey bud, I almost lost this thread. Signin in officially to keep track. Good luck, bro! I'll be watchin :wave: :friends:

[mrwags]

Well folks here is a quick update of my quest to make TK proud. Hope everyone likes what they see!
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0019-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0019.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0018-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0018.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Group_Shot-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Group_Shot.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0015-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0015.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102For_your_approval-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102For_your_approval.jpg)

I scoped a few this evening and all trics are CLEAR, there still growing but will say next round I will flip to 12/12 much much sooner. More pics when the time is needed. And yes Tex co2 does help even a black thumb like me. :friends:


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Lookin very nice my brutha.

Be patient, they will start to fattin up so much more and get oh so sticky.

Nice colas man, your pretty much ready to take the training wheels off and go for a full table run.hehe

Ya done this ol water farmer proud

Keep up the passion for the plant, they sense it, they feel the love.

Tex

ps. be patient, I saw you reachin for your scissors.lol let them get ripe

[mrwags]

8 weeks my ass TK these trics are clear as hell and patience is my friend I will say tho I took the cover off 2 days ago and could tell my girls were in pain (my gut) had to dig up the ph meter and dust it off and found my ph level to be at 4.9 oh damn I said did a rez change and well as they say a picture is worth a thousand words no harm no foul. Scissors you say well yes I did take a little taste of of the lower level and damn TEX it was nice but as you have taught me go by the trics NOT BY THE TIME. I bet these girl's got atleast 3 more weeks in them. But I must ask If I'm able to get at least a pound (on my own) out of a 400 watt bulb do I still have to call myself a newbie?


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Since we don't have a formal cap and gown ceremony.lol

"I pass to the a cob pipe to signify your advancment to the next level"

Green thumb up and comer in the wings

Watch'm fattin up now though. Pretty much as a rule of thumb I add two weeks to the printed flower times. Maybe 8 weeks from the time they showd sex. That's from seed plants also, clones can shave a week or so off the time.

Clones would do real nice in your setup

Tex

[mrwags]

Well to prove I take your teachings to heart Tex I present first my six mommies under a 125 watt floro:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102clones_nl-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102clones_nl.jpg)


And 20 clones in the cloner getting ready for the next run:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0009-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_0009.JPG)


Oh yes Tex great minds do think a like. You taught me well,and I listened. TY


Mr.Wags

[Organic Hydro]

Hey mrwags,

are you " flameproof " on OG ?

if not , someone just swiped your pic's

Here's a link

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery.php?s=&action=folder&galsort=date&userid=734136


just thought i'd ask & see what you think .


Peace

[mrwags]

Yes thats me. I started there last year hence the name,got tired of getting flammed for asking questions to try and learn. Got hooked up here through HOG'S post on a certain person's clone site and have been here ever since. Thanks for looking out for me guess you can see why I call ICM home.


Mr.Wags

[Organic Hydro]

that's cool MW , i went to check my PM's and stopped in the photo's gallery area and saw your pic's that i was just looking at here, and thought i should ask you .

Glad it's you , people do swipe pic's over there , i even found some of my grow report for mazar on a website slinging seeds in the U.K. so i thought i'd check with you about the pic's just to play it safe .

Have a good one

oh yeah , nice nugs , how tall is the inside of "the black box" ?


Peace

[mrwags]

The inside is 3 foot vegged to long this time so had to tie'em down a little. Gonna do some buckets this spring and will use this box for veg then move to buckets if all goes well. Thanks for the reply's. Got 17 girls in there now it's full.


Mr.Wags

[sunnyside]

:smile: mrwags you have done great!!! awesome grow my friend :) good things do happen to good people :smile:

[Organic Hydro]

WOW mrwags , i would never have thought that a black box could hold that many plants , what do you think the yield is gonna be ? should be close to a lb, no ?

O H

[mrwags]

Last time was between 1-2 ounces per plant. The co2 really really works in such a small area. As you well know the Black Box in stock form is only a 10 site drip setup. I came here last June and saw Texas Kids ebb and flow grows and saw the light I guess you could say.It has taken me close to a year and many many trial and errors to get this far. If Gus could see what I have done to his product he would more than likely shit his pants. He said that over seas guys are getting 3 pounds per run with this thing but those systems are running on 220 and use twin 400's . If I could get at least an 1 1/2 oz per I would be happy. But time will tell.


