Pure Thai Grow

[Guest]

Well I started the Pure Thai seeds that i had. Had to get them going now if i wanted them down for some x-mas smoke and seeds. I started five seeds and all five have popped, they are now in Rapid Rooters and they are starting to come out of the little holes. I've have them in a cloning tray with dome ontop of a heating pad and they are doing well. I'll keep everyone posted on how they are doing. I'm plan to make some F'2 of the Pure Thai and make some crosses with some of the stuff i have now like

LSD#1
NYCD F2 from BOG
Green Giant

I'll be watching for those Hemi's, since this is a Pure Thai and has never been crossed with another else.
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[Guest]

sounds nice... I am crossing/about to cross my BOG LS with POG13xG13bx and BOGNYCD with the POG13xG13bx...
I also have 3 seedling (WWxT44)xPOG13bx going now and many of those to test... I would love to have some thai to work with... you should be making some delicious beans BG...

[Guest]

I'm going to try atleast, we are going to see in about 6 months. I figure about 2 months Veg and 4 months flower time. That should put me ready to give away some beans at the end of summer. I'm also going to cross DJ Shorts BlueBerry as soon as Doc get's it back in stock and Serious AK-47 as soon as Gyspy get's that one back instock. Trying for a BlueBerry Thai and a Cherry Thai if i get lucky and find a Cherry AK in the bunch of seeds i get. Thanks for stopping by
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[Guest]

hey man, where did you get your pure thai? If it is truely "pure" thai, you would not be making F2s if you made seeds. An F1 is the result of two unrelated varietys crossed with each other. If your thai is truely pure, a landrace thai sativa that has never been hybridized your plants would be stable, with no pheno types.


look forward to seeing these babys:)

[Guest]

There always someone saying that we didn't land on the moon. I'm not the one that made them, and i've just started reading through the Marijuana Botany and i'm not up on the F2,F3, F4, F5 and etc. These seeds came from Thailand, they were grown out and crossed with it other. IB, not crosses with the skunk like some seed companies do to stablize them. These seeds are IBL i'm guessing, but they were only crossed with the same bunch of seed that was sent from Thailand. I hope this clears it up for you? Any other questions?
Thanks for stopping by

PS, i don't have the F1 plants, a buddy did. That is why i have to make F2's. I don't have the mother or father to make the F1's, so i got to make the F2's. Has nothing to do with stablity.

[Guest]

A bit touchy are'nt we? A pure landrace sativa has not been an F1 at any point in recent history. What you mean is you would be continuing with the interbreeding of the line. It appears you have alot more reading to do.

cheers;)

[Guest]

Sorry, Slipped on the Ice outside and bang my knee pretty bad. It's already fucked up from my run in with a Tank that ran me over. Didn't mean anything bad about the moon joke. Plus, i'm out of weed so i'm forced to take a Percocet. They make me sick to my stomach. This book is very good, but it's also very dry. I'm guessing that the hemi's should not show up, if i don't stress them? The male was a full male and the female was a full female, so i'm guessing it should be a true plant. Still, this is my first breeding, and i'm worried alittle. Don't want to screw it up. Let me know more info about breeding Outlaw if you don't mind.
Thank again

[Guest]

http://www.cannabisworld.org/vbportal/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=18

Thats a link to the breeders forum at cw, there are alot of very knowledgeable members there who can help you with any question you may have. IfThere is a member at cw(hempy), an expert on sativas and who by chance is growing pure thai as well could answer alot of questions you may have better than I. Good luck billy, Im sure you wont screw anything up.

[Guest]

Thanks, I found Hempy's thread on his Thai.
Thanks again

[samuryusan]

Billygoat, If your saying that you have five pure thai seeds unsexed and growing as we speak and you get at least one male... are you going to breed the male with the female Thai? If ya do I'd love to obtain some of those seeds ! ; ) Of course any cross with the strains mentioned would be accepted too!!! Keep us posted and in mind....Lucky dude!

[Tafari]

Originally posted by Outlaw
If your thai is truely pure, a landrace thai sativa that has never been hybridized your plants would be stable, with no pheno types.




So true, Tafari

[Guest]

Thanks for stopping by, This is what's going to happen. I got five seeds getting ready in the next day or two to pop out of the rapid rooters. They all popped when germed, and when they get big enough to take clones, i'm going to clone them and get straight to sexing. I'm going to read up on the light cycle, some people are saying i might have problems with hemi's if i go the normal 12/12, but as soon as the first cutting roots, they aren't even getting Vegged. They are going straight to flowering, so i can figure out what i have for females,males, and hope not hemi's. If i get a good male and female, you can bet your lucky star's i'm going to make as many seeds from about 75% of the female clones. That should give me a shit load of seeds. I just want to make sure i have some sensi from the same clones that i seeds so i can give a smoke report and report other things, like taste, high, etc. This will help me, on what might have been passed down the seeds that i'll make. Evenone hold tight, I'm sure there will be a lotttt of seeds. I want to make sure i have alot of these seeds to preserved this plant. Some of you know i might be moving to Hawaii, and if that happens. I want to bring my thai with me and be able to grow them outside in Hawaii to show how well they do in the tropic'a, and have some kick-ass smoke. Got to have the Thai to surf the north shore, joking.
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PS= Can someone tell me how to post pictures. I know there is problems write now, but some where it said if you upload to your gallary, then you can link it some how. Any help would be super.
Thanks

[Tafari]

Hey its just in the genetics of thai to go hermi (hermaphrodite) despite the lite cycle. By the way your thai will fill at home in Hawaii wish I could go myself.

Tafari

[samuryusan]

Billygoat , I was hopin you were going to clone those darlin's for sensi smoke and breeding, I especially like the part of lotts of seeds to preserve the species....You will consider leaving us unfortunate midwesterners some before ya say ...Aloha! ;) Best of Luck in everything you are sttin' out to accomplish!

[Guest]

There will be plenty of clones for my program. I'm going to clone the hell out of them and see what i got. The 75% of the clone females are going towards seeds, the other 25% is going to be my smoke. I'm not going to Hawaii just yet. Got about a year and half. If i don't get into grad school there, then i'll stay where i'm at for grad school and be here a total of 2.5 years. Then i'm off to Hawaii to live,surf, find a hot girl, maybe a wife and live the rest of my life surfing, Growing, breeding seeds, and of coarse smoking.

[Guest]

Ok, here are the first pictures. I know they look like every MJ when they are this little, can't wait till they get bigger and see those long thin leaves. Four out of the five are doing well, got one mutant and it's doing well, just don't know if it will straighting out. It really never open the first two leafs when it popped out of the rapid rooter. Will just have to see what happens, but it is strong and doing well.
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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=467


PS, if i don't link the picture right, goto my gallary and you can see them there. Thanks

[samuryusan]

I tried to reply earlier,but the system said I was not logged in, so I hope this is'nt a double post!! Your plants are lookin' goods and I know they'll all be sweet healthy girls (except one,of course).. The photo link ya posted goes work btw !!! The gGreen Giant looks yummy also !!! what's the yield on her and how's the smoke? where does a guy get that strain and is she related to Big Bud like Critical Mass? Keep us updated!!!

[Guest]

Thanks, they are starting off pretty good. As for the Green Giant, you can get them over at Heaven Stairway. They are sold under the seed company Spice Brothers. This strain is from Borthers Grimm. This is what the strain guide over at OG had to say about it "An extremely heavy-yielding Big Bud "mom" which continues to average 40g/sqft produced these when crossed with a stocky Shiva Skunk male. We're impressed with its' yield and the quality of this narcotic smoke." I'll be cutting them down Sat. morning. Looking at about 2-3 oz's per plant. I'm sure i'll do better next run, because i know how to feed them with the nutz, and the clones will do alot better and take up less space, since i'll grow one main cola and cut off all the lower branches. I'll post all the reports later on, once i'm done. As for the Thai, hopefully i'll be able to take clones at the end of March. I'm hoping they will be big enough by then, will have to see.

[samuryusan]

So Ferret can clue me in on the details and nute regimen for a soil grow as I see you're do hydro?Yea, I was just over at overgrow went to plants and bud shots...dude name irish had a top big as a milk jug posted!!! Check it out Thanks again!

