Advanced Nutrients

[Mr.Blue]

Advanced Nutrients is a new release here in europe and iam interested now because i read some years ago in a cannabis magazine about this fertilizers and now i would like to know about your experience with this fertilizers and which minimum of products you would recommend me?
or if you know a grow in which are compared the fertilizers would be great.
I want to grow hydro bubbler or coco.
for answers i thank you very much

Mr.Blue

[WildFire.ca]

For bloom I would use the sensi 2 part with carb load, big bud, and H1 (humic acid) to start.

[Guest]

me if in soil and for peat iguana juice bigbud and overdrive..............everyth ing else like b-52 you could use old cheesy super thrive and ............i prefer carbload but if your broke molassis for carbs........................b ut hydro 2part.+bigbud+ overdrive :spank:

[house]

I'm curious about AN recipies too, the nutrient calculator on their site assumes you have their entire line. What should I supplement the 3-part with?

[gromer]

If your looking for comparisons side by side go to youtube and type in nutrient challenge in the search youll find what your looking for.AN rules,Iguana juice like Immort said,stuff is awesome.Use on soil or in coco and youll be happy.If your in hydro Id try the 3 part or somthing else thats inorganic from them.

[Father Jack]

I like their Big Bud and Over Drive...but I use other companies basic nutes.

Jack

[gamehaze]

doesnt big bud kill the beneficial microbes in your living soil

[YaRdApE]

doesnt big bud kill the beneficial microbes in your living soil

Nope, but toxic salt buildup will :YaRight:

[ubet28]

I use advance i have seen a noticeable difference in growth. I do not use all of there products or nor do i follow there feeding calculator as i think that there calculator is a useless piece of shit. If you go to youtube.com and search advance nutrients you can watch some vids on the product some of it is marketing hype so make you own opinion on it.

ALSO GET READY TO TAKE OUT ASECOND MORGAE ON THE HOUSE CAUSE YOU WILL NEED THE EXTRA MONEY TO BUY THERE PRODUCTS. I AM NOT 100% SURE ON THIS BUT A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE HAS A GROW SHOP AND HE SAID THAT ADVANCE WAS RAISEING PRICES 25% IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

[gromer]

That whole Advanced is more expensive than other nute brands is TOTAL GARBAGE.Nutrients are free.Which would you rather pay for electricity and nutrients or outrageous prices for herb and hash.I dunno bout you but I use the entire line foliars and all and I think my price pr oz at the end of the day is like 30 bucks and thats totalling all overhead electricity equiptment the works.

Man Im tellin ya if I hear one more person complain about havin to buy nutes.Nutes are free!!!Theyre free people.Just think about how much you save not what you spend.Sure I could do a grow start to finish with nothin but a bag of bat guano and a cheapo bottle of seaweed but would I get half the quality and yield I get now?Hell no!!Plus really comparitively look at some of the Bio Bizz line or House and garden there is stuff that cost just as much as the products on the AN line yet I never hear one person complain about their stuff being pricey.I swear peeps must just be mad cus they want it and cant afford it.
Three words ......Discount Advanced Nutrients.Cheapest place to get em there is,trust me I know.You get freebies with every purchase too and there is no charge for ship and trust me again nowadays free shipping on nutes is gonna save you hundreds if you order bulk like me.Shipping went up sooo much cus of gas prices its nuts.That and the rise on the Canadian dollar was the reason for ANs price increase.Which was around 30% total but only some 15-17% will be felt by us.I didnt really get that one but thats how its working the total wholesale price went up X amount but the total retail price is only going up a portion of that.See what Im sayin.Anyhow they could want blood in exchange for the stuff and it would still totally be worth it.Since the forum closing Ive done alot of shopping around for different companies stuff and about 75% of the products I got were bad right off the shelf not even usable,you get what you pay for.AN if stored properly is a quality product thatll keep forever.This is all my humble opinion and not to say there arent cheaper nutes on the market that also work well.I just am tired of peeps scarin peeps away from getting Advanced nutes cus they think they cost too much cus that is total hogwash.Now let the Gromer slamming begin.......Peace,Gromerr Pott!!!