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Wags
Man nice thread. Awesome looking Frickin budz. Ok i read thru all pages, But did not see what size inside the box. Or i was that high, to not see it. Also did you make it or buy the box? man this thread will come in handy for me. thanx wags, Also hats off to texas kid aka (TK).. :chin: Good teacher obviously, You definately know your shite. Ill be looking for more of TK's threads. As well as yours wags keep on growing and good luck. Anyways congrats again Wags awesome.. peace

sack :friends: :canabis: :joint:

[Sleepy]

Nice job, Wags!!!

You are certainly not a newb!!! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Wonderful tutoring, TK...Ilove this place!!! :friends:

VERY ADMIRABLE EVERYONE.!!

[wikidcalibudgrl]

hey there mrwags!
Just chimin in to say hey ! and i got that same little cloner,,,how it workin for ya? never used mine yet!

~Wikid

[Guest]

Just WOW!

Everything is looking top notch Mr. Wags... a pound from a 400??? HOLY SHIT! I'm pulling for you.

That CO2 kicks things into overdrive, huh? How do you provide the CO2? I think CO2 is in my future... BUT... I don't want to go the tank route and the CO2 generators are just a bit outside my current grow budget... -dreamz-

Your next round is looking good... can you go into some detail on your moms? Feed, etc.... is this ebb & flow as well? details Details DETAILS... They are looking fabulous.!

[mrwags]

Patience,Patience,Patience Here we are at day 58 of 12/12 and we are still growing. So I thought I'd get some updates posted and see what the group thought. All trics are still attatched and clear a scope is valuable at this point and will more than likely run the last batch of nutes (been in for 7 days) till Wednesday to a Flora Kleen flush and then use straight ph adjusted r/o water till I get some ambers and then 24 dark,cut,trim,and throw in my climate controlled dryer.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102NLxBB_Day_58-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102NLxBB_Day_58.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk_s_Love_The_L ight-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk_s_Love_The_L ight.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Golden_Kush_Day_57-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Golden_Kush_Day_57.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Getting_Close-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Getting_Close.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_58-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_58.jpg)



Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Very nice buds Waggs

It won't be long now

Tex

[Guest]

Mr. Wags... well done my friend... those buds are out of control!

You make this ebb & flow stuff look easy.

I hope my buds grow up to be just like yours!

[Guest]

Wow, I see what you mean when you say 'bud tumor.' They are lookin pretty healthy, regardless. I can definatly learn something from you.
They packed on very nice. When do you plan on choppin?

[mrwags]

Well group it is FINALLY final flush time. A wise man from Texas taught me patience is a virtue not a waste of time. Got 2 cases of mason jars cleaned and ready and cannot wait to post a group shot of all the girls befoe the chop after 48 hours of darkness. as you can see frosty the snow man has been shitting all over my girls,I just love that guy. Here are some pics:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk1-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Special_Skunk1.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Happy_Girls-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Happy_Girls.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Frosty-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Frosty.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102And_This_Was_Free-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102And_This_Was_Free.jpg)


All is well, the aber trics have started so it looks to be about 4-6 from now until darkness. Hope you like.


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Awesome Waggs, Your on the path to nirvana I tell ya

They really frost up good in the dark.

Are you using anything to flush or just water?

It's all you man!

Tex

[mrwags]

I did a one hour flush of Floro Kleen and then went to straight ph'd water. I'm not there yet TK but I'm learning. When it gets warm enough to work out in the garage I'm planning another veg room and will convert the existing room into BUCKET NIRVANA! Oh yes the growing bug has bitten me BAD! It is a 8x5 room so I feel 12 buckets under 2 600 air-cooled hoods should do nicely. But when that times comes as always I will have questions on the construction and pm's will be flying your way. I went 20 for 20 on the last clone run so I guess you taught me well. So now I can yank them big girls out cut'em up put them in the dryer clean BOB and go right back to flowering. Just like you showed me to. You the man TEX you the man. Only this time I got back up so this way I know BOB will stay completely full the next run.