[Guest]

They get hugh if you grow them right. I'm sure there's a couple of guys over there that are doing the soil. Just look for the links under sprice brother forums over at CW, and you see all the test growers. I'm hoping the clones get that big on the next run.
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[Guest]

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Feb10-med.JPG
EDIT, sorry, just trying to see could I make your PIC appear, but it seems img tags are disabled. :eek:

[Guest]

Here's a picture of the Thai. Nothing major to report, but they are doing fine and only have one that is a mutant, so will see what happens in about 45 days when i clone them.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=538

[samuryusan]

BillGoat, I was wonderin how the Green giant fems turned out for smoke and yield...I'm itching to get her or one of the crosses!!!

[Guest]

The green giant turned out pretty good. I think i got 7 oz's from four plants, but they were small. These are really good plants for SOG. I was very happy with them and will be doing another run once they are revegged. I have two keepers and will make up my mind once i do a full run of clones in the 3x3 Ebb&Flo table with a total of 25 clones. I think i can get 1 pound from the 600HPS in this setup, but we will see. The GG will be totally dry on thursday and will smoke some on Sat. There is a kickass party that night and i got a special date with a girl from work, she smokes and it should be fun. I did give out a 1/4 to a buddy to put out from a taste test, and everyone loves it. Strong high, "Sleepy", lots of resin, good bag apeal, and nice dense buds. My buddy wants most of it, since everyone that has smoked off of it, says it some of the best stuff they've smoke in awhile. Skunky taste with a hint of sweatness to it, but i'll give you my taste test on Sunday, if i can remember. I'll post a whole new thread once the Green Giant clones get under way, plus i got to do some crossing with them. The LSD#1 will be ready and maybe the NYCD that i got from BOG will be ready, so i'll cross the
Green Giant x LSD
Green Giant x NYCD

Won't have time to test them for awhile,but will get some of the seeds out to some of the members here, and might sell some on c-bay. Plus, i'll have a few contest here to give some away.

[Guest]

hey Billy ...good luck with your Thais - you'll be hearing from me soon man (almost done!) :D

[Guest]

Cool, thanks again Pittbull. Talk to you soon

[Captain Canibus]

Billy-

I hope I can get on your list for some Thai seeds. Its been years.

I'm 1 week shy of geting 6 of 10 classes completed for a Mastrer's. We got 2 active duty military in class, you should listen to their attitude on weed. Takes me back to the days of "Reefer Madness". The only thing worse than an mj conousiuer is a democrat.

Good luck!!!

[Guest]

Ok, alittle update. They are doing really good and should be taking off pretty soon. I'm getting ready to transplant the at the end of the month and put them under a 150hps for awhile. Hopefully buy the end of March i have my cutting taken and rooting in the Rapid Rooters. Will have to see how they grow from now till end of march, but they are doing really well. The Mutant plant has straighten out and is also catching up to the others, so i have a good five Thai's to work with. Here are a few pictures. As for a list to get on, there are a "Few" that is getting seeds before anyone, but everyone just chill and see what happens. There should be plenty of seeds to give out in contests and i'll be posting some on C-bay also, so don't worrie, if all goes well, there should be plenty for everyone. Plenty of crosses also.
Here are a few updated pictures.
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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Feb21a1.JPG

I hate this picture posting, sometimes it works then other times it doesn't. I've resized pictures also. Let's get a better way to do this.

[samuryusan]

The thai's are comin' along nicely...just goes to show ya that a handful of talent will carry the patient man futher down the path of goodness than a bucketful of luck!!

[Peg Leg Pete]

Wow that's great hopefully thoes turn out like the thai I hear so much about from my pop. Have you tried any of the smoke mabe from another grower? Sounds like you got a nioce life planed out. Hopefully no hermies. I want so seeds. Good luck

[Guest]

patient is going to be hard, but i know in the long run it will be worth every day of it. I haven't tried any of this strain, got them pretty much as a test batch of them. I've heard from the person i got them from. That they are a pain in the *ss to grow inside and breed with, but i'm sure i can handle the grow, or do my best trying. I'm getting ready to put them under a 600HPS with the NYCD F2's i got from BOG. They should take off after a few weeks. That should get them big enough for me to take clones and start sexing them to see what i have. I'm hoping for 50/50, so i can have a better choice for crossing. I know i should have larger numbers for the breeding, but i don't have the space now and this will have to due. I'll post some pictures tomorrow after i tape up the grow area with the plastic. I got to divide the room, so not to interrupt the harvest of BigBud and Bubblegum that will be ready in two weeks. They are doing well and are trucking along. I'll have pictures tomorrow for everyone.
Thanks

[coriander]

Thai is friggin awesome- some say better than haze! Mega-cool nickname also Billygoat - hehe !!! keep it real - respect
R-E-S-T-E-C-P

[Guest]

Here's a picture on one of the baby's. They are still young and should start to grow faster here shortly. The leaves should start getting longer also. The next month is going to be fun, because they should kick into high gear very soon.
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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Feb29.JPG

[Peg Leg Pete]

they are coming along nicely. keep us posted

[Guest]

I'll try, It would be nice if i could post pictures in here and not links. This really sucks, hope they get it fixed.
Later and Thanks

[Peg Leg Pete]

Billy do you have an acout at og? Are you sharing you grow with people over there?

[Guest]

Yes, I have an account over at OG and CW. Still go to both of them, since i have friends at both.

[Captain Canibus]

I've heard those babies can get to be 20 feet tall. Will you just keep choping them back.

[Guest]

Yes, I'll keep cutting them back till the stretching is done. I'm going to be working with clones, so as soon as they root they with be switched to 12/12. This should help them alot. I'm hoping for the best, but will see in a few months.
Thanks

[Guest]

Ok, here are some new pictures. They are doing good, and notice they are starting to stretch now. Can't wait till they get big and older to see those leaves get long and thin. I'm hoping to take cutting around the 20th of this month. I might just top them if there isn't enough side branching to get clones from then. Atleast i can sex the tops and see what i have then. Here are the pictures.
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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1156&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1157&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

[Guest]

LOOKIN' Good BG!

[Guest]

Their getting there. Can wait to see them in about a month. They should be looking really nice by then.
Thanks

[Guest]

Ok, alittle update as they are growing pretty good now. They are starting to branch out pretty well and are on their 4-5 node. The only thing that i might be very pissed about is the Plant in general. Take a look at the leaves, i don't know about you but i would think the leaves to be alot skinnier then what they are and alot longer. I'm thinking i might have gotten the wrong seeds. I'd like to hear from anyone and everyone that has grown any of the Thai's. Do the leaves get long as the get older, or did i get the wrong batch of seeds?
Thanks

For everyone that is following this thread. No worries as i got some Super Thai x Skunk from High Quality seeds and will start those if these don't look like the Pure Thai that they are suppose to be. I hope i'm wrong, because i'm going to be really pissed if they are not
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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Mar6a.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Seeds.jpg

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Mar6.JPG

[Captain Canibus]

BG-

Your'e second pic (leaf close up) looks a little fat. I don't proclaim myself as a Thai expert, but it seems most plants as they mature the leaves tend to get longer and skinnier. You'll have a good idea in a month. Good luck!

[Guest]

I hope so, I'll be very pisses if it isn't. I would think they are long and skinny from the start, but i also could be wrong. If they aren't i got the other seeds that are a Thai x skunk and i guess they will have to due. I'm going to have to talk to my buddy to see what is up with these.
later

[Guest]

Let's see if the picture posting is fixed.