[house]

My only problem with AN is all the additives they make you think you need, just look at their recommended feeding schedule. The basic formula is supplemented with dozens of bizzare additives, many with little benefit to the grow if any all made to suck as much money possible out of sick patients trying to grow. Yeah I know that is how business works but I still don't like it, it's deceptive and preying on the uninformed.

[ubet28]

That whole Advanced is more expensive than other nute brands is TOTAL GARBAGE.Nutrients are free.Which would you rather pay for electricity and nutrients or outrageous prices for herb and hash.I dunno bout you but I use the entire line foliars and all and I think my price pr oz at the end of the day is like 30 bucks and thats totalling all overhead electricity equiptment the works.

Man I'm telling ya if I hear one more person complain about havin to buy nutes.Nutes are free!!!Theyre free people.Just think about how much you save not what you spend.Sure I could do a grow start to finish with nothin but a bag of bat guano and a cheapo bottle of seaweed but would I get half the quality and yield I get now?Hell no!!Plus really comparitively look at some of the Bio Bizz line or House and garden there is stuff that cost just as much as the products on the AN line yet I never hear one person complain about their stuff being pricey.I swear peeps must just be mad cus they want it and cant afford it.
Three words ......Discount Advanced Nutrients.Cheapest place to get em there is,trust me I know.You get freebies with every purchase too and there is no charge for ship and trust me again nowadays free shipping on nutes is gonna save you hundreds if you order bulk like me.Shipping went up sooo much cus of gas prices its nuts.That and the rise on the Canadian dollar was the reason for ANs price increase.Which was around 30% total but only some 15-17% will be felt by us.I didnt really get that one but thats how its working the total wholesale price went up X amount but the total retail price is only going up a portion of that.See what Im sayin.Anyhow they could want blood in exchange for the stuff and it would still totally be worth it.Since the forum closing Ive done alot of shopping around for different companies stuff and about 75% of the products I got were bad right off the shelf not even usable,you get what you pay for.AN if stored properly is a quality product thatll keep forever.This is all my humble opinion and not to say there arent cheaper nutes on the market that also work well.I just am tired of peeps scarin peeps away from getting Advanced nutes cus they think they cost too much cus that is total hogwash.Now let the Gromer slamming begin.......Peace,Gromerr Pott!!!

What are you spokesperson for advance. I never once bashed advance if you would of read the first sentence states i use advance. If you say there not expensive then that's GARBAGE. Cause they are but you are right you get what you pay for no doubt at least as far as i can see besides the crazy swings in pH that i have still yet to figure out. So if you have any pointers on this i would greatly appreciate hearing them. I use sensi 2 part organic b, bud blood, sensi cal, big bud, overdrive, carbo load, final flush.

Here is a link to u tube video listen to what she has to say 50% MARKUP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89IBkpURAW8

[gromer]

Yeh I read the whole post.Yeh you use em even more reason that you shouldnt be complaining about the price.When you do that you scare other peeps away and they will then never get to experience the killer results we get.See my point?

Buhahahahaha!!Thats a great one an Advanced spokesperson.Nope hardly just somone who has spent ALOT of money on different nute brands and tried basically everyone of the major labels on the market and got the best results with AN.Finally getting 2+ a light even with 600s and even with organics.AND the nutes are always in good shape when I get em no messed up bottles or nutes that have fallen out of suspension.
PH swings are very common with AN the very reason alotta peeps dont like to use em.To be perfectly honest if I was growing hydro Id use somthing else,the GH three part or Botainicare.Lots less trouble with these products and the end product is a close call to that grown with AN.Well this is gonna happen no matter what you do especially if its RO water cus the reverse osmosis process strips the water of all its resistance to ph swings.But I have found that if you can get your final ph a little low on purpose first and then add a little Barricade to go back up the BC seems to make the solution bulletproof PH wise.After its adjusted with the Barricade I have a hard time getting it to move even using more up or down.Seems to move a little like over a week or more it may creep up a little but for the most part it stays in range alot better.This was just my findings and experience but lately Ive been mixin as needed for this very reason.Its a total bitch constantly mixin 70 liter rezs but I have better results and no problems with Ph going all wacky.But for somone in like an nft of flood and drain this would be impossible so.Who knows give it a try maybe itll work for you too.Either that or mixin in some low ppm tap water with the ro water first to give the water itself a little stability without having too high a ppm.Hope some of this helps you.Peace,Gromerr Pott!!!