Mr.Wags

[Sleepy]

Damn, Wags!!!

Good job, BOB!!!

Can't wait for the smoke report... :joint: :canabis: :joint:

[Guest]

Is the little bugger hangin yet?

Tex

[mrwags]

Tonight is the first of 2 in total darkness. I waited as you advised to wait until trics were at least 70-80 % amber. Tex I stoled a little bud off the bottom put in in a bud grinder and let it air dry. I did 2 bongs at 3 still high at 10:30 thanks for making me wait:) Will get some updates posted once they come out of darkness looking all frosty.


Mr.Wags

[sunnyside]

:headbange: doin the happy dance for mrwags

[mrwags]

Well it is finally here,but enough with the bs here's the fruits of are labor,

The Group:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_001.jpg)

The Free Golden Kush:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_004_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_004_.jpg)


Special Skunk:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_008-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_008.jpg)


All Hail The God's Of Weed:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_012_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_012_2_.jpg)


Fat Buggers To:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_009-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_009.jpg)


Cola's:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_020_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_020_2_.jpg)


For Size Reference 1 Qt size Pure Blend:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_023-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_023.jpg)

48 Hours Was Spot On Tex:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_024-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_024.jpg)


Now Into The Carboned and Humidity Controlled Dryer:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_025-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_025.jpg)


Will post final numbers once ready for the jar,but I must say I could not fit everything in my dryer :biglaugh: So some will go straight to jars but I think we hit our goal. I'll smoke a fat one for all those involved but right now I gotta go move my next run into BOB little bastard's hungry again gotta keep him happy. :friends:


Mr.Wags

[Bonzo]

Excellent Mr.Wags :friends: peace, Bonzo :smile:

[Sleepy]

damn, Wags!!! good to see you had success!!!

enjoy your harvest!!! :eek: :canabis: :eek:

[Guest]

Oooooohright! Man, what an awsome yield Wags! Those are some huge nugs. Good job, bro

[Guest]

Very very nice, now a suspect you are addicted to growing.hehe It happened for all of here at one time or another. Actually smoking and enjoying the fruits of your labor and love is one of the most rewarding things I can think of, whether it's by yourself or with friends.

Don't tell anybody you grew it, just say you have a connect or access to it. It's hard not to get excited and tell the world look at this wonderful thing I grew, but they will take you down with the quickness.

Excellent work man, I love it when a plan comes together.

Tex

[mrwags]

Me me and only me Tex. Rule # 1 trust no one rule # 2 see rule # 1,That's why I got you folks. Thank you Tex.


Mr.Wags

[gift of gab]

Very very nice, now a suspect you are addicted to growing.hehe It happened for all of here at one time or another. Actually smoking and enjoying the fruits of your labor and love is one of the most rewarding things I can think of, whether it's by yourself or with friends.

Don't tell anybody you grew it, just say you have a connect or access to it. It's hard not to get excited and tell the world look at this wonderful thing I grew, but they will take you down with the quickness.

Excellent work man, I love it when a plan comes together.

Tex

To true, I know Im hooked :canabis: For me, there is nothing better than smoking out some friends, and having them tell you your bud is the best shit theyve ever smoked hands down. Its nice to have connections :biglaugh:

Wags holy shit man thats a nice harvest. Those are some fat buds.

[traysure]

Amazing....that just took my breath away.

WOW
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[sunnyside]

the special skunk looks amazing mrwags!!! Big thumbs up :wave:

[Harry Gypsna]

I second what HOG said MR Wags , could you elaborate on that dryer please fella??
That Skunk special looks great...I have wanted to try that ever since I started looking through the seed catalogues before I started my grow this time last year, it looks like the "Skunk" we used to get when I was a kid, I used to score off of a little Dread in mosely Birmingham, ...he had this code for peole to score there...when u got to the building where his flat was, you pressed his buzzer, and had to do a special secret knock on the reciever of the buzzer, lol.... I used to think that was sooo cool then when I was 14, LOL
Anyway, nice going.....those black boxes look pretty cool..I could knock something similar up for a relative of mine who has given up the booze after battling for all his adult life, and wants to start growing as all that is avalible round here is shitty soap bar! (Except when I pass a spliff to sum1...lol) anyway, all the colours in that special....I dunno why, but(and your gonna think this is wierd) but the colours I see in it in ever pic I see of it done well, it pts me in mind of tutti-frutti ice cream, hahaha, Prolly just beacause of the quite light coloyur, with all the flecks in it....heheh. i told you it waswierd, hahaha.
Anyway Wags, bloody nice one my friend, it looks great!

