Hydroguard Info

[Guest]

HYDROGUARD™
Bio-fungicide Water Treatment Solution

HYDROGUARD™ is a bio-fungicide water treatment that helps suppress and resist damping off diseases. HYDROGUARD ™ is an all-natural biological stimulant that assists in the management of disease cycles. Unlike the use of fungicides alone, the use of HYDROGUARD ™ breaks the chronic disease cycle while leaving no toxic residues. HYDROGUARD ™ is also useful throughout a plants life in hydrogardens such as NFT or Aeroponics. HYDROGUARD ™ is a phenomenal product which will strengthen your clones ’roots and offer your new plants the best chance of survival when transplanted. The product composition consists of: Bacillus subtilis, Paenibacillus polymxa, Bacillus circulans, and Bacillus amyloliquefaciens. The guaranteed analysis is:CFU/Gram 1.7E x10 6 . A free sample of HYDROGUARD ™ is now available in American Agritech’s Clone and Aero Machines.

[Guest]

Texas
Would by any chance this ward off that green algae in hydro?

sack

[badmf]

Block your lite source and algae will die.

[Guest]

I am a very firm believer in HydroGuard, but also never change my res til flush. When flush time comes there is not much green algae, and my res does have some light leaks. So it might help, but badmf is truely correct. Kill the light and the algae will follow.

[flipmastermike]

HYdrogaurd helps alot with damping off and damping off is not always caused by light. Mostly by overwatering and other factors. Hydrogaurd can also help dwc users who have higher rez temps. Its cheaper then buying a aquarium chiller.
I had a plant get root rot in one of my buckets a while ago. Thank god it turned out to be a male. But anyway everyone was telling me my water temps were to high.
A friend gave me some hydrogaurd and said to try it. I have not had any problems since.

[Guest]

I've got a gallon of it on hand... used it with the DWC... SM-90 is also very good for root health.

What kind of res temps are you running Mikey?

[flipmastermike]

I've got a gallon of it on hand... used it with the DWC... SM-90 is also very good for root health.

What kind of res temps are you running Mikey?

Hey Maistre, I am not exactly sure of my temps. And I am sure they will get worse in the summer time. But I did throw a cheap aquarium therm. In my buckets for a few days and I think I remember them getting up to 78deg. or so.
So far so good :)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/1245day37Gal_020-med.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/1245day37Gal_020.jpg)

[Guest]

Your Galadriel looks gorgeous... 78 is getting to the outside edge tempwise... BUT... I bet you make it to the point of harvest with no problem.

Are you not going to use a central res with your buckets on your next go-around?

This should solve your temp issue.

[pistillwhipped]

Hydroguard eh? I have just experienced my first root rot issues and have been fighting it wit h2o2, of course, I run chem ferts, not orgainic.

Is Hydroguard specific to organic or can I use it with GH nutes?

[Guest]

I used SM-90 with GH salts... and it saved my ass. Good Stuff! I'm not sure about Hydroguard with salts.

SM-90 by Nutrilife
* Derived from natural plant extracts
* Non toxic and environmentally safe
* For plant disease control

SM-90 1L $17.95
SM-90 4L $59.95

For Treatment of Root

SM-90 is a root disease inhibitor which controls common anaerobic fungal and bacterial pathogens. Effective treatment for root disease from ascomycetes pathogens including fusarium, pythium, rhizoctonia, phytopthera, sclerotinia, etc. When added in small quantities directly to plant nutrient solutions, root disease infestations are inhibited and new root growth emerges. Treated plants develop greater root area and root runs and exhibit a generally healthier root development.

Application rate: Apply 2-3 ml to each gallon of nutrient solution on a weekly basis or whenever solutions are replaced. Routine use will provide preventative treatment to keep problems from developing during all stages of growth.

For treatment of tissue fungus (stem and leaf)

When applied directly to foliage or stem, SM-90 is an effective agent to treat for many moulds, mildew and leaf spot, etc. Effective treatment for botrytis, blight, fusarium, leaf mold, rhizoctonia stem rot, sclerotinia stem rot and others. SM-90 is prepared from natural plant oils and is completely non toxic to humans, animals or of course plants. It is totally biodegradable and environmentally friendly.

Application rate: Dilute 1 part SM-90 with 5 parts water to prepare a concentrate spray. Apply directly to affected areas of plant leaves, stems. Treatments may be repeated twice weekly until infestation is eliminated.

