yeild

[steveoi812]

Well I'm sure you guys knew it was coming, a yield question that is.

I have my plants under a 400 watt hps. I was wondering what kind of yeilds you guys have had in the past using your 400 watter? If you would, please tell me the # of plants you grew and the veg time. I

am growing from clone my plants are in veg and they are about 13 inches tall now. They have been trained using Lst, or tying over. Ak-47.

I know that a good benchmark is a half gram per watt of light but I was just wondering how hard it is to obtain this? Is there anyway I could get more? If I switched to my 1000 watt hps during flower would you think that would increase my yeild by a respectable amount...?

[Tunefull]

Hi m8
Everyone's yeild potential is diff(due to varients in set ups)

What size is your grow room?
How many plants you hopeing to grow?

3ft by 3 ft(and say 6ft hi)
Would let u have say 9 plants(without much need for training)

A 400 watter would do ok(i use a 400 watt(my room is same as dimensions i mentioned(but mine is only 4ft hi)))

A single 1000 watter would do better(probs 2x 400 watters be better in a way)
but i would guess,that in a room the size i mention there ould be a lot of heat issue's to control.......


But aye whats your growroom like?(Size wise)

[SmokeRings]

omg.. lets take a look at what you're asking... a baby is squeezed out by its mother, and that second, the father asks the doctor, hey doctor, can you tell me right now how much money my kid is going to earn in life?

you want an answer? 2 zips. Thats how much you're going to yeild. 2 zips.. im psychic and omnipotent, so I know the answer is 2 zips.

[Big Bud Bear]

omg.. lets take a look at what you're asking... a baby is squeezed out by its mother, and that second, the father asks the doctor, hey doctor, can you tell me right now how much money my kid is going to earn in life?

you want an answer? 2 zips. Thats how much you're going to yeild. 2 zips.. im psychic and omnipotent, so I know the answer is 2 zips.
:pointlaug

[steveoi812]

omg.. lets take a look at what you're asking... a baby is squeezed out by its mother, and that second, the father asks the doctor, hey doctor, can you tell me right now how much money my kid is going to earn in life?

you want an answer? 2 zips. Thats how much you're going to yeild. 2 zips.. im psychic and omnipotent, so I know the answer is 2 zips.



HAHAHAHA Everyone loves a smart ass huh? Thanks for your guess though. I was wanting to know around about the average yeild for someone cultivating using a 400 watt stand alone. What their max yeild was, the number of plants and so on and so fourth.

Anyways, i know that there are a thousand variables when it comes to yields. The room I am growing in is probably 12x12. My temps are perfect. My plants are growing as fast as I've seen any others. I am using ff grow big, pure blend pro, liquid karma, I have ten 12-13 inch clones lst style right now. They have plenty of side branches. I have close to 20 clones in the dome right now. I know that I will break out the 1000 watt hps when they root. I am going to try the sog method as soon as I get a few more moms. Thanks

[SmokeRings]

Yes, you've got soo many variables.. there's no 'average', some people can yeild 8 zips and others can yeild 1, there's absolutely no way to tell except to grow them out and see. 2 zips is the very minimum under a 400watt that you should be yeilding. You can also guess by the .5gpw number but that number again is dependant on many x factors... just grow them out and see what you get

[steveoi812]

I am sorry if I am pestering you guys with questions. I am a newb to indoor. I have done searches on the subject of yield here in icmag. I am just, well, nervous I guess. I know that I will get something. I guess something is better than paying for it right? Thanks man and I hope I didnt come off too harsh with the whole "asshole" thing. I have been reading on this site for about two weeks now and all of this info I am taking in is kinda a little hard to handle. I guess I should keep it simple and see what happens. Thanks you guys and I will keep you all posted.

Oh and btw I would still love to hear what 400 watt growers have gotten in the past. :)

[Jam Master Jaco]

Yo yo yo here come's jam givin' his belly a rub//handing down to you the link..to the 400 watt club


http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=656866&highlight=400+watt#post656866

that's the last page of that thread, so just check the other pages of it to get a good idea as to what you could possibly pull off. :wave:

[pieceofmyheart]

You aren't being a pest, it's just that question gets asked so much and it just cannot be answered. You can search 400 watt and see what some others who grew with that wattage were able to yield.

But with so many variables, you just cannot predict. If it is killing you though.......just say you will yield 1/4 oz per plant, that should ne do-able and if it yields more.....then you will be happy. Right?

[SmokeRings]

Tell you what bro here's a link I found for ya to the 400 watt club. Scroll through the thread and you can see what others have done, that might give you an idea of what to expect

http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=21967

[steveoi812]

You guys are great! Thanks!!!

[Socrates]

I've seen people get up to a lb from a single 400 watter, but that is pretty difficult to do; all the conditions have to be just so and it depends on the strain and other factors such as training/scrogging, nutes, temps, etc. I'd say if you don't fuck things up too badly a half-pound (8 ounces) is not an unrealistic goal to shoot for, just as a very general idea - that's about what I got with my first 400 grow, supplemented by a few CFLs. Hope that helps a little.

PS smokerings I think you probably meant omniscient, not omnipotent...if you wanna be a know-it-all, you should at least know the word for being all-knowing. Peace

[hybridtek]

man....so many factors, there's a dude on here that yielded 1 lb from a single plant - chronic, DWC, scrog style....he rocked that grow.

AK is a good yielder, if you have an indica dominant strain vegg a little longer the stretch won't be too bad...you have lst going so that's good. I'd day if you have a 1000w for flowering you can start flowering at 18" and end up with 3' plant at the most (indica Afghani Kush genes) but taller if it's a stronger sativa pheno. AK - is a hybrid I believe and have a flowering time of 55 days.

Id say you can yield 1/2 is good 1/4 is very easy. Off 2 plants. That's at least 2 zones off each plant

[steveoi812]

Hybrid, thanks for the info my brother! 55 days is not long at all, ya know it? I have been thinking of taking more clones off of these girls and just doing a sog type of grow. I just want to see some buds, know what I mean? I am going to keep a few clones alive for mothers, Just incase this is the cherry pheno I have heard so much about. I have to get a few fluros and put em in my closet though.

Thanks hybrid and socrates, you guys rock!!!!!!!!!

[Maj.PotHead]

yes search the 400w clubs thread see the setups and yeilds, my last run under a old 400w hps 10 plants in 20.5 D x 47.75 W x 58 H cab from top of screen to bottom of light was 31.5 inch. scrogged 10 plants no training pulled 300 grams dry

[steveoi812]

You know what? Major? I have reading up on scrog it looks very nice and looks to improve yeilds. I was going to go the easy route and just lst but I scrog looks too good to turn down. I have unlimited room and it looks like it just might work great. Thanks:)

[Maj.PotHead]

You know what? Major? I have reading up on scrog it looks very nice and looks to improve yeilds. I was going to go the easy route and just lst but I scrog looks too good to turn down. I have unlimited room and it looks like it just might work great. Thanks:)
right on kool LST be sure to start training early 3-4 nodes {set of leaves} i hint if im gonna lst usally i'll do on 1st transplant this.now when i transplant i'll place the plant to 1 side of container, this allows for easy better bottom secureing and when tops is pulled over and trained across the whole pot not from middle of pot:). i use 3x3x3in square containers to start seed and clones in heard to over water and they'll hold the plant 2-3 wks n/p. i get mine when i buy 18 count flat of flowers for my yard he he when i start LST i'll secure bottom 1st by tieing off 1.5-2 inch off soil to side of pot and gently pull top over towards other side. i cant stress enough gently i'll pull till i feel resistance then stop i'll adjust everyday the top down till i feel resistance. adjust down to desired effect, if i start lst training early the plants main stem will be 1-2 inch off soil when im in finial pot for flower when plant reachs edge of pot i allow it to grow upwards. now your gonna scrogg kool to increase the amount of budsite at screen the FIM method instead of traditational topn will provide that. in my gallery you'll find tutorials saved from overgrow on LST tutorial by Big Budda and FIM by bud e and bubba 6. my outdoor clones in flower now i FIM'd the sie growths and now each side branch has 4-6 main colas :woohoo:

if you LST/FIM scrogg with some training few wks no problems during
flower = you'll be 1 happy mofo he he :chin: something to think about for sure get the most outta what ya have lol


oh ka forgot the most important thing about FIM
this method will retain a singel cola top but force 3-8 new branchs to grow for more main top colas truely awesome if done wrong no worries ya just topped the plant lol :woohoo:

[Socrates]

I'm sorry Major, I'm a little slow today; are you saying that you both FIM and LST your plants before scrogging them? It seems like that would require a whole lot of veg time. Assuming you're going to run, say, a 5-plant scrog and you want a lot of budsites in a reasonable amount of time, do you think just FIMming them around like the 4th or 5th node is the best way to achieve this? Or, how do you go about preparing your plants for the scrog? 11 ounces dry from a 400 watt says you must be doing something right...

[Maj.PotHead]

I'm sorry Major, I'm a little slow today; are you saying that you both FIM and LST your plants before scrogging them? It seems like that would require a whole lot of veg time. Assuming you're going to run, say, a 5-plant scrog and you want a lot of budsites in a reasonable amount of time, do you think just FIMming them around like the 4th or 5th node is the best way to achieve this? Or, how do you go about preparing your plants for the scrog? 11 ounces dry from a 400 watt says you must be doing something right...yes srry i FIM from an early age at around 5-6 sets of leaves [nodes]hers 3 clones in the ground fim's few times during veg also each side branch growth was FIM'd

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/10245100_1235-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/10245100_1235.JPG)
thats 3 clones in the pic each branch is composed of approx 4-6 main colas on my last grow i averaged 1z per plant the 4 directly under the lighting yielded more
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/1024548_days_flwoer_side_view-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/1024548_days_flwoer_side_view. jpg)
im not jackn thread just showen sampels now 1 thing to keep in mind i didnt LST train the girls just threw screen over them. with LST training i believe i would have hit 1gpw fairly easy as last grow was no problems this round i played with my waters PH. i learned about LST/FIM on overgrow and have used these methods since i believe combined these 2 methods will increase yield potentional

[steveoi812]

Thanks everyone :):):)