[mrwags]

Ok I knew the dryer would get some attention. This little baby is fat let me tell ya. Here are some shot after 2 days drying:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_004-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_004.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_005-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_005.jpg)

Plus it's a nice decoration piece:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_001.jpg)

Now the thing is this thing is gonna be easy to copy,the brains of it all that keeps everything controlled is here:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_002.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_025-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102done_025.jpg)

The box itself is very simple but once these are dry I'll take this puppy apart get some model numbers and some names off the unit do a google search and will post where and how to get and make one yourself. I spent 250.00 with the box as a set. I bet were gonna make it for around 100.00. it's simple to do we just gotta get the right parts.

Well I fed BOB:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_007.jpg)


Beautiful NlxBB Clones some ak-47 and c99.

Gotta get warm soon so broke out the getto tube:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_008-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Day_One_008.jpg)


Will start a new thread for the new grow and post the info on how to get a dryer box built. Happy Easter Everybody. :friends:


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Good show Waggs


Happy Easter

Tex

[Okie grown]

I hop i do as well in my new table.Great work!!
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2074DSC02038-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2074DSC02038.JPG)

[Guest]

I have been following your progress on the table Okie and it look great. Like everything it got me a thinkin about how I needed one of those setups to play with.lol

Very nice and the bounty will be wonderful

Tex

[Harry Gypsna]

Likewise TEx....lol.
OOOOOOOOh Tex, I just remembered(Sorry wags, but If i dont say now I will forget, lol) remember those cage thingies, that we both said we might like........well, Heath Robinson(the guy with the Assface Avatar, hehehe) has donbe a DIY one at OG, I saw it last noght......I almost shit a solid gold brick, hahahaha check it out mate if you havent seen it already, it AWSOME...i think anyway, lol....and u know what, he didnt bother taking pics of the constructuion at the time bevcause get this , he didnt think any1 would be interested,......yes u heard that right......, its great man.....
sorry fr the outrageous Hijack Mr
Wags, but I would av forgot, lol. 2 days outta the dryer u say and it looks like that already.....
Okie, hglad to see the table come along.....Im just about ready to get this........
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/18572005_0208Image0002-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/18572005_0208Image0002.JPG)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/18572005_0208Image0003-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/18572005_0208Image0003.JPG)
.......going finally, ive only had it like 2 months, lol.....Just gotta let these clones....
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/18572005_0326Image0027-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/18572005_0326Image0027.JPG)... ....root systems get a bit more developed before I put em in! Knocking a little aero thingy together to develop the roots a bit....not really a cloner as theyre rooted in those plugs and ill be cloning that way for now as its simple, but more of a pre-grower...if u get me. U seen that pic 420 showed of those roots in that plug before going in hiscoli??? well, I need something that will do that for me!
I cant do afull run with the Df this time round as I only have 15 clones, and it takes 21 to fill it SOG style, 3 rows of 7....so these will have some breathing room, 3 rows of 5 instead....when u do it with the 7 per row, the pots are all touching completely ram-jammed, lol. so ill prolly have to train a bit to fill the space???.
anyway, just dropping in
Be lucky every1

[mauiwowie]

Looking nice Mr.wags

Good to know that the SS takes a little longer than it says on the tin. Im currently 5 1/2 weeks into 12/12 with the Skunk special and Just looking at them tells me they are going to need at least another 3 to 4 weeks. All the hairs are still white and the buds haven't started to fill out properly yet. Loads of crystals all over the place already though.

Have you had a smoke test yet? Any info on the high? Is it an upper or a couchlock skunk?