For treatment of insect infestation

When applied directly to foliage or grow mediums SM-90 is an effective agent to discourage and eliminate many common pests including aphids, thrips, spider mite, and whitefly, etc. It is believed to act as a systemic to inhibit insect colonization and to deter re-infestation.

Application rate: Dilute 1 part SM-90 with 5 parts water to prepare a concentrate spray. Apply directly to affected areas of plant leaves, stems, or roots. Treatments may be repeated twice weekly until infestation is eliminated. It is recommended that after 3 consecutive applications of the concentrate, to rinse the leaves with water to remove any old product build up and then repeat normal applications as usual.



Additional Benefits

Controlled lab and greenhouse tests revealed an unexpected benefit that was observed with the treated subjects. Results indicate that SM-90 dramatically increases the transpiration rate which improves the plants water and nutrient uptake capability. The plants treated consistently used 30% more water and nutrients than the control plants. This would result in an increased metabolism and accelerated growth rate.

Cautions

SM-90 is a great solution additive to discourage pests and fungal disease and other bacterial pathogens. It is however for this reason that it is not particularly advantageous in organic soils or solutions because it can inhibit beneficial bacterial colonization. If you are trying to promote bacteria growth this is probably not a desirable additive.

It can accumulate when sprayed repeatedly, heavy applications on leaves because it is a plant oil base, but it is easily removed with water.

[Guest]

Just curious if anyone else uses this product instead of sensizyme or other products in your res? I really like the fact it has bacteria free enzymes .

http://www.sipcobio.com/hygrozyme.html

just curious

[Guest]

Nice find Sharpie... looks very interesting... did you read the downloadable product brochure in PDF?

[Guest]

I have been using it this entire grow and I must admit i like the idea it being bacteria free and since it is bacteria free there is no shelflife which is a major plus for small scale growers like myself.

It was recommended by a guy at my local hydro store, he swears by it.......


You guys pick up a bottle and let me know what you think

[flipmastermike]

Both SM-90 and hygrozyme sound like great products.

To answer your question Maistre I am going to be using a central rez for my next grow. I am planning on a Recic. Dwc w/ probably 8 or more buckets with a main rez.Should help me out in a number of different places. Will especially help with the maintence.
I beleive the plants will get a much more consistent nute regimen with a main controller and rez. Changing 8 or more dwc buckets seperatly is no fun :)

[racketeer]

You forgot - SM-90 smells great too :D

[notpot]

bundesliga: you go through a whole flowering cycle without dumping the res? could you please explain how you do this? everyone i've talked to says you HAVE TO CHANGE EVERY 2 WEEKS OR ELSE BAD BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN. I don't think this is the most economical solution though, dumping nutes every 2 weeks. I have SM-90 and I use it when I have to be away for a while and can't keep temps below 70-75F. could you explain how you keep slime and pathogens from accumulating in your res ? thanks

[ogDNH]

be aware the stuff has a shelf life of a year and they never bother to date the bottles atleast at the suppliers i got.

[Guest]

I use Hydroguard and have found it to really help my roots! I used to get some slight rootrot from time to time and now I never get it and my roots are whiter than ever, super-healthy. As far as changing the res every 2 weeks? Hell no! Depends on your setup I mean, but, I change my water when I switch to 12/12 and when I flush, that is it. Only twice during the grow. I don't get bad salt-buildup (maybe cause I'm using PBP?) but if you do get salt-buildup you can just get a salt-flusher like Clearex? Flushing every two weeks is wasteful unless you're having problems, IMHO. :joint:

[sysprog]

Hydroguard is fine with any nutrients. It is very effective. SM90 could be considered pest control also, you can use it a foliar spray or soil drench in addition to being a hydro additive. Good stuff. Hygrozyme may help with root rot but being an enzyme it has many benefits. SM90 is good for cloning also!
SM90 and Hygrozyme can get expensive but do help.
Hydroguard is low cost insurance as far as I am concerned. It's a must have for any form of hydro. If temps are in check, use it at the lowest dose (5ml/gal) or lower.

[Guest]

WOuld there be a problem using hydroguard or hygrozyme with something like Pirahnna, Subculture, or Tarantula?

[schrooomy420]

I would think that mixing of those variouse beneficials would be fine. Just don;t use any SM-90 or you'll just kill everything. peace

[Guest]

anyone put SM90 in their ez clone?