Group shot


http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Mar_7_Group.JPG

[Ono Nadagin]

Thai is not hermie prone due to genetics per say, it is that most of us grow it in an enviroment that is far from what its evolutionary genetic make up has predisposed it to...... oe Thais do very well with a bit of UVB light as well as the normal UVA.

that along with dialing in each thai strains nute reqs and changing up the light cycle a bit will allow you to grow many thai strains that are considered to difficult or problematic with relative ease

Also dont fret the fat leaves until they continue much past the 8th node or into florewing..... also there are Thai Indicas, they are just dar less common as everyone wants the soaring highs of a thai sativa

[Guest]

Well it was pretty close to the eight node. they are at the seventh now and i'm thinking it's not even the Thai i thought i was getting, but if it is Thai and an Indica. This would be the first i've heard of it, but i've seen pictures of the Thai i was suppose to get and mine don't look anything like the parents. So, i'm going to grow them out still and see what i get. The person that sent me the seeds from the start said he might have sent me the Thai x Skunk cross. What i got looks more Indica then any ThaiSkunk cross, but will see what happens with the clones. I took all but one plant. I have five different sets of cuttings waiting for the roots to pop. I'll clone the last one, onces it get alittle bigger. Here a picture of the last plant that needs to be clone. Doesn't look like any thai i've seen.
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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Mar14-med.JPG

[Peg Leg Pete]

Look a little indica. Are they in flower? I just skipped to the last page. If they aren't maby flowering will snap them out of that indica leaf structer. Thai is suposed to have a real skinny leaf. I had so much hope for thoes plants. Hopefully not all is lost. Mabe they will turn out to be nice plants anyways.

[Guest]

No, they are not in flowering yet. I'm going to take clones then place the clones into flowering once they are ready. I got more of the seeds on the way. I'm getting the real deal this time around. There was a major mess up when they were sent, but this time around i'll have some pure thai. Who knows what these will do once they are in 12/12. The leaves should be long and skinny, but they look Indica to me. I have some Super Thai x Skunk also. I might get those started and see what i get from those. I'm going to find a good Thai and cross them and make F2's. Just this mess up that is going to throw everything off. I still got some other stuff that is going to be good.

Serious Ak-47
Hawaiian Haze
Mango
DJ Short's Blueberry
another run of Green Giant
Super Thai x Skunk

These should keep me going for awhile. These crosses will make nice Christmas Gifts.
Thanks for stopping by.

Sorry, also forgot about some very nice members that sent me some
POM G13 x G13 F2
GHaze's F2
These should also be a nice run of strains.

[Ono Nadagin]

the 8th Node is not set in stone.... but if you dont see a change in the leaves by the time they are stretching from being put into flower, it would be faily safe to assume it is a thai indica or it is a thai hybrid.

I grew out ThaiTanic and it had wide leaves so dont worry to much... if and when it makes you forget your name when you smoke it is when judgement should be passed :)

[Guest]

lolllll, forget my name. I hear you on that one, let's hope it's not to trippy if it is Thai. Some people can't handle it. I know alot of people that just smokes Indica, because they can't get any sativa, but when i grew out some Hawaiin x Skunk and NL x Hawaiian Sativa, they were freaking out. Will see what happens, i'm not going to kill them. I'll grow them out and see what happens.
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[Hashmasta-Kut]

you grew out thai-tanic ono? i got one going.. it is medium wide leaf 8 weeks into bud very stretched(long internodes) , i had to tie it up at 7 weeks.... how long did you keep yours budding? what plant structure did it have..>? it showed capitate trichomes at 6 weeks. fortunately the clones lived( took forever to root).

[Guest]

Good news everyone. I was sent the wrong seeds. My buddy sent them to someone else by mistake and they to started growing them out and got a big surprise. He is sending me more very soon, so as soon as they are in my hand. Hopefully by next week the latest, they will be germing. So, not to worry every body the crosses are hopefully make it before Christmas, so i can mail some gifts out. Thanks Ono Nadagin for stopping by and your help. Hashmasta-Kut. thanks for stopping by also with your Thai cross. I've talked to amsterdam before and have seen pictures he's posted of that strain you are growing. I plan on visiting him this cup in Nov. and hopefully seeing some of his plants in Amstedam. That would be the one i would grow if i didn't have access to the pure thai.
later and good luck

[Ono Nadagin]

I let my ThauioTanics(3Phenos)go for a long time some were pulled at around 8 weeks and the two others went at 10 and 12ish

Allof mine showed a wider than I expected leaf structure all though out the grow, wich I just took as a sign of it being a cross.

Out of the 3 phenos I would only call one a keeper and that was the 10 weeks plant it was much less of a stretcher with larger buds than the others and its smoke hd a very spicey taste that I loved and it was a very rushy up high for about 5-10 min then it couch locked you but good ....

the quickest of the phenos was a very stretchy plant that put on a bunch of little golf ball nugs anf very few fan leaves so the yeild bit even with using all the trim for bubble......... it also had a slight spicey taste but no where near the 10week opheno

and the 12 week plant was probably pull to early, I was tired of waiting on it as I hafd other clones ready to og in and it was stretchy as could be with a bit larger buds thn the 8 week pheno with more of them, but I got tired of waiting imho that one could have gone for another 2-4 weeks easy and I wont keep a plant like that as I have no place to grow it indoors or out


This is what I got 5 or 6 seeds , I am not sure how much of the pack I germed

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i think i got lucky then... cuz its got big buds and isnt ready yet at 8 weeks , but i cant see it going 12... :) wish me luck.

[Ono Nadagin]

My favorite of the 3 had larger buds than the others by far, but it didnt live up to the 'tanic'........

I have seen giant buds off of others thaitanics... mine just didnt live up to that, but I was pleased with the smoke .... it had a great spicy taste and got me good and stoned

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i dont care too much about hugeness.. huge stone is my main goal... :)


ps thanks for the informative dialogue... most excellent ~(*:*)~

[Hashmasta-Kut]

did you get 11 bladed leafs on all phenos?

[cannabinol]

I grew out Thai last year, in Spain. The report, from seed to weed is here:
http://www.hempcity.net/travelreports/11strains2003/thaisinse/index.html

[Guest]

Is this Nol van SThaik, becasue if it is. I've been read a bunch of article about you and i'm honored you stopped by. Also, i'm going to be in Granada, Spain next summer for about a month and would love to come by Club and meet up with you. Read the article in CC and love every bit of it. Thinking while i'm there i might by some land and do some surfing, if i can find some waves. Thanks for stopping by Nol, if it's you.

As for my Thai, they are not. Mine didn't look anything like yours and was sent the wrong beans. I have more on the way and hope to get them started asap. Hope everything is going well at the club you open and all. PM me and let me know where the place is at, and i'll drop in when i'm down next summer.
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[Hal Jordan]

BillyGoat, I'm enjoying this thread very much. Keep up the good work.:D

[Guest]

Thanks, I'll try. You do the same and have fun. I used to grow Hawaiian Sativa inside, boy was that fun.
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[cannabinol]

Hi BG,

yes it is me, Nol van Schaik, my name is often spelled a little weird. I have some new Thai´s up from the same stock, this year I will try to cross some with one of the other 18 strains I have up for this summer.

hope we will all harvest in peace...

[Guest]

cannabinol, good luck on all your crosses and i hope everything turns out well with them. I also hope everything is going well in spain for you and the others there. Keep us post on your grow and some pictures.

Take care

[Guest]

Update

I got good news today. I got my Pure Thai beans in today. These are suppose to be the Pure Thai and not the crosses i got before. I'll be starting them tonight, so keep an eye open. I'll update when they pop.
Later

[Guest]

Glad to hear you got them finally, great luck w/ your grow...

[Guest]

Thanks, got them in a ziplock bag as of noon EST. They should be poppped by noon tomorrow or at least by around 8pm tomorrow night. I'll post the results of the germ rate.
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PS, Got a TrainWreck clone in the mail a few days ago. Will be crossing that strain also.

[Guest]

Good news, out of the five Pure Thai that i germed. I got four so far that are popping out of the jiffy pellet. One is very strong and already pushing a root shot out the bottom. Let's hope these are the right beans this time. Should be able to tell in a few week. Here are the babys.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Pure_Thai_April2-thumb.JPG
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[truecannabliss]

i am relatively new to growing and am currently growing some oxacan sativa (mexican) amongst other things. it will be interesting to see how they compare, what do you plan on doing with them? i.e to control height, time in veg? etc.