[WTF-over]

What are you spokesperson for advance. I never once bashed advance if you would of read the first sentence states i use advance. If you say there not expensive then that's GARBAGE. Cause they are but you are right you get what you pay for no doubt at least as far as i can see besides the crazy swings in pH that i have still yet to figure out. So if you have any pointers on this i would greatly appreciate hearing them. I use sensi 2 part organic b, bud blood, sensi cal, big bud, overdrive, carbo load, final flush.

Here is a link to u tube video listen to what she has to say 50% MARKUP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89IBkpURAW8

Word on the street in Vancouver/Abbottsford is AN is in receivership. Wakeup and smell the cannabis....bud....Just a little humour!? You may want to grab as much of what you need now from retailer stock.

When they fired the support crew they also fired the production staff. My hobby store guy told me he can't get his orders filled. When he called, the rep laughed and said it was hit or miss on all the products. He said there was no stock, no production, and non expected.

So just to be sure I took a little drive and sure enough no action at any of their buildings in Abbotsford. Can't be totally sure but it seems to be more than a rumour. :fsu:

[WildFire.ca]

Here is a link to u tube video listen to what she has to say 50% MARKUP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89IBkpURAW8


All stores add a 50-100% mark up, its economics 101, its how all stores make money, and it's normally about 100%.

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[ubet28]

Word on the street in Vancouver/Abbottsford is AN is in receivership. Wakeup and smell the cannabis....bud....Just a little humour!? You may want to grab as much of what you need now from retailer stock.

When they fired the support crew they also fired the production staff. My hobby store guy told me he can't get his orders filled. When he called, the rep laughed and said it was hit or miss on all the products. He said there was no stock, no production, and non expected.

So just to be sure I took a little drive and sure enough no action at any of their buildings in Abbotsford. Can't be totally sure but it seems to be more than a rumour. :fsu:

I called several people about this and is exactly what you say it is a rumor.

[WTF-over]

I called several people about this and is exactly what you say it is a rumor.

So why would my Hobby Store guy have a problem getting his stock ordered filled? I've known this guy for years...he is a no BS sort of person...with no reason to lie about his conversation AN sales.
I hope what you are saying is true, some of their product is good, it would be a shame to see it go south. But this is not the only place I have heard this.
:smile:

[namo420]

they DID just release coneseur and there doing great,some shops have just been getting A.N. nutes in...so who knows...time will tell.but hopefully there here to stay.

[D0nC0smic]

nutes are nutes and if you know what you are doing regular unbranded organic nutes will yield just as much as expensive overhyped stuff

[sirharrynuggz]

I'd like to try them out, but www.advancednutrientsmedical.c a and www.advancednutrientsdirect.co m are both shut down now. Is www.advancednutrients.com gonna go next? I hope not. Most shops here in Oregon don't carry them, so I'll have to order them when I do pick them up. Was all set to order from an-direct, then it went all "404".

[wreckMEplease]

hhey sir harry nugs, do you have a norther lights garden supply near you...they are up in Portland and carry all AN stuff

[sirharrynuggz]

Actually, I do. And their website has all the AN gear listed, but I called them a few days ago, and all they carry is the Mother Earth Tea and Iguana Juice. The other products can't be sold in Oregon anymore, over some labeling bullsh*t. They have a store in Grants Pass, Salem, and Vancouver as far as I know.

[ubet28]

Hey sirharry i sent you a pm with a number of grow shop that carries all the an stuff and he did not up the price on the the products like everyone else did you should give him a call he will set you up with every thing you need. Just tell him jay told you call. THANKS JAY

[sirharrynuggz]

Where is this guy based? Does he have an actual physical store?

[ubet28]

Yes he has a store and i deal with him on every thing i buy. I would rather not post in here where he is located since i do shop there and i really don't want everyone that reads this post knowing were he is located. If you really want more info you should just give him a call if you need his number again just ask and i will pm it to you. If you are really wanting to try AN he will treat you right all that you need to do is tell him jay told you call. I already talked to him about shipping and he said that would be no problem.

[toohighmf]

AN paid their taxes and production or delivery never stopped. the Distributors merged and they have been trying to get their shit together asap. conny is flying off the shelves faster than Sensi A&B. I have noticed sales slumping on voodoo and some of the higher ticket items like b-52 and sensizym. however, big bud/overdrive, carboload and the ig juice line fly off the shelves. when looking at nutrients, you must calculate the volume to concentration levels by measuring tds by the ml to find the ppm. If some of the AN haters out there saw the concentrations vs. volume on over half their products you would realize that most of their stuff is actually cheaper by concentrate, meaning what might take you 4 liters of pro silicate, may use less than 1 liter of barricade. Big bud is expensive because there really wasnt a product like it. voodoo does some pretty amazing things to the rhizosphere. I know there are products that people just use better than others. if you are doing great w just the lucas formula, I suggest you stick w it. for about $30 US dollars cheaper, you can buy AN's micro and bloom(which are the same NPK as GH flora series) in 2.5 gallon sizes.

Of Course AN wants you to think that you need everything to grow 2+... thats why they call it the 2+ formula. the calc is a total peice of doodoo as previously mentioned. ALL nute mfgs tell you to use twice to 3 times whats feasable. why? so you use it up and buy more.. quickly. AN also had a high yield kit. containing 3 part, big bud, voodoo and carbo. this package for a medium feed 25 gallon 8 week res would cost about $175 US. is that murder? I think its pretty reasonable. I use conny, bigbud, barricade, overdrive, liquid karma, cal mag, hydroguard and h2o2. my res isnt cheap, but when growing cup winning quality I dont have a problem spending the extra dough. if I didnt get it for free, I would be on the lucas formula w big bud, karma, barricade and OD w plenty of h202.

[ubet28]

AN paid their taxes and production or delivery never stopped. the Distributors merged and they have been trying to get their shit together asap. conny is flying off the shelves faster than Sensi A&B. I have noticed sales slumping on voodoo and some of the higher ticket items like b-52 and sensizym. however, big bud/overdrive, carboload and the ig juice line fly off the shelves. when looking at nutrients, you must calculate the volume to concentration levels by measuring tds by the ml to find the ppm. If some of the AN haters out there saw the concentrations vs. volume on over half their products you would realize that most of their stuff is actually cheaper by concentrate, meaning what might take you 4 liters of pro silicate, may use less than 1 liter of barricade. Big bud is expensive because there really wasnt a product like it. voodoo does some pretty amazing things to the rhizosphere. I know there are products that people just use better than others. if you are doing great w just the lucas formula, I suggest you stick w it. for about $30 US dollars cheaper, you can buy AN's micro and bloom(which are the same NPK as GH flora series) in 2.5 gallon sizes.

Of Course AN wants you to think that you need everything to grow 2+... thats why they call it the 2+ formula. the calc is a total peice of doodoo as previously mentioned. ALL nute mfgs tell you to use twice to 3 times whats feasable. why? so you use it up and buy more.. quickly. AN also had a high yield kit. containing 3 part, big bud, voodoo and carbo. this package for a medium feed 25 gallon 8 week res would cost about $175 US. is that murder? I think its pretty reasonable. I use conny, bigbud, barricade, overdrive, liquid karma, cal mag, hydroguard and h2o2. my res isnt cheap, but when growing cup winning quality I dont have a problem spending the extra dough. if I didnt get it for free, I would be on the lucas formula w big bud, karma, barricade and OD w plenty of h202.

I totally agree with you. If you use AN you might pay more initially but in the long run it will be cheaper for the base nutes then for GH at least. With better results from what i have seen so far.