Potroast

[Neptune]

I use 1ml per gallon SM-90
and 5ml per gallon Hydrogaurd

Can I use these together, or is it a waste?
Becuase sm-90 is supposed to be an inhibitor of bacteria and fungi, and Hydrogaurd is supposed to be beneficial bacteria...

hmm???

[sunnyside]

WOuld there be a problem using hydroguard or hygrozyme with something like Pirahnna, Subculture, or Tarantula?

hydrogaurd and hygrozyme are two different products....one eats dead protiens, the other is beneficial bacteria

[Guest]

hydrogaurd and hygrozyme are two different products....one eats dead protiens, the other is beneficial bacteria

Thanks for pointing that out... but I was wondering exactly how each one works when introduced in an environment with beneficial bacteria. Fuck it, i'll just call each company tommorow and find out exactly what each product does.

[darken]

Hydroguard is a product that I use from clone to harvest. In an EZ clone this product is very beneficial because of the high temps caused by the ezclone pump. It prevents dampening-off and root rot by creating a barrier around the plant stems ready to root. It also increases cloning success rate.

Use 5 ml / gallon in the EZ clone.

Add 10 ml / gallon to your rez every week to prevent root rot before it starts.

Hydroguard is also the same product as AN Voodoo Juice but it is much cheaper.

Hydroguard eh? I have just experienced my first root rot issues and have been fighting it wit h2o2, of course, I run chem ferts, not orgainic.

Is Hydroguard specific to organic or can I use it with GH nutes?

Hydroguard is safe to use with any nutrient but it will NOT stop root rot once it starts. It will however, prevent root rot before it starts. Add 10ml / gallon / week.

I used SM-90 with GH salts... and it saved my ass. Good Stuff! I'm not sure about Hydroguard with salts.

Yes you can use it with salts.

Thanks for pointing that out... but I was wondering exactly how each one works when introduced in an environment with beneficial bacteria. Fuck it, i'll just call each company tommorow and find out exactly what each product does.

Hydroguard adds beneficial bacteria such as bacillus subtilis allong with others. Bacillus Subtilis forms a protective endspore that allows the organism to tolerate extreme conditions like high water temps.

Hygrozyme is an enzyme that breaks down proteins. This helps the nutrients to eat up the nutrients faster. It also prevent pythium and algae from forming.

[Chiefsmokingbud]

I used hydroguard religiously last year and still ran into some small rot problems in 78* res temps.It was an nft system and i had plenty of o2 bubbling in the res........maybe it was just my bad luck. After that instance i switched to SM-90 and haven't had any problems since, go figure. I like how sm-90 smells and how it is effervescent (sp) in a bubbling res.

[BlindDate]

Keep your res temps down to 60-67 degrees and you won't need to add any of that crap.

Buy a chiller.

[farmerjim]

ok first off hydroguard and voodoo are not the same product at all. I have used hydroguard millions of times it basically colonizes your roots taking up all available real estate to prevent "bad" bacteria from colonizing them.
Hydroguard awesome product no shelf life does not prevent root rot entirely but does make for some very clean roots . the enzymes eat any dead root material and convert it to useable carbohydrates for the roots to feed on.
SM-90 a good product it is basically a wetting agent . It contains sulphonated oils canola (corn) and coriander(the coriander makes it smell good) the sulfer kills fungis and the chemical component trthenolimine (spelling) is an anti fungal as well.SM-90 will kill all benificials as well with hydrogen peroxide.
Personally I think the best thing is to use hygrozyme and hydroguard together. For a better education on bacteria google Bacillus you be amazed what it is used for. In the states a product called Gnatrol (gnat-rol) uses a strain of bacillus isralleanis to kill larve of fungus gnats (it actually eats them)

P.S. blindate you definatly right about the temps bro. I have added an ICE PROBE aquarium chiller to my Power Clone 45 and it works so damn well.

[filimagno]

those stuff as benefit bacteria and enzymes it could be find in the basic fertilizers...BUT ONLY IN THE REAL SERIOUS ONES....
cause when those type of compounds are separeted from the original mass they lost every form of good and equilibrated vitality

is the same story of the traditional agriculture....DO U WANNA RUN ORGANIC OR NOT??

so there's all in the nature(it remain in the stuff if the hidrolisis and the ferm,antation is made right....why separete them for marketing reasons????they don't act as well as linked with natural carbon.

someone know the C\N ratio ???

someone know the way for extract those bacteria and enzymes?

the only two important things for the cultivation are the mycorrizal inoculation and the trichoderma harzianum ..CAUSE THEY WORKS SO WELL.(IF THEY'RE FRESH STUFF..IT DECADE IN 6-12 MONTHS FROM THE PRODUCTION STORED IN THE FRIDGE)

IMPORTANT:hydroponic will not goes organic in anyway without the life of the biofilter!!!!

ps....if u are looking for a mold and fungus problem solver: U NEED AN EQUISETUM OR ALGAE EXTRACT CAUSE THEY CONTAINS SILICATES (THE FIRST) AND OLIGOSACCARIDES + NATURAL HORMONES (the 2nd)...it help the production of phytoallesines on the plants .( immunoresponsive action)

[KingRalph]

nice info filimango, thanks. can you recommend an equisetum product? or do we have to get silica blast an the oli+hormones? dunno thought i'd ask ;)

i've used hydroguard and sm-90. sm-90 came after root rot and cleared it right up, though i paired it with hygrozyme, which was essential in the process.

so i suppose for beforehand or if you are staying organic, use hydroguard and a zyme (hygro is much better/stronger/faster than hydrozyme)...

but if you are not organic or have root rot problems already... go with the sm-90 + hygrozyme pair... knockout combo i tell ya. if only hygrozyme was say, 50% cheaper? but gotta do what gotta do :P

chillers are so damn expensive, workin on a DIY that should be less than $100 total (though much less for my packrat self lol)

peace n green thumbs all

[Flutch]

I will be using Hydrogaurd for sure in my first hydro setup! Thanks for all the info

[Neptune]

Hydroguard and SM90 should not be used together.

SM90 will inhibit the bacteria growth of the Hydroguard.

I use SM-90 as a foliar, and a dip to prevent all sorts of diseases and pests.... preventative maintence ins they key here.

Hydrogaurd gets added to every reservoir I ever mix, at 5ml/gal. Prevents all sorts of reservoir troubbles. Hygrozyme is great with Hydrogaurd aswell!

These are pretty much the only additives I use in hydroponics.
GH 3 part, Hydrogaurd and Hygrozyme.

[Chiefsmokingbud]

I have a question. doing a soil grow next and have a 1/4 bottle of hydro guard i need to use up. couldn't hurt if i used it soil also right?

[Equipment Junki]

Hydroguard is basically Bacillus Subtillis.

Companion has ten times more Bacillus than Hydroguard does.

Use it from the beginning (clone into media that has it) to prevent pythium and the like. I keep the nute temps around 68-69 degrees F. with a big (1/2 hp) chilller.

Plants use up to 40% of their energy promoting one microbe over another depending upon what they need.

If you run a bio-filter, you can give microbes a place to colonize in the presence of oxygen.

I ran an aeroponic system for a year without changing the res. Just topped it off with quarter strength nutes when needed.

Make sure you have enough oxygen in your res by using an air pump and air stone.

The O2 Max will run (2) Boss Hog airstones by Deep Water Innovations and will cut down on those smelly blooms in your res.

Go easy on the Companion by-the-way.

I use 1 oz pergallon, and then 1/2 oz per gallon about once a month, but I have a biofilter.

Check out EA/EN Mycorriaeze also. Works.

Respect

[Guest]

I made a chamber for breeding an ultimate Rhizo colonizing tea. it contains all of the above mentioned and more.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53095

J.

[XGovernor]

Great thread, I learned a lot.

[TheAfficianado]

I moved very young seedlings that had just popped from soil to a light hydro solution of Maxicrop and a drop of SuperThrive. They totally rocked until I noticed they had slowed down, and I looked at the roots and noticed a serious brown jelly. The tops of the plants and the roots were still healthy, but the jelly was damn hard to get off under running tap water and dips in 3% ho3.
I then proceeded to get nute burn. So I got some SubCulture and Hydroguard, even though they have some redundentcy in the cultures, I use half and half and I have totally dropped the level of nutes in my solution and I hope for the best.

But can anyone give us some pics of positive beneficial bugs on roots or in resevoirs so we know what is good? I feel we got a lot of pics of bad bugs, but none of good bugs. Also, I see where sea sponge is suggested. Is a place for the culture to live necessary in DWC, or do they just live on the rotts themselves? Do I need to supply I bunch of nooks and crannies?
Thanks,
The Afficianado

[gotvape420]

Afficianado:
i had the exact same problem with the first clones i took. the slowed down, i check the dwc (5 gal buckets, no rez or controller) and they were nasty. i went to the hydro store and i got some good advice. sm-90 is what you need, it rocked when i used it. new roots in 2 days! you can almost smell it working! once you mix it in, the bubbles become froth, its really great stuff.

once i got the roots back to optimal health, i started using hydroguard. sm90 will take back your roots, hydroguard will keep them healthy as the preventative. but like was stated before, dont use them together. the sm90 will kill the hydroguard. best of luck bro, you can save em!

[TheAfficianado]

I already put in the Hydroguard and SubCulture, so I guess I skipped the SM-90. Hopefully someone has pics of the good bugs or just a healthy root system that uses the products that have been mentioned. Thanks everybody.

[TheAfficianado]

Oh, and in order to get my 50th post, I forgot to mention that I run a organic hydro system.
The Afficianado

PM's here I come!!!!

[gotvape420]

i hear ya. on your next nute change you could use sm90 if you still have root issues.

BUT I DONT KNOW IF ITS ORGANIC!! i understand the organic issue (live in a very progressive community that is all about organic cultivations, buds and otherwise), so if anyone knows PLEASE chime in. OMRI certification might be on the label, but im not at the grow to check it.

you just add it 2-5ml per gallon per week. i use gallon jugs to top off my dwc, so i just dillute a mix in those. i used a stronger formula when i first started using it. but this stuff is badass, as long as you give it time to work (ex: a slow drinking plant doesnt need as much, i just mix it in the top off to keep the ratio the same), it will take control and you can move to a lower strength solution.

it killed off root rot in clones, full blown mothers, and plants in between. i did a lot of experimenting on my first grow, and this stuff saved some of my mistakes. i owe the rest to hydroguard.

good luck man, just tweak your setup with the additives everyone is discussing here and you will be fine. good thread btw.

[Plant Whisperer]

great information......

I just started hydro from soil, I read in the thread, that some plants were slowing down, possible root rot, and what to use to recover.

My question is how do you know if you have root rot? I keep getting my seedlings to a certain point and then they just stop or really slow down, is this root rot?

[-=KwarE=-]

I bought a worm factory off of ebay and compost all my food in it. It works great and i make a worm tea with the liquid that drains off the "worm factory" i add a couple ounces of mollases, 20ml of age old kelp, 12oz of worm juice, and let it bubble with 8gals of water and some heat for 1-3 days... It is INSANE, the amount of foam i get off the bubbler. The bloom from the beneficial bacteria has never made my roots so healthy.... I use it in my cloner too. Keeps the slime from starting. One of the best secrets in organic farming IMHO.

I feel like the aerobic bacteria that blooms in this tea, does the same thing as hydroguard, only it is more active IMHO; because its not bottled like HG. I've added this stuff to 4x4 tables that had tons of leaves in them and unstable ph's..... ive also added it to resevoirs w/ slimy roots and watched it compost the slime and dead roots while protecting the healthy ones. It fights off anything anaerobic and overtakes it with aerobic growth as long as you dont starve it of oxygen. Ive seen really amazing results on everything ive used it on. Specificly in root health alone.

[mrcheezy503]

Ill use this in my waterfarm grow

[PonicalChillin]

just caught wind from my local shop that hydroguard is being taken off the market - not sure if its for good or just temporary. said they got a email from their distributor concerning it.

..something about the labeling talking about being a biological water treatment solution. Maybe they're going to reword the labels and bring it back. ??

just what I heard.

[ItsGrowTime]

just caught wind from my local shop that hydroguard is being taken off the market - not sure if its for good or just temporary. said they got a email from their distributor concerning it.

..something about the labeling talking about being a biological water treatment solution. Maybe they're going to reword the labels and bring it back. ??

just what I heard.

My hydro shop today informed me about this. Said it was being discontinued. THAT SUCKS!!! I use it. Now to find a replacement...

[dongle69]

My hydro shop today informed me about this. Said it was being discontinued. THAT SUCKS!!! I use it. Now to find a replacement...


Companion by American Hydroponics.
More concentrated and cheaper to use as well.