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mybeans420
09-23-2004, 01:15 AM
looking forward to pickin your brain there TK.
i'm glad they decided to start a forum on this topic.

peace
beans

Guest
09-23-2004, 01:18 AM
It's all about learning my brutha.

If your going to pick my brain you might better bring a rag or something to clean the gooey resin off my mellon

Tex

BuzzBob
09-23-2004, 01:19 AM
Heh! Had to get that 1st post in, eh MB? I thought about it, but couldn't think of a good topic...

I have to admit, though I am new and doing GH Nutes on my first Grows, with all I am seeing about the taste and purity with Organics, I am thinking of trying it down the road.

So this forum will be great!!! 'n I am certain TK will do a wonderful job rid'n herd over all of us! ;)


-BuzzBob

BuzzBob
09-23-2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Texas Kid
something to clean the gooey resin off my mellon Hell! If it is gooey resin that we get from your skull, I'll scrape it, stuff it, and blaze it up! :D

Guest
09-23-2004, 01:22 AM
Rollin, Rollin, Rollin, keep them doggies rollin

Tex

Guest
09-23-2004, 01:23 AM
Go for it Mybeans. You'll never look back.

Blatant

Guest
09-23-2004, 01:29 AM
Come on in, the water is fine

Tex

chuckyoufarley
09-23-2004, 06:59 AM
i'll be jumpin into the hydro scene in a couple a months i have a 3'
table with a rez thats 3'sq about 12-15 ''tall haven't tried hydro
yet but since i got all this shit i might just as well use it right
peace burn a fatty
chucky

mrwags
09-23-2004, 09:16 AM
Texas Kid,


Thank you so much on your Pyrex Bake Around cool tube thread.(It Saved Andre's Girls) I'm currently using Pure Blend Pro Liquid Karma Cal-Mag and the new Hydroplex Bloom Enhancer. I'm still getting yellowing at the base Leaves I battled high heat 90 + all summer and even tried pumping in a/c air directly into my box but got humidity down to 20-25 % and I think stunted some of them. What is your wisdom on the proper mix of these nutes since I'm using a drip system sittin on top of a 10 gal res. all the roots are sitting in the water now (water temps 67-75) ph 5.5. Is it bad to use super ph down with pure blend,does this kill the nutes. I have recently found something called euro salt that is twice as strong as regular epsom salt and was also wondering if it is bad to use this in conjuction with cal mag(locking out N?) My ppm are usually around 1000. I've used well water that comes out at 250 ppm and ph at 7.1 and also r/o water from the local market. i'm 4 weeks into flower the new growth is fine but the yellowing is still making me wonder if I'm missing something simple just like the cool tube. also I've read that flushing with organic nutes is not as a big deal than with regular nutes is this true? By the way Texas Rocks spent many a winter night kicking the shit out of old men in The Cow Palace racing Motorcycles in the dash for cash features, besides any State that spends 3.5 million dollars for signs to put on the side of the road that say Don't Mess With Texas usually mean it.


Congrats on finding rapid rooters Those little babies are a god send. Do you think we could get Andre to try some? Sorry guys and gals But rockwool sucks. If I can do a successful grow with rapid rooters from seed believe me anybody can.

Mr.Wags

Guest
09-23-2004, 07:10 PM
Wags,

I use the same combo of nutes from time to time and have found that the Pure Blend Pro has a ph buffer built in so ph is not an issue at all. I don't use the bottle instructions either, it tends to make it to strong for me. The ph seems a little low at 5.5. The Pure Blend Pro will hold 5.9-6.2 without any adjusting.

I have not run the Hydroplex as of yet so I am not real familiar with it. I use Top Max from Bio Bizz as a bloom booster.

Humidity could bump up a bit as well around 45-50% is what I have been liking lately and sometimes as high as 60% depending on the day.

I would stay away from the epsom salt at this stage because the Pure Blend Pro is basically a stand alone nute that has the elements built in to the mix.