[Guest]

If you use AN you might pay more initially but in the long run it will be cheaper for the base nutes then for GH at least. With better results from what i have seen so far.

correct! Best results Ive ever head, i wont use any other nutes now.

[Ah Tzul]

i switched from Botanicare to AN and haven't looked back. i am currently using the FULL organic line(including CBB and Emerald Shaman). At full strength or by what the calc reccomends, = highER priced. I do use the calcs, but i also have 3 different rez's to maintain. I use Iguana at full(or almost) strength, medium feeding. The rest of the line I use at about one-quarter strength. I get what I need without capitalism interfering. I do use CBB & ES at full stregth for foliar.

I would have to disagree on the additives being useless junk. If u r in soil maybe, but i am orghydo in coco. the additives are just what is normally found in healthy soil.

listen to gromer

[High Jinks]

listen to gromer
:yeahthats toohigh also knows. I use 2part, overdrive, carboload, and am working through a FREE 5 gallon tub of big bud.

[StinkyStubb]

After reading this thread and taking gromers advice on visiting DAN, I think I might give the "Bigger Buds Kit" and the "Fuzzy Root Recipe" packages a go using the "Sensi 2 Part" as my base and also probably throwing in some Carboload and Superthrive for good measure. Much cheaper than the full 2+ line and I wonder if the missing items would really make much of a difference.


StinkyStubb

[ubet28]

OK well its been awhile since i have been inhere and have moved on to a new product. I switched over to dutch master products and they are even better then advanced and cheaper to this nute company rocks. Don't get me wrong i still use one advanced product and that is the one and only sweet leaf no ones sweet can com pare in my opinion. Just to let you all no advance does stand buy there 100% satisfaction guarantee As i returned around 850.00 in nutrients i got in store credit and it took like a month and a half to get that but i got it.

[Sensibowl]

So how are the Dutch Master products working as compared to your past experience? I’ve never used those and I’m curious to know if I should give them a whirl, just for fun. I’m totally happy with AN, but it never hurts to test out other brands too.



Always have a full bowl

[dominicangreen]

my first time useing advanced nutrients and so far feeling good about it here is my grow
new grow room 36 silver haze (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=137873)

their first big dose of BLOOM nutrients @ 1.7 EC and ph 6.3
here are all the products

ADVANCED NUTRIENTS

SENSI BLOOM A
SENSI BLOOM B
CARBO LOAD
BUD BLOOD
BUD CANDY
F1 (FULVIC ACID)
H2 (HUMIC ACID)
HAMMERHEAD PK 9/18
MOTHER EARTH TEA BLOOM
SENSI ZYM
TARANTULA
VOODOO JUICE
PIRANHA
SCORPION

will be adding to the mix next feed

WET BETTY

BIG BUD POWDER but cant add together with hammerhead 9-18 @ full strength its almost the same. use each @ 50% of recommented dose when used together
or use one in one feed then the other next feed like i plan to do so

B-52
hopefuly got all nutts covered , lol

[BigForest]

looks good poppy im gonna do the same with the conni as soon as the checks clear :)

[Outportgrower]

OK well its been awhile since i have been inhere and have moved on to a new product. I switched over to dutch master products and they are even better then advanced and cheaper to this nute company rocks. Don't get me wrong i still use one advanced product and that is the one and only sweet leaf no ones sweet can com pare in my opinion. Just to let you all no advance does stand buy there 100% satisfaction guarantee As i returned around 850.00 in nutrients i got in store credit and it took like a month and a half to get that but i got it.

Man I would have gone for my cash back, but happy to see you obtain a refund though.

[dominicangreen]

OK well its been awhile since i have been inhere and have moved on to a new product. I switched over to dutch master products and they are even better then advanced and cheaper to this nute company rocks. Don't get me wrong i still use one advanced product and that is the one and only sweet leaf no ones sweet can com pare in my opinion. Just to let you all no advance does stand buy there 100% satisfaction guarantee As i returned around 850.00 in nutrients i got in store credit and it took like a month and a half to get that but i got it.

this sounds like bullshit and you still useing advaned nutrients sounds like you wanted some spending cash but did'nt think it would take that long and it was'nt cash refund lol
you got store credit so what you bought more nutts at the same company?
some time people dont make sense bro
where is the glory in this story ,store credit
he's still buying same product for those who are slow minded

[HydroManiac]

An are really good. I have tested their big-bud side by side with plants I used it with and those I didn't and it does pay to use it the difference was noticable. It is true also that their products are very concentrated and last a long time. The same can be said for dutch master nutes. I lot's of times will buy which ever one is on sale if one is actually ever on sale. Botinacare isn't bad either.