[Guest]

Morning all, Just got done transplanting the four into cups and got them under the fluro's. As for what i plan to do with them. I will grow them out and as soon as they are biggy enough for cloning, I will clone them. Some will stay inside and others will be going outside, but they will be sexed before going outside. I got to many different strains going outside and i don't want them pollenated by the Thai. I will make seeds inside to control them better. I'll try for a SOG and see how that works. I'm sure i'm going to top them many times, so that will end up with a SCROG grow with all the tops. We will just have to see how they grow and how fast. First, let's just hope i got the right seeds this time. After Easter i should have some nice pictures of them. They should be big enough to tell, some what if they are the Pure Thai.
Thanks

[Guest]

Ok, here is a new picture of the Thai seeds that popped. I have a total of four seedlings, but on is a runt and will see if it makes it. These look more like Thai then the last seeds i popped and think i might have the right ones this time areound, but they are still young to be 100% sure. The leaves are allot skinner then the last ones. So far they are doing very well and will get transplanted tomorrow. I should be able to take a couple of clones sometime next month. Let's hope for one male and female so i can make some seeds for a contest i would like to run.
later

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_April_13-thumb.JPG
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[Guest]

yah, thems look more like a nice sativa... Looking forward to watching this groww... :D Drop any of them G13bx f2's yet?

[Guest]

Thanks, I was thinking the same. They look more like a Sativa then the last ones. I haven't drop any of them yet. Got some Blue Satellite #2 on the way and might do those, but i might just wait for those. I'm thinking about the G13 x G13 and cross the best Female with the Thai if i get lucky and get a Male. Been busy taking clones for a 200 + grow. Got about the first 50 rooted and will take another 50 this week, so that project is taking up the room for now. Got a mix of
NYCD
LSD#1
Green Giant, two different plants
TrainWreck, Clone from a NoCal source

Been busy after Easter. Might do the G13 or might be the BS #2 not sure yet. These babies will be grown inside and maybe a few will go outside to see if they can finish in time, but only 2 or 3. I hope i can find one of each to at least make seeds and be able to cross to the other NYCD, LSD#1, Green Giant, and maybe the G13 around July.
Later

PS It looks like i'm on track for X-mas. Want to have most if not all crosses done for X-mas gifts to the people who have been nice to donate gifts for the crosses. Should make for some nice stocking stuffers.

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Originally posted by BillyGoat
Ok, here is a new picture of the Thai seeds that popped. I have a total of four seedlings, but on is a runt and will see if it makes it. These look more like Thai then the last seeds i popped and think i might have the right ones this time areound, but they are still young to be 100% sure. The leaves are allot skinner then the last ones. So far they are doing very well and will get transplanted tomorrow. I should be able to take a couple of clones sometime next month. Let's hope for one male and female so i can make some seeds for a contest i would like to run.
later


lets cross all our fingers shall we.. :)

[Guest]

I'm back, sorry it's been awhile but been busy with other grows. Here are some updated pictures, i still think the leaves are as long and skinny as they should be for a pure Thai, but i'm going to ride them out and see what happens. They look alittle droopy because i just sprayed them with some water and Epson salt. The leaves were starting to curl upwards and thought it might be a Mag problem. I'm going to take cuttings next week and then root them. I will sex them and go from there. I got two really strong plants and one ok one. I'll update more as it happens. Got a bunch of other strains going and there will be plenty of crossing if i can just find one good male.
later
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[Guest]

Well, I'm thinking there not pure. I think they might have something else in them. Here's a closer shot at one of the fan leafs. It's not like any thai i've seen, but they are starting to stretch out. Better then the first batch of seeds i got. I'd like to hear what others thoughts are on this. Any ways, if i find a good male and female, seeds are still in the works. If there is a good male, well he will be paired up with my other females
LSD#1
NYCD
Green Giant
TrainWreck

Fun, fun, fun
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[Guest]

Here's to hoping that from amongst your Thai cross babies, you find that magical Thai dominant Pheno... The trainwreck should cross with one nicely... :D

[Guest]

Hopfully i find a nice male, because the Trainwreck has Thai in it and will mate up well. I'm pretty sure i saw someone say and talk about the Thai infulence in the TrainWreck. It will be a nice cross and it's going to be fun trying to pollenate as much as i can, so i can get alot of beans for the Christmas gifts that will be going out.
later

[tricky]

does any 1 have any thai seeds as i can not forget the high of thai stick weed one of my all time fav smokes tricky :D

[med_breeder]

billygoat,
those "wrong seeds" that your buudy sent you, look very right to me. I know you were dissappointed that it wasn't a thai, but those are some reallyhealthy looking indicas.
I hope they turn out great. and also the thai seeds you got, good luck.
I'll be watching this thread.



peace,

mb

[Guest]

Thanks, I still think the second ones are crosses with something. I think they should be very thin and longer. Maybe this is the Thai Skunk, because i he does have a cross of it. Maybe some pollen infected the wrong plant, but they are looking good. This morning i stripped them and took my clones from the two best plants. The third one should be ready for cloning by Friday. Now, once they are rooted they will go into 12/12 and i will keep one clone from each plant at 24 on lights, to use for crossing. I should know the sex no later then the end of the month, then that's when the fun begins.
Thanks

[zeppelindood]

i just finished up a thai skunk cross
here she is for your viewing...

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/507/1330Thai_1-thumb.JPG
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[Guest]

Well this morning i checked my cutting tray and saw that the first of the Thai cuttings have popped some roots. Here is a picture of them. These are the first two strongest of the three and plant number three will be ready to take cuttings by Friday. Here is a picture of Plant number 3 fan leafs. Looking more like Thai then the first batch of seeds a ran before. I noticed as they get older and bigger the leafs get longer, more like the Thai you see in other pictures, but for some reason when their young they look like normal MJ plants. Thing are going good now and all i got to hope for now is one of the three plants be a good male, so let's keep hoping. If i get a good male, the crosses will be on time and i should have most if not all crossing done before X-mas. Let's hope that everything goes well.

Zeppelindood, I've seen you pictures before. You been posting them all over. Glad to see your very happy with them. I have the same seeds sitting in my Bean jar and haven't had the time to grow them out. Maybe sometime next year, I'll get around to them. From what i saw, they could have gone later, but they still looked good. You should do a run that goes longer and see the difference in smoke. I heard its a different high from harvesting it early. Good Job. To bad the server lost most of our pictures.
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[omega7]

Hey billygoat what part of thailand are the seeds from? Im assuming you got them on vacation there? if you dont know its cool. Just wondering cause a good friend of mine goes there every couple years and well this is one of those years, so he's collecting beans for me. I told him to keep track of the region if not the exact location(village name etc). Ill keep you in mind when I grow them out. maybe throw you a female or male clone for your breeding project. Lets just hope my buddy is successful, he doesnt know much about seeds and even though I taught him all I know before he left, to get the seeds he has to buy stuff and that leads to smoking so he might be too fucked to do anything. He did get a sticky stinky giant quarter bag for $7 though. he got so stoned he sat in an ant hill and didnt realize until they were covering him and biting the hell outta him.....haha

[zeppelindood]

yeah billy i guess i am quite proud of that batch. i am excited to see what your thai are all about so keep the details coming. i hope that its extream expando ~

[Guest]

omega7 = All i know is that they did come from Thailand. They were sent to the USA then they were grown out and a male and female were selected and grown out. I don't know where they might be from, but they are starting to look more like the real deal. I'm trying to plan a trip to bangkok and maybe do some surfing. Just don't know how safe it might be these days. With all the shit going on and seeing that american get his head cut off, kind of makes you think for awhile. I can handle myself, but when someone pulls an AK or a Knife on you, things change. I'm looking into some surfing trip in Asia and if i figure out a some what safe place to go. I'll be buying up every seed i can get my hands on. The trips that are already planned and in the works are Cannabis cup this year. Will be in the dam from NOV 19-26, then that summer following the cup, I'll be in Spain surfing and checking out a few grows and buying some Spanish local seeds. Hopefully this summer i can work out a week or two trip to Asia, but i'll have to see.

[HarryNugz]

These seeds are very viable. I started some in two marked spots (as i have two packs of 10) so i can tell if they are the correct beans or not. The next morning the first seed already broke the shell! The second day two more in the next spot broke their shell.

As far as big leaves go on pure Thai, i have a pic or two somewhere of a pure Thai that has large first set leaves. As Thais get more developed, the leaves take on the classic thin blades.

[Guest]

I noticed mine have started to get thinner as they get older. Just took the clones and should have the last of them rooted very soon.

[Guest]

Well, the clones are rooting well. They should be ready for one of the Ebb&Flo table in a few weeks. Today i got an order of Cherry Thai in from RM. Had to go though HS since SD doesn't carry the full line. I had buying seeds outside of SD, maybe they will get the full line later on. Here is the low down on the Cherry Thai



Indoor/Outdoor


Cherry Bomb X Oregon Purple Thai, Talk about flavor and soaring high. Medium yielding connoiseur buds, the infamous cherry bomb crossed with the building block of blueberry, OPT. This F-1 has winner written all over it. Moderate yield.

Specifications: Flower: 8-9 weeks ~ Harvest: Mid. Oct. ~ (10 seeds)


I don't know when i might get to these, but you can bet they are going to be at the top of the list. I might start these after i get back from this years Cup. I'll post some pictures of the Thai clones soon. They are looking more like the long thin leafs as they should.
Later

[zeppelindood]

billy ~ that oregon purple thai is a dreaming assripper ~ i couldn't even say my name i was so toasted after half a bowl.

[Guest]

Well, I guess once i get them going. I'm going to be one happy guy once their done. I'm sure they will be tasty, just wondering how much they will taste like the cherry Bomb.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Cherry_Thai.JPG

[Guest]

Ok, good news. The Thai's look good and they are looking more like Thai evvery day. I'm almost 100% sure these are Thai. The dam clones are taking off in the cup's and growing to the roof. I'm getting ready to transplant and get them in the Hydro table very soon. This is when i'm going to sex them and hope for one good male for crossing. I got three different plants, so let's hope for one of each. Here are some new pictures.
Later
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[Guest]

:D

[Slowmoe]

Billy Goat you amaze me. You got so much good shit going. I am following all your threads and learning much from you. HAPPY you must be when you are checking out your grow. Keep it coming.
Safe growing to all Slowmoe

[Guest]

Thanks, I do have alot going. Wait till i get out of school and buy my house. Then i don't have to worry about land lords. I already got the blue prints ready for my sercret hide room. It should be cool, and it will house the Mini Colisum units. It will be a cool grow and let's not forget the solar system i'm going to be adding to the roof, so i can pump up the wattage and not get nailed by the electric company and help as a heat source for any choppers that might fly over. The solar pannels will shield the grow from choppers during the day and the grow won't show up on white or dark hot thermo's. I will not have any light on past afternoon times, just so there is no heat source at night. :) I think everyone will like that thread, once i'm up and running.
Thanks

[Guest]

Afternoon everyone, I'm in the middle of transplanting the clones over to the 2x2 table now and thought i would take a break and update the thread alittle. Here is one of the clones and the rest are looking good. I'd got to say these are the real deal, becasue they are stretching to the roof already and the leaf's are looking good and the color is a nice light green, not drak like some of my other strains, but a nice green. I'll update more after i'm done my work.
later
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[Guest]

Ok, I got all the clones transplanted into the Ebb&Flo table. I got a total of 8 clones in the table and at least one of each plant. So i have three different plants i took clones from and hope to find one male and one female. Let's hope for at least one of each. I also have a runt that has came back from the dead, but i'll figure out what i'm going to do with that one later. I was drinking a snapple and what do i find under the cap. The word Thailand means "Land of the Free" is that karma or what! Well it's a waiting game now and I hope to see signs of sex in a week or two.
Stay Tune
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[Guest]

Good News, Good News. Today i checked the Thai's and i have one female and one male. They showed their presex and are doing good. I have one clone that hasn't shown anything and should show something soon. I'm very happy that i have a male, now let's hope it's a true male and not a hemi. The same goes for the female also. I'm going to keep the best clone of the male in there to make seeds from the female Thai and also the female TrainWreck clones that are in there. I don't know what will come from a Female TrainWreck x Male Thai, but i'm sure it will be good. I've got keeper's already, so i can hang onto the male Thai and female, now i got to make sure they are true. I'm going to keep some pollen to pollenate some green giants that just started budding and will also have some seeds of a Female Green Giant x Male Thai, should be nice. Here's picture of the male Thai. Sorry the picture isn't better, but i need to buy a new camera with a zoon lens and super macro. Talk to you members later.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Male-med.JPG

[Guest]

Mmmmm...... a "Railroad Thai" sounds like an interesting cross.

Real heady and cerebral

Tex

[Guest]

Sounds like a cool name, might have to sent you some copyright beans for that one :)

[Guest]

Will work for beans

Or maybe "Railroad Crossing"

I don't know "Railroad Thai" sound really good.

Yeh, I would love a little "Railroad Thai" in my garden.

Keep it green

Tex

[Guest]

Ok, here' the best and fastest male so far. The other male is catching up but, look alittle different. I'm going to use the pollen from the both of them and see what we get. Here is some updated pictures from today. All is going well, I'm alittle worried about pollen flying all over the place and was wondering if anyone knew when i might see the first sack opening up. DOn't want to seeds all my Green Giants in the next table.
Thanks
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[Guest]

Some of the larger flowers look to be only days from opening...Keep a real close eye on them...Lookin Good :D

[Guest]

Thanks, they formed very fast. I have one more male from a different plant and it is forming pretty nice. I think i'm going to tirm them tomorrow morning and bag them. I've got keepers of every plant kickin in some pot's, so there isn't a problem of taking more clones. Glad to see your hanging around Grat3fulH3ad. The first to get cross will be the Green Giant next to them and

Thai Female
TrainWreck Female

These will be the first to get crossed that are flowering "now"

I also have Blue Satellite #2 clones waiting to go into the 12/12 rotations after the Green Gaint is done, and the Green Goddess seeds that i won in the contest. They are getting big and should find a good female and male for crossing also. Things are looking good and i'm on track for having all the crosses done. I'm hoping to have a mountain of beans to share. Well got to go, thanks for the help.
Later

[Guest]

Well, i noticed a few sacks have open up and release pollen on the first Thai. I took a shot glass and clipped the sacks off and used a artist paint brush and painted up some lower buds on one of my good Green Giants. They are about 45 days out and should produce some good seeds, if the pollen is good. When the next sacks open up, which i think will be tonight or tomorrow. I'll be pollenating the female Thai for some seeds, then the TrainWreck. I might put the Green Giant in the 2x2 with the rest of the female and males, to make sure i get a bunch of seeds. The 2x2 is going to be just a seed harvest. I'll pick through the buds for all the seeds, but this is personal stash. Just got to make sure it doesn't mess up my Green Giant harvest in the 3x3. Well, for all you nice people that have been waiting the long time like me. It is now here, pollen is being produced. When about 75% off the sacks have open. I'll be chopping down the males to make more room for the light to hit the females. We want a good seed harvest. OH, i'm using Pure Blend Pro and Cal-Mag Pro and Liquid Karma, so for a natural harvest. No chemicals in this harvest. Stay tune, there will be alot of crosses from this harvest

Male Thai x Female Thai
Male Thai x Female TrainWreck
Male Thai x Female GreenGiant

Plus, i'm going to be saving the pollen for the Blue Satellite #2 that will be placed in the 3x3 once the GG are done.

Male Thai x Female Blue Satellite #2
Later

[Guest]

:D :D Off and running now... I knew those sacks looked damn near ready... Happy Impregnating :D

[Guest]

You called it, but i think they still have some time till the major amount of them open. Man, i didn't know a male plants can manture this fast. From the first sign, it's been maybe a week or two. You learn something every day. I'll be glad once the pollenation is done, so i can cut down the males. They make me very nervese. The first beans should be done in 45 days. Then dry them out some, boy will i be happy to see those babies. :)

[Guest]

I love it when a plan comes together

BG the porn master sexin up those plants.

Tex

[Guest]

The males evolved to start pollenating early, and keep making pollen for quite a while... One of the first males I grew out caught me completely by supprise when the first ball 'dropped'.:eek:

[Guest]

Lolllll, Well i'm going to pull the Green Giant clone that i'm using for that cross and put here in the middle of the two males. She going to get double teamed :) The 2x2 is nothing but a seed crop for all that is being used for crossing. That means, i'm going to have some time picking out all the beans. I'll just sit in front of the TV and sort them out UNSTONE. Don't want to mix them up and not know what is what. Boy, am i glad i found a couple of males. I was worried that there was going to be Hemi's. Karma is on my side.
Very Thankful :)

[Guest]

I was very surprise after lunch to see two sacks fully open. It's all cool and I'm going to use them up. Making sure to cover all the females and save the rest for the Blue Satellite #2.

[Capt. Crip]

Hey friend,I'm getting ready to hit my Neville's Haze with a Blue Satellite male if you think you might be interested,Maybe we could make a trade or something.Take care................CC

[Guest]

WoW, Nevilles and Blue Satellite. That's going to be a very nice cross. Who was the Nevilles from?

[Capt. Crip]

BUT,I do have 18 females to choose from.They all look like the originals.I've heard excellent results from others who grew these out.Blue Sats. are originals.Take care....................CC
I also have Super Silver Haze on the way from Greenhouse stock and plan to cross it to Neville's and the Satellite's.Take care.........................C C

[Guest]

Sounds like some super stuff you got Capt. I've heard super things about SSH from green house. Very good yielder and nice high. I knew alot of people that grew it for sale and did super by it.

Good news everyone, WE GOT SEEDS. Yes, today after transplanting my Green Goddess plants that i won the seeds from the Contest. I did my rounds and was inspecting the Thai's for more pollen and looked over at the Green Giant Clone that i'm using for seeds. I noticed the second signs that the pollen took. White seeds can be seen forming. I knew the pollen took, because the hairs turned brown and died, then the sacks, looked to be getting hard with something inside. Well, here a picture and it's not my best. I can't wait to get my new camera. I don't want to take the plant out of the table, because i don't want pollen flying every where, but you can see the little white spots at the end of the pen. That is the seeds forming. Boy, am i a very happy camper today.
Take care everyone.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Green_Giant_x_Thai_Seeds-med.JPG

[Guest]

Good show BG

Congrats on the beans, your a father.

Tex

[Guest]

You don't even now how happy i am right now :). I was so worried that i was going to do something wrong and wasn't going to able to produce any seeds, but it shows you that anyone can do this. I've been using a art fine paint brush and it's been working great. Now, let's hope for the TrainWreck and Female Thai. I've been hiting up all the TrainWreck clones and female Thai's very heavy and should see some signs shortly. Smile from ear to ear. :)

[Guest]

:D oh happy day :D

[Guest]

Yes it is, a very happy day.

[Guest]

If bees can do it.....

Tex

[Guest]

Here is a group shot of the Thai and TrainWreck. Also here is a piciture of the one female that i got. Boy, was a very lucky on this one and also getting two males.

Texas Kid= Here are also some picture for you on the NYCD. This is the keeper i have and I think you get the picture of what my keeper can do. This was also harvested early, so i'm sure they could get bigger.
Later
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[Guest]

Awesome BG

That keeper looks exactly as described "a keeper"

Tex

[Guest]

Thanks, I think that cola measured very close to 2 foot. I think it was 22" and that is the meat of the cola, not a BS space between bud sites. You'll be very happy with her, i know i am. I'll be firing up another run in the 2x2 when the Thai is done. Got to buy some fresh carbon to recharge my scrubber. Very smelly NYCD, but in a good way. :)

[Guest]

Ok, new picture of the Female Thai's. They are doing very well and are showing signs of seed pods. So, i'm going to have some seeds. The buds are also forming pretty well and the smell is nothing like i've smelled before. I'm still thinking to nail the smell down. Can'r figure out what it smells like yet, but the smell is starting to change as the flowering get along. Here is a picture of them. Sorry, but i can't get good picture with the camera i got now. WHen i get my new camera, i'll be able to zoom in for awesome shots.
Later
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Female_Thai_6-16-med.JPG

[Guest]

Good show bro

Love that Thai

Tex

[Guest]

Thanks, Man it a hot MF today. Had to do some running around to get some supplies and get ready for the green giant grow to finish in a month and move things around. They are doing pretty well and notice in the last couple of days the female Thai have started to ready produce the bud sights. Next time i do any breeding, its going to be in another room and i'll be wearing a space suite. Should have tons og Green Giant x Thai seeds. The Female Thai's are showing seed pods, but i might have pollenated them to ealry, but we will see how they turn out. One thing for sure, i kept my males and will have access to cutting for breeding at anytime. The TrainWreck is also showing signs of seed pods, but don't know how well it took. Will see in about a week or two. The smell of the Thai is changing and i can't figure it out yet. Hopeful in a week or two i can describ it, but it's nothing that i've ever smelled in cannabis before. Never smoked Thai, so i can't compair it.
Got to go, later

[Rabbitt-420]

So you have accidently pollentated the thai with trainwreck or did you purposely do it ?

[Guest]

I pollenated them on purpose. I want to see what i could get out of the TrainWreck Female and Male Thai. I think it will be a very trippy high and the TrainWreck should bring down the flower time on the Thai. This TW is done in 42-45 days, so that helps. The problem was the table next to the 2x2 that i had all the female clones in for crossing. Some how the male pollen made its way over to the other table. No big deal, just more seeds then i was planning for. It's all fun and I should have plenty for some contest to give away to members here.

[Satans pal]

I just got done with some LSD I pollinated, only wanted a branch, but got some on other parts of the plant too. Is this your first time breeding? Was'nt sure. Its my first time and it was fun to watch the seed pods grow, knowing that you made them(kinda):D You look like your doing a great job BG, keep it up, cant wait to see how your contest turns out:D SP

[Guest]

First time i've chosen the plants to breed, but have made seeds outside by just letting everything go on it own. It was fun, but i will build a breeding room later on once i buy my new house or have one built. Something where i can keep just the plants together and not worry about pollenating other plants. Plus i'll wear one of those body shop white zip up suites, so i don't carry pollen to another room, but that is down the line some. I'll get permissiona then post some contests for member to get some of these seeds. It won't be till they are dry and germ tested, but that won't take long.
Later

[Guest]

Ok, here is a better updated picture of two of the female clones i got going and are seeded. They are doing well and i think the keep i have can grow one main cola most of the way up, but i'll have to see on the next run. This are a very hardly strain and have been through some stuff and are still doing well. Here are the pictures
Later
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http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/636-18_Thai_Top-med.JPG

[freeda green]

That's some nice work Billy Goat! Thanks for sharing!

:wave: Freeda Green

[Guest]

Thanks, Freeda. They ar doing pretty good, but this was just the sexing and seeding. Once i get my rotation set for the next few harvest. Then i can figure out when i can run a full batch of unseeded clones of this Thai. I think this plant can do really good inside and yield a nice amount of smoke for indoors. I'll let everyone know how well the are doing from week to week. They should start really producing some buds, since today i changed over the nutz and bumped them up some. As for the others that are crossed with the male Thai from these. Let's say the Green Giant x Thai is looking really good and so is the Thai x Thai. the Train Wreck isn't looking that good. I mean not that many seed pods from what i can see, but it is still very early to tell for sure, but i'll keep everyone posted.
Later

[Highlighter]

Awesome work, beautiful results!

[Guest]

Thanks, there turing out pretty nice so far. Can't wait to see the in another 30 days. I'm guessing around another 60 days total, but i'll have to see how the resing color looks and bud formations.
Thanks

[Guest]

Well, did my rounds this morning and wasn't feeling to well. Once i was done, i forgot to give the Thai Girls a smell. Well, what do i smell since the smell has changed? FUCKIN Chocolate, God am i so happy this morning. The smell is there pretty strong and i'm going to get a baby to smell them today and not say anything about the smell and see if he nails it, but it smells like Chocolate and strong. I've got to be one of the luckiest guys on the planet right now. I've got to thank Top9, i'm sure he's watching. You did a great job putting these Thai's together and getting them to work the hemi's out and all, Great Job Top9. I'm getting ready to take some more cutting from the keeper of this plant and get as many of them going. I'm thinking the next run, with out pollenation will yiled some long tall colas. Will have to wait and see. Well here a picture of the keeper, just before i take a couple of cuts. This is going to be one of my pride and joys, once i got her nailed down on the nutz and flower time.
Take care everyone
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Mom-med.JPG

[bartender187]

CHOCOLATE... Hmmmmm... It should be interesting to see if the aroma carries over into flowering and into the bud. *crosses fingers*

bartender187

[Guest]

The smell is into flowering. The Mother plant has a werid lite smell to her, but the ones in flowering now are the ones that Smell so yummy. I'm also wondering if the flavor is going to carry over to the taste. Will see in about 50-60 or even more. I'll be hoping for the best. Here are the ones that are smelling so good. Yummmmy
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Chocolate_Smell-med.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Chocolate_Smell_2-med.JPG

[Guest]

Thanks, they got a ways to go. Then i'll tell yo if the taste came over.

[Guest]

Ok, people have been asking for alittle update and here it is. The Thai smell like Chocolate and a buddy of mine has said the same thing. I didn't say anything or hint at what i thought it smelled like but asked him what he thought it smelled like and he said Chocolate. It's not a strong smell, but it is there. I'm hoping as they get near the end of the budding cycle they really kick in or after a good cure in the jars. Will see after this first run with them. The only thing that might be taking away is the production of seeds. These plants are seeded with the Male Thai and will be a Thai x Thai from the same source of seeds, so i don't know what you might call these seeds. IBL, F2's F3's since they were grown out from the seeds that were made to make a more stable seed without Hemi's from the orginal seeds from Thailand or where ever they came from to get a stable non-Hemi plant. Top-9 might jump in and help out if he's watching. All i know is Thanks, for the seeds. Here is a updated picture of them.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Seeded_7-6-med.JPG

[Guest]

I'm salivating BG! Looks great. Are you going to keep her as a mother if the choc smell persists?

[Guest]

Thanks, I already have a keeper sitting in the Veg box. I don't fuck around anymore. I've lost some super nice plants, because i didn't take a cut and root them. I've got a mother to take cuts from when ever i want. I have about four or five clones going now that won't be seeded and we can see their full budding with out seeds. They are mixed in with the rest of strains in the 3x3 under the 600HPS. I have the Female Chocolate smelling plant as a mother and the male Thai for crossing and making more Thai seeds later down the road.

[Guest]

I thought i would post some pictures of one of the keepers of Thai. Here is a clone that i take cutting from. I'll be doing a full run of clones this fall sometime.
Have a nice day
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_7-9-med.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_7-9a-med.JPG

[Guest]

Damn that sounds good. Chocolate thai...amazing

I cant wait to see how those buds finish......any estimates on final flowering time to finish those buds?

[Guest]

I'm going to say end of next month to be safe, but i'll check the buds with my Radio Shack hand helded micro scope and see what it tells me. They could go longer also, so i'm not going to even say for sure, because you can really not know for sure. Them be Thai also tells you they can go a very long time. I'm hoping to smell stays with them and carries over in flavor in the taste. Will see once they are done and i'll try some once they are dried and some that is cured. Then, we will see what they turn out in flavor. It would be nice if they did smell and taste like Chocolate, but i'm not going to keep my hopes very high, because if they smell doesn't stay, i don't want to be let down. If it stays and smells awesome, then i'll be super happy. Only time will tell in the end.

[Guest]

really enjoying following this one Billy - looks like you're doing a great job, can't wait to see them in a month or so...

I'm just thinking of the by-product of the thai - Thai Bubble? Thai Dry Sieve (Thai-Sieve lol) It's gonna be astounding!

Thailand's one of my favourite places to visit - last time we made it to Sensi-Seeds Resort 'Sensi Paradise' (at Gypsy's recomendation)- it was just that - PARADISE! I want to go back, but it looks like India's the next big trip.:)

Thanks for putting on a great, well documented show

:wave:

[Guest]

Thanks, Can't wait myself to see them in a month or so. I'm going to the cup in Nov and April and that's going to be my little get away. Would love to visit Thailand and get a bunch of different beans from different areas, maybe sometime in the future.
Thanks

[Guest]

Here's a picture of one of the females i pull for a picture. As you can see it's a balacning act with two strains in one Ebb&Flo table. These do not eat much nutz or drink much, but the TrainWreck in the table with them do. The next run by themselves with do alot better. Plus they won't be seeded and this will help out the plant some to.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_7-14.JPG

[Guest]

Here's a better picture of this one close up. They are starting to give me nutz problems and i need to get the trainwreckout soon, so i can bounch these back. They are still budding ok, but the leaves are going to crap.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_7-20.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_7-20a-med.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_7-20b-med.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_7-20c.JPG

[Fuzzy&Sauce BBG]

BillyGoat
Look's great man.. Keep it up.. Nice pic's..

[Guest]

There getting there,just got to figure out what's wrong with them.
Thanks and take care.

[Capt. Crip]

It's hard to keep those pure sativa's perfect through harvest.They are really not meant for indoors and they really start to show it half-way through flower.The more times you run them the better you will get.They are just so nutrient finicky.A dash too much of this or not quite enough of that and they go to shit.It's usually just the leaves and the buds will keep right on growing along although at a slightly reduced rate.They look to have a month at least!!!!Probably more.I bet you will be very happy with the finished trimmed and cured buds.
I'm sure you kept some clones,,,didn't you?The next time you run them it will be a little better.Shit man,I've been growing that fruit for over 10 years and I just made these look like shit.Added some Alaska mor-bloom to the mix and didn't check the ph.That shit has the lowest PH you could imagine.I just didn't remember.(have'nt used it in a while a wasn't thinking)By the time I noticed the color getting light,it was to late and some leaf damage had been done.They will still turn out awesome,just not as pretty to look at,but those magical trichomes are still right where they are supposed to be.End up losing about 15% of their harvest because of the foul up.Life goes on!!I want to test some of those spice stix when you get them finished!Take care...................CC:wave :

[Guest]

Thanks Capt. They are doing well and i'm think another 60 days max. The rest of this month and all of Aug and maybe harvest them second week of Sept. OH, you bet i got a mother sitting right next to me. Plus these buds are seeds and will have alot of seeds from them. I'll make sure to hit you up with some after they are cured. I'm hoping they will be tastey but i might have to start another run and get the bugs worked out like you said. I hate having a ugly plant in my garden, but they are to pumping out the buds and hairs so i'm still happy.
Later

[Guest]

Pow from BG productions

Those are looking killer bro

Patience is a must with those damn Sativas

Keep on keepin on

Tex

[Guest]

Lollll, I hear you TK. I'm going to stay on them and take my time with them. I got seeds and buds from these Thai's and want to make sure everything is just right. They've been budding for a while now and 60 days should be about right, but if they need another 90 days. Well, that is just fine with me, because the TrainWrech will be coming out and nothing but Thai will be in there.
Thanks

[Capt. Crip]

That will give them extra room to ripen also!!!Talk with you soon BG............................ ..CC

[Harry Gypsna]

Damn they look good now, real sexy ladies. Have u decided on the contest or whatever to get some of the seeds u made?, those thais look lovelyu, real beautiful.

[Guest]

I've talked to Dutchgrown and there will be a contest. The way things work here, is you got to get permission first. Then they want you to send in the seeds so no one has to worry about getting busted. This is not a problem for me, since i've done plenty of business with them and will do with them till i'm 98 years old. I don't know what type of contest i'm going to run yet, but i also want to make sure the seeds are well dried before they go out. Don't won't someone to win and try to germ them ASAP when they get them and they take forever. Everything is in place with Dutchgrown and when i harvest sometime in Sept. I'll dry them out and package them up and get them to SD. I haven't figured out the format of the contest yet, but i'm working on it. I also don't know how many packs i'll send for the contest, because i don't know what the seed yield will be yet. There are other people that breed that are inline for some breeding test in other countries and they will get the first batch, but there will be plenty from what i see from the seed pods. Plus i'll get some up on Seedbay also and try to get a few numbers of packs up to keep prices down. There is nothing i hate then auctions where prices go through the roof, then you see more packes later on. To me that's total BS. Just keep an eye out and when i figure out the contest. I'll get it over to Dutch and then the beans.
Take care

PS, There also will be some of the Godzuki seeds also. Don't hold your breath for the Oriental Express. The pollen didn't take that well and the few seeds i get will be used by me only to grow out and see what i got and maybe BX a male to the TrainWreck for a plant for the Breeders cup this 4:20, but there will be plenty of the BX seeds really for 4:20 cup.
Take care

If all goes well it will be this
(Male Thai x TrainWreck)=Male Oriental Express BX to same TrainWreck mother clone. I think i did this right.