Tex

mrwags
09-23-2004, 08:36 PM
Point noted Tex. clear exing as I type will do a nute change a post pics in a couple of days. Was putting ph were I've read at other sites to be optimal. Some even say as low as 5.2. If you say 5.9 - 6.2 then dammit it's gonna be 5.9-6.2. I'm gonna go half strength with a pbp,cal mag,liquid karma and hydroplex mix and will get ppm to around 1000.


Thanks Tex.

Mr.Wags

Guest
09-23-2004, 08:55 PM
Just a note, I am not super exact on my nute mixes. Alot of it is watching the plants and figuring out what the need. I add small amounts till I get the consentration were I want it

Tex

00420
09-23-2004, 09:02 PM
i wanna see...link me...i missed it

I.M. Boggled
09-23-2004, 09:53 PM
does this kill the nutes

The organic elements of pure blend pro have been composted in order to be readily assimilated by the plants,as poured from the bottle i.e. all biological decomposition has already occured. :)

"Pure Blend Pro is derived From:
Fish meal, composted sea bird guano, sea kelp, spirulina, soybean protein extract, rock phosphate, potassium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, calcium carbonate, humic acid*, fulvic acid*, citric acid*, raw sugar cane*, Agrimineral 72 (silica clay extract)*, amino acids*, B-complex vitamins*, and select botanical plant extracts*.
*Non plant food ingredients"

That fish meal and seabird guano would stink to high heaven if not pre- processed as it is.

:)

mrwags
09-23-2004, 09:56 PM
Here you go on the link. i tried everything and this little baby is the only thing that did it correctly. Once my co2 gets done with its cycle I'll post some pics of the install.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=82&item=6120284710&rd=1

mrwags
09-23-2004, 11:04 PM
Ok here are some pics of a pyrex bake around cool tube. This lowered my box 10-12 degrees and it only cost me 1200.00 dollars. Just kidding that is close to what my dumb ass spent trying to find a solution until I found Texas Kids post. Also Kid I posted some pics of my sick girls. They have been at a ph of 5.3 - 5.6 for three weeks. I just flushed with clearex and set ph to 5.9 and ppm at 1150 minus my 250 ppm well water to end up at 900 ppm. Any insight is appreciated and as always taken very seriously.


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Guest
09-23-2004, 11:16 PM
If I am filtering the light correctly, it looks like a nute diffency problem. Cal-Mag introduced into the process should clear up that yellowing of the lowers.

Tex

Guest
09-23-2004, 11:22 PM
I actually learned to grow with hydro. I know ass backwards huh. Just remember problems manifest their selfs faster in Hydro. You will also use more nutes IMHO.

I changed my res every two weeks and had to top off in between. Keep things in constant check, it is a must. All this said, if you master it you won't be sorry. I only switched to soil because it is cheaper for me.

I use PB Pro in my soil garden along with Bog's soil recipe. Never had a problem.

Peace Mo,

mrwags
09-27-2004, 10:52 PM
Texas Kid does it again! 4 days later kid what do ya think. The green is coming back. I babied the nutes a little at first after the flush. I've read that over ferting from the start really shows up 3-4 weeks into flower,is this true. I got them set at about 1050 ppm right now. Ph I left alone and is at 6.0. Will the yellow lowers ever come back? The new growth is coming fine. Cannot wait to convert this thing to ebb & flow. I should lose about 3" of head room but feel the ease of use will be worth it. Plus I feel that these 17 3.7 " net pots I using right now are to small. I can only imagine 30-35 5.5" pots on a flow table in the same space! Thanks again.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102the_girls_054-med.jpg

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Guest
09-27-2004, 11:11 PM
See, ya just have to cuss them bitches out every once in awhile to get them to act right. Tweakin the ph a little doesn't hurt either.

Lookin good Wags, keep up the good growin

Tex