As for the guy asking about the smell, it smells real sweet and fruity at 5 1/2 weeks 12/12

[Guest]

About four days since chop, how's the drying process coming along? Are they in jars yet?

[mrwags]

Sorry guys but I think were gonna come up just a tad short of our goal. Will jar tomorrow and give a final weight and pre smoke report. Were gonna be close I just don't know how close (stems be a snappin tomorrow) I think I can I think I can.


Mr.Wags

[sunnyside]

WTF WAGS???

[sunnyside]

lol...WTF are you apologizing to us for? You did a great job...and whatever the yeild is, WE DON'T CARE!!! We are just happy you made it to the end with no problems ;) enjoy your harvest!!!

[Guest]

Yup, you did a great job-400 watts and almost a pound is truly impressive. From the looks of things it really looks like you'd get very little under a pound if not right on the nose.

[mrwags]

435.8 was the total not what I truely wanted but hey who gonna bitch about being 12.2 g's short of an elbow? Well I am! :mad: But I must say it is very fine tasting smoke:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Bob_Did_Well-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Bob_Did_Well.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102In_The_Jar-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102In_The_Jar.jpg)


The Northen Light x BB is less tasty than the Special Skunk but the damn buzz last forever but the skunks flavor is like sweet warm cream on a winter morning. But damn if I say that Gypsy's Freebie Golden Skush is an ass kicker. I got 1 1/2 oz off of 2 plants in a jar for safe keeping until at least September from what I've read it should be really good by then.

A lot of people were helped with this grow and they as well as myself want to thank everyone involved in it's teachings I've shared everything from this grow with those I know needed it and will continue to do so in the future I have even managed to get a few involved in our hobby (sharin the love man) :friends: for most of them need it a hell of a lot more than I do. I'm very reclusive with my hobby and mainly only share here as far as anybody around me knows I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy, so thanks for letting this corporate america old scholl hippie hang out and learn the craft.

Next Threads gonna be fun take a look:


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Next_Round-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102Next_Round.jpg)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102It_s_Gonna_Be_Fun-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102It_s_Gonna_Be_Fun.jpg)


I promised Tex when he started his school for me last year I would never make the same mistake twice, WE WILL have at least a pound of tasty bud for July 4th Weekend. Sharin The Love


Mr.Wags

[Guest]

13 grams short of an elbow, better turn that frown upside down my friend, That is stellar results for your first run on the tables.

Great work Waggs, that should be enough to get through to the next harvest.hehe.

You can move your tassle to the other side of your cap and smoke the traditional cob pipe in recognition of your accomplishment here today. The photo grow journal is your thesis so to say and you pass with flying colors.

Enjoy the fruits

Tex

[xxoshz25xx]

Enjoy MRWAGS!

time+Labor=REWARD

So enjoy your smoke and looking forward for your next grow!!!

[frostyy420]

Nice thread. Did a great job for your first run with E&F :) Going to be setting up my first E&F tables in the next week or so. Been doing a bunch of reading :)

Dont mean to hi-jack but does any one how many times I should be flooding when using General Hydroponics 4"x4"x4" Cocotek AB cubes? I do have some bud blanket I've been thinking about trying out this run. Maybe some on one tray and none on the other. See if theres a difference?

Also wondering how many of you use a gradient slope with E&F?

[mrwags]

Wow now here is a blast from the past! Frosty welcome,the flood cycles will all very depending on YOUR room. Witht he ebb and flow idea it is much easier to do a large number of pots but I do sometimes miss being able to give them a little tlc. I flooded twice a day with these pots for 30 minutes and 3 times a day in flower for 30 as well. now i use Biotanicares Ready Grow Soil mix so that was a lot different than the hydro balls that I flooded 4 times a day for 30 minutes throught he entire cycle. Check the weight of your pots BEFORE ya water and get a feel for what the weight is once they are fully watered and remember that cycle so that when they dry out you know how close you are to getting a happy cycle for YOUR setup.


Mr.Wags

[frostyy420]

Thanks for the info mrwags. I'll just keep checking how wet the coco cubes are and once I find them starting to feel dry. I'll set timer :) Was hoping some one would have a set schedule for me :) New to hydro :woohoo: