Liquid Karma information

[Guest]

LIQUID KARMA ™Bio-catalyst Plant Stimulant (FYI)
Product description and Benefits....

The introduction of LIQUID KARMA ™ represents a major and significant breakthrough in plant nutrition.
This is because LIQUID KARMA ™ contains a full complement of metabolically active organic compounds not found in regular plant foods or supplements. These unique compounds are absorbed immediately and act as regulatory signals, activators or catalysts to produce synchronized and accelerated growth under all conditions. LIQUID KARMA ™ functions as a growth engine because its high metabolic activity produces a large amount of energy which is immediately transformed to growth.

Biochemical Composition
LIQUID KARMA ™ contains seven major groups of nutrients based on their specific effects on plant growth and development:

A. Fermented Compost Solution – prepared by exhaustive bacterial and enzymatic fermentation of fish meal, composted seabird guano, spirulina, sea kelp, and soybean meal. In order to enhance the fermentation process and obtain a product which contains the highest possible biological activity, the fermentation is carried out in different stages in the presence of humic acid, citric acid, raw sugar cane, complex carbohydrates, glucose, fructose and over 72 trace elements. Fermented compost solution prepared in this manner is used by an increasing number of organic gardeners to obtain luxuriant vegetative growth, huge flowers and flavorful fruits and vegetables.

B. Amino Acids – LIQUID KARMA ™ contains essential amino acids which are derived from casein hydrolysate and soybean protein hydrolysate. Amino acids are important plant nutrients because they serve as building blocks for structural proteins and enzymes. In addition, amino acids are also involved in the activation of transfer ribonucleic acids (t-RNAs) and DNA synthesis.The following amino acids are present in LIQUID KARMA ™:glycine, alanine, valine, leucine, isoleucine, serine, threonine, aspartic acid, glutamic acid, asparagine, glutamine, lysine, arginine, histidine, cysteine, cystine, methionine, proline, phenylalanine, tyrosine and tryptophan.

C. Vitamins – All of the vitamins used in this formulation are extremely beneficial for plant growth because they function as co-factors for enzymes involved in carbohydrate metabolism and the biosynthesis of macromolecules. LIQUID KARMA™ contains significant amounts of riboflavin, thiamine, pyridoxine and all of the other B-complex vitamins obtained from fermented yeast extracts.

D. Plant Extracts – LIQUID KARMA™ also contains aqueous and ethanolic extracts of etiolated wheat seedlings and Zea mays. These extracts contain high levels of the plant hormones known as auxins and cytokinins. For successful plant micropropagation (tissue culture), the crucial requirements for an auxin and cytokinin are well documented in botanical literature.

E. Humic Acid – In addition to the ingredients indicated above, LIQUID KARMA™ contains optimal levels of humic acid and fulvic acid derived from leonardite. These substances are known to stimulate the growth of roots, shoots and flow-ers, by maintaining the proper osmotic concentration in cells.

F. Seaweed Extract – LIQUID KARMA ™ also contains a high proportion of seaweed extract obtained from North Atlantic Kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum). Kelp extract contains metabolically active carbohydrates, complex carbohydrates, minerals such as cobalt, strontium and iodine, and growth substances that are known to be beneficial for plant growth.

G. Carbohydrates – Carbohydrates are included in LIQUID KARMA ™ because they are the direct or indirect precursors of virtually every metabolite. Their presence provides the added burst of energy required to assimilate and metabolize all of the other wonderful ingredients present in LIQUID KARMA ™.

Benefits of Using LIQUID KARMA ™
Extensive research and field trials indicate that LIQUID KARMA ™ produces beneficial results during every phase of plant growth. Starting with seed germination and following through to vegetative growth, budding and flowering, the continued use of LIQUID KARMA ™ ensures optimal plant growth at every stage. In addition, because of the presence of high concentrations of B-complex vitamins and plant hormones in LIQUID KARMA ™, the product has been shown to be very effective in protecting plants from transplant shock, and in promoting the rooting of cuttings. The seven nutrient groups used in the formation of LIQUID KARMA ™ act synergistically to produce optimal plant growth.

[dj digigrow]

I will reccomend it.. only thing I didnt like is that it tints your roots to a dark tan color... Besides that.. great product..

[schrooomy420]

Does dye your roots, but I love the stuff been useing it for years. peace

[mrwags]

I'm currently using Liquid Karma as a Foiler Feed for my young baby girls and must say they Love it.


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Mr.Wags

[walker_so]

Yeah I noticed that LK dyes my air stoned too, how fast do you think it is actually obsorved? Would you recommend it with 3 part GH nutes in a DWC setup? I belive on the back of the bottle it says: 10ml per 4liters seems a little bit heavy, should I drop the ppm before i put liquid karma in?

[GanjaJedi]

I'm a new liquid karma user, my roots are really exploding too!

[RuralRoute420]

how much do you guys use in rez during flower, per gallon?

[sunnyside]

the amount the label recommends...I think it is something like 15 mils per gallon.

[Guest]

is it available in Europe?

[Guest]

I use LK and love it, definately helps in root developement.

Mr Wags,I never tried using it in a mister on rooted seedlings. What ratio are you using for mist application, and how often you mist with the LK solution?

[WeldFlash420]

I'm intrested as well in the foliar applications. I currently use it with every watering along with superthrive and it works great. But if I can expand my horizons here a bit more I'd like to, thanks ahead of thime.

[mrwags]

I use LK and love it, definately helps in root developement.

Mr Wags,I never tried using it in a mister on rooted seedlings. What ratio are you using for mist application, and how often you mist with the LK solution?


I have a 32oz pump up sprayer that I can nozzle out tp a fine mist and mix it 3ml to that 32oz. I do not do this alot but have found this to help the leaves from turning yellow in the cloner and being a nice wash down for the girls in the buckets once or twice a month in the veg stage.


Mr.Wags

[farmerjim]

The dying of the roots is actually just the humic acid. It's what makes it black. Usually fulvic acid has a golden color. You should notice when first added your resevoir will be black as night after a day the unusable amount of humic acid (the solid humates ) will fall out of your solution to the bottom (or stick to air stones). Not all humates fall out so your water will be dark still but have more of a yellow color from the fulvic acid. The big "magic" in Karma is the humic fulvic they are both natural chelates that will bond with nutes making it easier for the plant to uptake its ferts. Also the plant extracts help add awesome flavor as well as does the humic.
I generally regard humic fulvic as a must for any good grow you will notice that pureblend pro also has a listed 7% humic fulvic. As far as availibility in europe I believe DNA seeds in a-dam is the official UE distributor.

[Guest]

I always use LK at 5ml/gal in my rez. I also use Fossil fuel at half the rate. Probably in the end about the same if you use LK alone but a little bit cheaper for the guys doing it on a budget.

[farmerjim]

I wouldnt compare fossil fuel to karma by any means at all. Karma is much more complex and has a huge amount of amino acids. I'm not saying fossil fuel is not a good additive but it just isnt LK

[Guest]

Anyone have any information on the new label liquid karma?

If anyone remembers the old label stated that the stuff had 20% humic acids. If you take a look at the new label it is only .01%.

The community was upset at this change and apparently the old formula is in effect again by customer demand(but still using the new label for FDA clerance in CA or something).

Any truth that the new label is high in humic acids like the old? Seems to work just the same.

Friendly tip for cloning. Mix up a small bowl (1/2 gal) of a mixture of water, hygrozyme, and liquid karma for cloning. Dunk your rapid rooter plugs or rockwool in the mix before popping in your cuttings. Seems to improve and speed things up quite a boit.


Later
PL

[farmerjim]

The label changed to match all the new labels. The old label was old and marketing waits for no one. The old label was painted by an artist by the name of James angel he does some trippy work. The formula was changed for a short time in an effort to save money (assuming) on the cost of deriving the humic/fulvic from leonardite shale also it was believed it would work just as well without the higher levels. However the real blame rests on canadas shoulders. Since humic acid and fulvic acid are not actuall fertilizers they have a hard time registering for importing. I believe this is why advanced bottles the engys f1 and h1 products in washington state.
However Karma is now back to the same formula it has always been. and the recomend above for cloning with karma and hygrozyme is good advice. As a matter of fact the highest recomended rates for karmas usage is for clones at 20ml's a gallon. Karma has also been used in tissue culturing tobacco in labs. Personally anything that can grow plants from a tissue sample is A+ in my book.

[Guest]

Guess I need to quit listening to the local hydro guy. Went back to using just LK and that is when I saw the diff. After this grow I am going back to PBP and the line of additives.

[Babbabud]

Awesome product I love LK indoors hydro and soil and outdoors right in mother earth. She is a standard in my garden and staying that way!!

[mrwags]

Guess I need to quit listening to the local hydro guy. Went back to using just LK and that is when I saw the diff. After this grow I am going back to PBP and the line of additives.



Your singing to the choir Brother! I love the bBio line and feel it keeps life much simplier.



Mr.Wags

[Guest]

Awesome product I love LK indoors hydro and soil and outdoors right in mother earth. She is a standard in my garden and staying that way!!

I hear ya man, LK shits all over PBP's chest :pointlaug

[Snarf]

Can't seem to find this stuff on any European website :badday:

[DirtDr.]

Good info and a nice post keep it up

[Mackawber]

Looks to me like Botanicare took a lot of the humic acid out of the new formulation of Liquid Karma.

Liquid Karma used to be 20% Humic Acid. Now it's only 0.1%.

Check out where they put the humic acid at! In the Pure Blend Pro Grow nutes! PBP grow is now 20% humic acid. It looks like they switched it around. I bought some PBP Grow and saw that it was 20% humic acid so I went out and bought a new bottle of Liquid Karma (I was out of it anyway).

Next time I buy nutes I'm going to just get some Alaskan Fish nutes and some Maxicrop liquid seaweed and save some money. Right now I use PBP grow and flower and use FoxFarms Big bloom as a one time heavy N2 feeding when I go to flowering. In late flowering I switch from PBP flower to EarthJuice flower.

[DrLongbottom]

I spoke with a Botanicare tech recently and he assured me that The bottles on the shelves are filled with old formula but labeled as new formula....some excuse about using old labels that had already been printed...sounds illegal. So I did a test of old label versus new label...ppms were identical so maybe he was being truthful about the formula being labeled wrong. I told them to get there act together cuz alot of people are very nervous about what they are actually putting in those bottles. peace DLB :joint:

[glock23]

Damn they should know better than to use those labels. Would it hurt to slap some stickers on the incorrect labels? Jeez.

[Dr. Bloom]

Does anyone know how large of a role the auxin and cytokinin play in the increase in root/plant growth from the LK.

I was reading through my Bio book and came across this....

Auxin stimulates shoot growth (toward light), inhibits lateral bud (shoot) development, stimulates root branching, but inhibits root growth (from the tip).

Cytokinin works as essentially a reverse auxin.....
Inhibits shoot growth, stimulates lateral bud development, inhibits root branching, and stimulates root growth from the tip.

So if we use both these hormones in conjunction will they give us a noticable benefit, or will they essentially cancel eachother out?

Also...if we were to want to do a Scrog for example, are there any products available that would contain only cytokinin, as it would make for a more branchy plant. Or conversly could we get an auxin only nutrient additive if we are looking for "spear buds" in a SOG setup?

Just looking from some insight if anyone has any. Thanks.

[coolx]

^^^ good question. Anyone?

[stonedeconomist]

here is some info on plant hormones from the kelpak website, kelpak is a south african seaweed extract which i've read is one of the better seaweed extracts used buy comercial hydroponic vegtable growers. of course if you buy this stuff you have to get it from a comercial hydro supplier not a grow shop, which means it won't be shipped discretely. but the site does have a lot of good info.

Plant Growth Hormones
Auxins are naturally produced in a plants' shoot tips and translocate down the plant. Cytokinins are naturally produced in the root tips and translocate up the plant…

Now if you remove the roots of an actively growing plant and immerse the base in water...

Auxins continue to be produced in the shoot tips and move down the plant to it's base. As the cytokinin producing root source has been removed, a high auxin to low cytokinin ratio arises at the base of the plant.

As soon as the plant "recognises" this situation, a rooting response is triggered. This in turn becomes self perpetuating as the prolific roots now generate higher levels of cytokinins which in turn promote top growth. It is therefore easy to understand why a cytokinin product will inhibit root development. The "message" given to the plant upon application of a cytokinin source is; I have sufficient roots!

Kelpak is a high auxin/ low cytokinin product which triggers rooting.

here is the link to the site
http://www.kelpak.co.za/products.asp?contentID=15

[Neuronaut]

I'm thinking about trying it out? Who in here swears by this???

[GDB]

I keep multiple jugs of this stuff on hand at all times and would recommend it to anyone. I've been utilizing PBP nutes for veg and bloom along with liquid karma for years now. Never had any problems and this stuff definitely helps things along. Atami makes a product called Bcuzz that used in conjunction with LK gives great results, especially with their veg additive. I've used these products in soil and hydro and have only seen good results. A nice healthy dose of floralicious also helps out near the end of bloom.

[dav zap]

Everyone who tries it ~ eh.

[Moppel]

should it be used during every stage of the plant? for rooting clones, for veg , for flower?

[GDB]

should it be used during every stage of the plant? for rooting clones, for veg , for flower?

Use it anytime you can, rooting, veg, flowering, cloning, and germination. I don't necessarily recommend it as a folair spray, though I'm sure it can't hurt.

[Moppel]

ok cool, so it makes roots grow faster, seeds germinate faster, what does it does in veg? does it make them grow faster or different?

And in veg i suppose it makes bigger buds......(?)

[kokua]

the benefits you see from LK aren't going to be related to any particular plant function specifically...LK helps with overall plant health and vigor.

I WOULD recommend using LK as a foliar through veg...greens plants up fantastic!

[kokua]

Does anyone know how large of a role the auxin and cytokinin play in the increase in root/plant growth from the LK.

I was reading through my Bio book and came across this....

Auxin stimulates shoot growth (toward light), inhibits lateral bud (shoot) development, stimulates root branching, but inhibits root growth (from the tip).

Cytokinin works as essentially a reverse auxin.....
Inhibits shoot growth, stimulates lateral bud development, inhibits root branching, and stimulates root growth from the tip.

So if we use both these hormones in conjunction will they give us a noticable benefit, or will they essentially cancel eachother out?

Also...if we were to want to do a Scrog for example, are there any products available that would contain only cytokinin, as it would make for a more branchy plant. Or conversly could we get an auxin only nutrient additive if we are looking for "spear buds" in a SOG setup?

Just looking from some insight if anyone has any. Thanks.

Commercially available auxins are going to be your rooting hormones...rootech, clonex, hormex, vita-grow, etc... Cytokinins are going to be found in alot of your seaweed products like CytoactinT from Amercian hydroponics, Nitrozime, Super Nova from Amercian Hydro, etc...

Please don't play around with hormones...rooting hormones are essential to the cutting process...but other than that growers should try and stay away from trying to influence plant responses by manipulating hormones...it leads to trouble imo.

My advice....use auxins(rooting hormones) for the cutting process...and use your preferred seaweed extract (cytokinins) during veg as you normally would... I would not recommend any direct manipulation of hormones...especially in flower.

Use LK like it says on the label...use it all the way through flower. :joint: LK's hormones are in balance, so no need to worry about it.

[gojo]

kokua or anyone:

Did you notice a ph swing when using LK? Do you use hydro or soil/soil-less?

I wanted to add LK in my rez (ebb/flow w/PBPS) but I read it can wreak havoc on the ph and tds?

Kokua,
How much LK to use per liter when foliar feeding?

best regards,

[Sleepy]

it lowers my pH from 7.9 to around 6.5...

i haven't had to use pH down since i started using it!!

i have seen nothing but positive results in my garden!!

i grow indoors in pro-mix.
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[Guest]

Bumpin this thread.

How does LK differ from Floralicious, which has many of the same ingredients.

I have both. I have been using Floralicious for about a year and noticed enhanced smell and flavor. Haven't tried the LK, but bought it to see what the difference was myself.

Any one with experience with both?

[kokua]

very similiar products. I prefer the LK, but just my personal preferrence :)

[Guest]

Thanks!

[Guest]

LK i think also sure helps the trics, and if you somehow acidently stress your plants and then give them lk, it seems to reduce the stressful affects.

[Guest]

LK, Awesome stuff!!!

I'm using it in all stages but not in every feeding.

I start with using it in my peat pellets for cloning.

I use it to help my mothers recover and veg up quickly after a serious cut session.

I mix it up in their reccomended foliar ratio and add my pesticides to take advantage of the soak they are about to get.

I foliar spray it on my just transplanted clones in the main rooms.

I at the same time mix it with my nutes during trans.

I do a 10 day veg and use it twice with the nutes.

I use it 3 times throughout my flower cycle. (I feed every second watering)

I've seen nothing but great results with it. No problems as of date. It's helped my plants pull through stressful times quicker.

I just had my lights off for 2.5 nights during the transitional phase and had all kinds of yellow bud sites and undergrowth. Whacked them with LK and the results were within hours not days.

Shits expensive but well worth IMHO. :joint:

[PhillyPride]

Liquid Karma is Excellent especially in conjunction with HYGROZYME trully remarkable results

[shiva das]

LK is great, have been using it for years. but....
there is a new product out from Aurora called roots organics, trinity. It is basicilly the same stuff but roots has 0.75% humic, molasses, yucca extract, quillaja extract, kelp...
I have heard nothing but good things about this stuff, so i finally gave it a run...I put it in my res and it started to foam...like brewing a tea. i am using flora nova so PH remand steady....
AN just put a product out as well, called nirvana. it is the same thing but with all this shit in it...even has a perfumey smell. I think the are using their alochol aminos in it...
As of now....it's all about Trinity.
shiva das

[Guest]

there is a new product out from Aurora called roots organics, trinity. It is basicilly the same stuff but roots has 0.75% humic, molasses, yucca extract, quillaja extract, kelp...
I have heard nothing but good things about this stuff, so i finally gave it a run...I put it in my res and it started to foam...like brewing a tea. i am using flora nova so PH remand steady....As of now....it's all about Trinity.
shiva das

i've been very happy with trinity as well. good stuff.

[konstantgrdnr]

I just want to point out that these two hormones should be used safely, there are very negative health effects which can happen if your not careful.
read all safety precautions and wear the correct equipment gloves,glasses etc, and always wash your hands after handling these chemicals. I don't want to sound like a prude, but think it must be said.

Grow Safe
Grow More
Grow Often

[hurricane]

I'm curious about the applications rates everyone is using for liquid kharma, when it comes to freshly rooted clones going into their destination pots. The bottle suggests 15-20ml/gal for transplants. On the other hand the botanicare advanced recipe formulation sheet (http://www.americanagritech.com/product/product_detail.asp?ID=1&pro_id_pk=90) suggests only 3-5ml/gal of LK for rooted cuttings. being such a huge difference i'm wondering what peoples uses are.

For background i'm doing recirc coco w/ drip feeders SOG style in 9" square pots. In particular im refering to the makeup of the first res of nutes you mix up when taking clones which have been getting only water, to planted in your system. I'm using PBP soil bloom, LK, and CalMag+ w/RO.
Hurricane

[ShroomDr]

i use a recirc coco w/ drip feeders in 3Gal square pots in my flowering room.
so far ive been using 5ml/Gal and it moves the ec roughly 0.175 (pre circulation of course).

i like your nutes, but i suggest dropping the RO water. check out BigToke's Water Chemistry thread.

[hurricane]

i use a recirc coco w/ drip feeders in 3Gal square pots in my flowering room.
so far ive been using 5ml/Gal and it moves the ec roughly 0.175 (pre circulation of course).

i like your nutes, but i suggest dropping the RO water. check out BigToke's Water Chemistry thread.

I just read that thread, but still honestly i fear my tap water. its got an EC of 0.7-0.8. It leaves stuff on all my dishes/silverware after a few washes always having to clean them up afterwards. It makes my skin feel sticky without using really nice soap in the shower. All in all i'm not a fan of it, and it just doesn't seem like the plants wouldn't like it either.

Hurricane

[Gtotoys]

Big fan of L.K. here, been using it for years.

[Guest]

Damn this stuff is pretty impressive. I will be adding it to my list of things to buy.

[TheOneWill]

Can you use LK for like a cloning hormone or solution?

[dongle69]

Can you use LK for like a cloning hormone or solution?


yes you can.

[TheOneWill]

I let them sit in some LK for like 10-15min. Hope that was long enough.

[Dreamscape]

Hi everyone :wave:

About 15 or so months ago I purchased a big bottle of LK and never once got to use it for various reasons ...

I was wondering [ and i'm sure others will as well ] if Liquird Karma Expires? Does liquid karma go bad?

If so - how? and how long does it take?

thanks as always friends
~ dream

[beamx0r]

Hi everyone :wave:

About 15 or so months ago I purchased a big bottle of LK and never once got to use it for various reasons ...

I was wondering [ and i'm sure others will as well ] if Liquird Karma Expires? Does liquid karma go bad?

If so - how? and how long does it take?

thanks as always friends
~ dream
bump

i had a bottle sitting in my garage for about a year and somehow it go knocked over. There was this crystal like crust that hardened out of it. Is it still good?

[Hammerhead]

not sure I have never had some go bad. I use alot I order gallon and it is used up in about a year. This is all I use and my organic soil I make.

American Agritech - Liquid Karma Gallon
AASLGA American Agritech - Pure Blend Pro Soil Bloom Gallon
ANSLGA Advanced Nutrients - Dr. Hornby's Sweet Leaf 4 Liter

[L~B]

can u use this stuff in a gro clone or as a folier srpay ? to speed rooting of course

[socialist]

I've been using LK for about 2 years now w/ GH 3part in dwc buckets. I only use half the recommended amount in clone and veg and not at all in flowering. It seems to aid in the foliage growth to much in flower so I cut it out after 2 cycles. But I have no complaints and think its a great product. I did a side by side with it and the LK plants were healthier looking and grew like crazy compared to non LK plants.

[cannakid]

bio bizz makes a bloom stimulator (topmax) that is 30% humic acid and 15% kelp, it omri listed too. i used to use the pbp bloom but phazed into the bio bizz line. their bloom is the only thing not omri listed but its only derived from kelp and molases, i was also useing primal harvest guano in the last cycle. i had the bigest granddady purple buds soo far and this new romulan plant i have from a seed has got the biger bids ive grown indoors in the 3 years i have under the belt, i used the whole bio bizz line on it besides the top max and i didnt need the bio-fish or heaven. -i used liquid karma i had from a while back and root juice i was useing as a bloom/root enhance when transplanting and for clones. i figure if its best for clones great but if it can enhance the root zone that means beter nutrint exchang ethrought the bloom cycle. root juice makes for kicken clones and i use liquid karma mostly for mixign soil, transplanting and throught bloom and vegg but mostly in bloom. i dont think ill use it again, it'll go outdoor building that area for spring production. http://rosemania.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product57.html

now i keep the root juice for the clones and have a bottle of topmax lightly for transplants and during the first half or so of the bloom cycle. it was spandy(40 bucks per liter) and is experimantal for me but i think humic acid is important in the organic process. i add dr earths strarter fertilizer at a cup and a half per bag of ocianforest and i also use kelp meal and light amounts of blood, bone and some more alfalfa meal then what the dr earth supplied, i also get some compost when avalible eather vermicrop or organics alive but i substitute the dr earths starter fertilizer as a make shift compost -its a compost activator and can be made into a tea aswell. i also have been useing dr earths starter fertilizer for the first time and the garden loves it.

bio bizz (top max) are distributed through general hydroponics in sobastipol CA -im useing earth juice bloom to subtitute primal harvest guano ive been top-dressing. its made with the same guano i think, from hydro-organics. its a no nitrogen phosphorus booster like the primal harvest but with a touch of K and its a liquid food wich i like plus its cheep at 12 bucks a quort. comparable to the bio bizz grow and bloom and i think they compliment each other, the bio biz haveing molasses and kelp in their bloom. and the earth juice haveing all ther other needed goodies, add 'em together you got bio-juice lol ~all omri listed, exept bio-bloom :nanana:

[knifehitz]

You guys, try Floralicious Plus. It's more concentrated, cheaper by the dose, and has beneficial bacteria!

[Jim Dunlop]

I use LK in my aero system. Works great! Here are the roots a few weeks back.

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[funkfingers]

love this stuff, seems to speed up the rooting of clones, helps the plants be more vigorous, the only thing about it is I wish it was organic.