[Sea_of_Green]

this sounds like bullshit and you still useing advaned nutrients sounds like you wanted some spending cash but did'nt think it would take that long and it was'nt cash refund lol
you got store credit so what you bought more nutts at the same company?
some time people dont make sense bro
where is the glory in this story ,store credit
he's still buying same product for those who are slow minded


I have to question whether this grower actually used Advanced Nutrients correctly. Once you get dialed into the program, it's really, really easy. I mean, if I can do it, anyone can.

The Advanced Nutrients calculator is what helped me.

Great, now I sound like a commercial...oh well. It works for me and if you want great harvests and high quality canna, AN is the real deal - IMHO.

:2cents:

[dominicangreen]

I have to question whether this grower actually used Advanced Nutrients correctly. Once you get dialed into the program, it's really, really easy. I mean, if I can do it, anyone can.

The Advanced Nutrients calculator is what helped me.

Great, now I sound like a commercial...oh well. It works for me and if you want great harvests and high quality canna, AN is the real deal - IMHO.

:2cents:

here is my grow useing advanced nutrients -the thread speaks for its self-
sea of green we need to say no more
this is advanced nutrients what it does my first time useing it and i'm pleased never saw growth like this bro check the post here new grow room 36 silver haze (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=137873)

[Sea_of_Green]

here is my grow useing advanced nutrients -the thread speaks for its self-
sea of green we need to say no more
this is advanced nutrients what it does my first time useing it and i'm pleased never saw growth like this bro check the post here new grow room 36 silver haze (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=137873)


Thanks man. I'll totally go check out that post right now.

:woohoo:

[Proteus]

AN is moving to europe becuase all thier snake oily salesmen techniques have failed here in north america. (advertisement and marketing is all they are)


good luck with those scum suckers.

[WildFire.ca]

I call BS Proteus, Y would they move. Lets see a reference. Have you tried there gear, its just NPK just like the rest of the company's.

CouchLock Cafe

[Sea_of_Green]

AN is moving to europe becuase all thier snake oily salesmen techniques have failed here in north america. (advertisement and marketing is all they are)


good luck with those scum suckers.


Seriously? Where did you hear that? My hydro guys haven't said a word to me...that would really bum me out if it were true.

Let me know!!!

:yoinks:

[Sea_of_Green]

Seriously? Where did you hear that? My hydro guys haven't said a word to me...that would really bum me out if it were true.

Let me know!!!

:yoinks:


No one's heard anything more about this? I talked to a few friends of mine who seem to be in the know and I'm not really hearing anything about the AN company picking up and moving.

One friend said that they have some testing facilities in Europe, but that they're still going strong in Canada.

Too bad we can't have more verification about this one. Anyone know anything more? Or is this just a rumor that got started and it's just a load of BS?

:joint:

[Outportgrower]

AN is overpriced plain and simple. Lots of others at 1/8 the cost that do just as well or better out there. People need to look at NPK numbers for a change rather then the pretty picture on the bottles.

Save the cash for papers, not spend it on nutrients. I grow as big as those with AN product for $20 to $30 a grow. Try that with AN products. See how much you can obtain for $30.00 then try to run a complete grow with it.

I will stick with the cheap stuff and out grow AN users any day.

[house]

AN works fine but no better than any other basic nutrient. I choose to avoid them because of their deceptive marketing practices and ludicrous claims they make about their additives.

[worldwideclones]

AN of course works , yes it works . Better then the rest is up in the air . But I agree that AN advertising makes my stomach sick . The two brothers story is sooo funny !
for the money and the line I prefer GH .