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clowntown
05-31-2007, 05:36 PM
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-=TGG=-
05-31-2007, 05:51 PM
Hot Shot No-Pest strips are not safe in close quarters..

B.C.
05-31-2007, 06:20 PM
Yeah man that's purdy tight quarters fer a no pest strip.Although I really don't think it would hurt ya,better safe than sorry,eh? Since ya have nothin in flower,you could get a bottle of Sevin from Wally-world.Sevin works very well,and it's cheap.Jus a thought my friend.Good luck,take care...BC

Guest
05-31-2007, 06:28 PM
Hey there Clowntown; I have read about the Hot Shot pest strips, and used them.. I dont like the chemical they use (i forgot the name), but i figure it is better than spraying the plants directly with a harsh chemical.
I normaly dont use any anti bug chemicals on my plants.. if i had bugs, i would just move the infected plants out of the room, and then spray the rest of the plants down heavy with SM-90 or some other maintenance spray. The thought of me or my loved ones smoking toxic chemicals is beyond me..
What i do with the pest strips is this: I keep one in my Veg/mother area all the time. I keep another one in my Bloom area only for the first 4-6 weeks of bloom, then i take them down and put them in baggies until i need them again...
Also, i think the hot shots only work for flying bugs,, but i'm not 100% sure on that.. but i know for sure that they dont stop spider mites.... best of luck, be well. peace.

Cannabismavin,

Neuronaut
05-31-2007, 07:21 PM
They don't work on fungus nats either, but definitely killed some other bugs in my room. It says on the package not to use in close quarters.

Blunted22
05-31-2007, 07:37 PM
Hey man it sounds like you have mites get rid of them now before they become a prob.

No pest strips are the best for that they are the only thing ive found to wipe them out completley and for good.


They are not good in close quarters, but if you leave on in for a week or two with good ventalation and keep aniamals away you should be ok while killing the mites.

Maj.PotHead
05-31-2007, 07:37 PM
yes CT them should work your only usen it 2-3 wks max then place it back into ziploc bag for next use. them hotshot pest strips kill every bug in the cab last sumemr i had very very bad spidermite problem used it 3 wks and no more mites. had soil gnats used it again in conjunction with 2inch perlite on soil surface killed them also in 2-3wks last fall and again eailier this spring. i know i read an artical around here on 1 of the main active ingredents, its registered as a mustard gas ingredent. and thats why it kills all bugs in the grow flyn crawln whatever, you'll want this in there 2-3wks as to kill any hatchlings. the minumal exposure your gettn is nothing but over yr's i'm sure can and will build up, but thats the thing we dont use them yr's on end only when needed and few wks at a time max. i like to hang the strip at the height of where the problem is mites towards plants tops gnats towards plants soil. my cabs ventilation is very strong

Guest
05-31-2007, 07:45 PM
imo experience the hotshots kill mites over night. my rooms are small, 4ft ceilin, i dont live in um, but i can say when i first put them in, i try and stay away from the rooms, as ive noticed a strong smell from um, and that cant be good.

there chemical nasties for sure, if your OP is a box, id turn off any blowers exitin the box, and place um in there in the mornin when ya leave, put um in there bag and then in a baggie over night/when home, and repeat next day. will work just as good.

CBF

stretchpup
05-31-2007, 09:48 PM
hotshots no pest strips did nothing for my last bought of mites. they laughed at them.

maybe I got the mites on a clone from someone's growroom where mites have already built up a tolerance?

garden safe spray and the 3in1 eradicator (fungi, disease, mites.. or whatever 3) have removed them from my garden thus far.

I still keep the strip hanging anyway though.

clowntown
05-31-2007, 10:00 PM
Where is your HydroHut located, stretchpup?

stretchpup
05-31-2007, 10:04 PM
My spare bedroom in the apartment. Its completely sealed off, sealed windows, window AC unit, and dedicated. I run a clone, mom, veg, and flower tent in the same room.

Doing searches for mites I found an old post by BOG, suggesting this 3in1 product at depot. Worked great and my rooms are clean of bugs.

Neptune
05-31-2007, 11:39 PM
I would not use a Hot-Shot in a place where mamals spend any amount of time over 5 minutes. I have used them in my bedroom before with my mothers, I closed the door and slept in another room for 2-3 days, then removed the hot-shot, bagged it up, and stored it in the garage. I repeated this again 3-4 days later to get any mites I missed.

for gants, use mosquito dunks. they are non-toxic, bio killers similar to hydrogaurd. 100% Safe.

clowntown
06-01-2007, 01:03 AM
You have a HydroHut for your mothers, right Neptune? I assume you hung the No Pest inside the HH? What type of ventilation did you have in the HH?

I'm wondering if maybe I could do something like... hang the No Pest strip at around plant level, and reroute the ducting so that the air exits out of the window instead of straight into my studio. The intended goal would be to take advantage of the negative pressure in my HH (from a 6" Vortex running at lowest speed) to eliminate most or all fumes/vapors that are coming from the strips. Or do you need to turn off the ventilation and allow the vapors to sit around a while longer?

Neptune
06-01-2007, 03:33 AM
you need the strip to "marinate" with your mites... so, no ventilation! ..and seal it up good. I have no active ventilation in my mother hydrohut mini (3x3). The strips work very good, but neeming all incoming clones, and all newly rooted cloes is the very best way. I prepare a dunk basically, using 20% neem 80% water, mix well and dunk all clones that have roots... before planting.

clowntown
06-01-2007, 03:43 AM
If I don't yet have an infestation, only a POTENTIAL for a THREAT for an infestation, would neem via foliar on existing plants be an effective solution? Don't the mites need a plant host to feed on, to survive and reproduce and continue the life cycle? Meaning that if I foliar only the plants for a while, then the mites should have no home and eventually go "exinct" in my garden? (Assuming that they're mites, and they're in my room.)

What I mean by potential is... those bugs may or may not have been spidermites... and they (or their eggs) may or may not have jumped off... and the few, if any, may or may not be able to survive the trip to the flower tent...

I understand neem oil is a fairly safe product, so I'm going to assume that it gives off no harmful vapors, etc?

As for the incoming clone thing, yeah... that's a good default policy to apply to your garden, just incase! But next time, before the dunking or any of that, I'm going to inspect with a loupe first... and if it has any real critters, I'm not even going to bother since I don't think there's ANY genetics that would be worth risking my entire garden for.

Another valuable lesson learned, the hard way...

Thanks to everyone for the help! :yes: And my apologies to those of you on chat last night! :bat:

clowntown
06-01-2007, 04:34 AM
For those of you who have used neem oil:

What brand(s) have you used, and did you find it effective?

Maj.PotHead
06-01-2007, 08:01 AM
dyna grow pure neem oil http://www.nationalgardenwholesale.co m/detail.php?id=04_PC&prod=1586 neem oil is really a superub preventitive last fall i placed 3 clones outside below a infested oleander bush not 1 mite or any other type of critter bothered my plantsafter treating them and placen outside :)
neem oil why it works http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4485


but when pesky critters are allready established http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3045HotShotNoPestStrip.jpg
here's 2 older threads for your reading pleasure http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=16322&page=1&pp=15
:)

clowntown
06-01-2007, 08:38 AM
You rooooooool!! :headbange

skin
07-12-2007, 02:52 AM
great info maj pothead , thanks

The Dopest
07-12-2007, 04:26 AM
I.M. Boggled suggest the proper strength to be about 5ml per qt of water. thats less than an ounce of neem per gallon.

Neptune reccomends using about 20% neem, that would be equivalent to about 25 ounces of neem per gallon.