[Guest]

Alright, got some good news. I've been picking some seeds off of some of the plants, since the seed husk have been opening up and about to drop the seeds. I didn't want to lose any, so i've been taking a shot glass and carefully picking them off. This is what i got so far. I'll be sending some seeds out to member that have been promised and then i'll post some on seedbay. I'm going to let them dry some, so there isn't a germ rate problem, because they are so fresh. If you have "NOT" been promised, please don't PM me asking for some. I've only got a few for now, and those people promised are in line. I'll make sure to get some up on Seedbay for others to get ahold of. Thanks, and i'm sure there are going to be plenty more, after the last of the plants are done.
Thanks and take care.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Seeds_8-2-med.JPG

[Capt. Crip]

............BG!!!!!!!:)

[Capt. Crip]

Where did your Thai originate?

[Guest]

They came from a member know as Top_9. I think they are old TFD Pure Thai stock that he grew out and found a good male and Female and went from there. That's what ia think, he has been having some problems with seed stock and these are very hard to grow inside, from what i'm told. This for sure hasn't been the easiest plant for me to grow, but i'm getting use to her. Got clones going now to get another run going ASAP, but unseeded for a better harvest. I think this plant has allot to offer. Check this new picture. I really think this plant can yield good once i figure her Nutz out, but I think she is old school TFD Pure Thai seeds, "I Think", but i could be wrong. Check these new picture out.
Later

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_8-2-med.JPG

[Capt. Crip]

She definitely looks pure to me!!!:) Classic lines!

She looks Thai!What about odor,is it typical sativa green odor or something special?

[Capt. Crip]

............You would think she never plans to finish!She just keeps pumping out the calaxes!

[tokeAcola]

Nice grow, BG! :D

[Guest]

Thanks everyone, She just won't stop producing the calaxes for sure, but i'm going to give her till the end of this month and take a look at her and see what's up. As for smell, well she goes back and forth. Some days she smell like a lite Chocolate odar, then other days she does have a normal typical smell, but something else is in there. I just can't figure it out, maybe it's both the smells fighting each other. Got me
Take care

[Guest]

Ok, alittle update on where the Thai seeds came from in the beginning. The seeds that where used to make the seeds i got where from Thailand direct. I was reading a post Top_9 wrote and he said that they came directly to him from Thailand. Now, the big question is what part of Thailand? I'm going to try to find out where and if i do. I'll post the info and let everyone know.
Later

[Guest]

Thought i would post a picture of some seeds i dough out of some buds a few minutes ago. Still got some more buds to dig through and one plant to harvest, but that last plant is going to be the cream of the crop. I'm going to let her go as long as i can and then harvest her. Then its off to dry for about ten days and then in the jars she goes for awhile. Once i cure them for a minum of two weeks, then it's the taste test. I already got clones ready for another run, but UNSEEDED and they should yield alot better then these.
Later
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Seeds_8-5-med.JPG

[Guest]

Well, as you can see i got a bunch of seeds. I'm going to be sending more into Seedbay once i get a chance. I've got a few packs that should be there anytime now and will post them ASAP. Here's a picture of some new clones that are going to be flowered soon. I'm also going to be harvesting the Thai at the end of this month and will have some nice pictures.
Take care
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_Clones_8-10-med.JPG

[Guest]

Another clone that will be put into 12/12 for some Christmas present for family and close friends. This is also the female used in my Bangkok Betty seeds that are up for auction now on Seedbay.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_8-20.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/63Thai_8-20a-med.JPG

[Guest]

Well, i guess i'm going to have to do a run of it and see. I'll post some pictures once the Christmas harvest is done. I know i get more of the finer resin from my TrainWreck the the second bag. The trainwreck has smaller resin tops and i get more on the last bag of my three bag 5gal kit. I'll give it a try and see what happens. I'm going to be this run in the dark for three whole days at the end to kick up the resin some, so that should help.
Later

[Guest]

So where can I get my hands on that Pure Thai?
Been trying for a long time, but have only seen Skunk/Thai hybrids to date!
As for hash, I just made some out of a pure landrace Nepalese, and it was very heady and cerebral!
Anyway, if someone can PM me on where to locate that Thai, that would be kewl! I have lots of good stuff to trade if that's the case.
:cool:

[Guest]

I got some seeds over at seedbay.com under the name Bangkok Betty.
Thanks

[Guest]

Ya, I saw them there BillyGoat!
Thanks, but they are at $55 cdn already and for untested seeds that's a bit much for me.
If you are ever interested in a trade, I have over 40 strains, plus my own seedbank...
She looks sweet anyway, how potent was she?

[Guest]

I'll be getting more and I might setup a instant purchase also. She pretty dam potent and i don't like to smoke to much of her. She freaked the hell out of me about 8 days ago. Was at a party with some buddies of mine and we was hitting it pretty hard at the party and smoking alot of it. Before i knew it, i was higher then i ever want to be for awhile. It's like it keeps getting you higher and higher, but trippy as hell. I'm not to fawn of the super trippy stuff, but this Thai is good if you don't go over board. I hope this helps. I'm good on seeds now and i'll try to get more to Seedbay to keep the price down.
Later and take care

[Guest]

Sounds excellent BGoat!
My goal is to cross it with a nice pure Afghani (like the Deep Chunk) and then backcross it with either Hindu Kush or Mazar.
It's a strain I have been after for a while. I have some of the Skunk/Thai hybrid, and I had really poor success with those. (low germ rate so they may have been old or something too!)
Anyway, let me know if anything changes..
Tnx.
:)

[Guest]

I got some Deep Chunk on the ways and should be here this week. The was a mess up with an order and Dutch hooked me up with some. I don't know when im going to have time to get them going, but i should have them going just before spring. I'm also looking for a good female and i'm sure i'll find one. I'm going to cross it with my Male Thai to bring down the flower time and add to the high. Hopefully it will get a handle on the trippness also for me and others that don't like that super trippyness. I've heard there has been some problems with "some" of the Skunk Thai crosses, but i've seen some nice one's also. I don't think they sell that well and seeds might be older then they should.
Later

[Guest]

I just posted more seeds for the Thai's up on seedbay if anyone missed out on the last ones. This is only going to be a three day auction. I think i got one or two more packs lefted at SB. I'll have to check and see. I'm also going to post others of the other seeds sometime tonight. Got plenty of the Godzuki and maybe one more pack of Oriental Express. Just wanted to let everyone know if they are wanting some.
Take care

[weedmanpaddy]

how much is it for your seeds?

[Guest]

weedman you wont find many more seeds left i dont thihnk, as BIlly Goat was done by the coppers.
There is one charity auction for Godzuki up at seedbay that ends in a week or two.

edit: actually i think there are more seeds of his, he said recently gypsy has more bags somewhere. Might be in luck..

[WhiteMountain]

Its my understanding that landraces are inbred by indegenous people. THis is why some Afgani is so good. It has been bred for hundreds of years up in the mountains by families of hash producers. THis is landrace Afgani. The same holds true for the dank columbians, Thai, mexican etc.
Read the classic book "marijuana botany" by Robert clarke.
In this book he explains that accidental breeding quickly leads to the "weedy" phenotype. Meaning it loses its drug quality. He states that only carful selection will bring about really good strains.
That is why the landraces strains are so damn good. They represent hundreds, possibly thousands of years of selection and breeding. Not just 10 of twenty year like we seein Amsterdam.
If anyone has read this book and disagrees with me point me to somewhere which says otherwise. I haven't found anyhting that disagrees with this.
one love
wmwb

[CalcioErba2004]

Its my understanding that landraces are inbred by indegenous people. THis is why some Afgani is so good. It has been bred for hundreds of years up in the mountains by families of hash producers. THis is landrace Afgani. The same holds true for the dank columbians, Thai, mexican etc.
Read the classic book "marijuana botany" by Robert clarke.
In this book he explains that accidental breeding quickly leads to the "weedy" phenotype. Meaning it loses its drug quality. He states that only carful selection will bring about really good strains.
That is why the landraces strains are so damn good. They represent hundreds, possibly thousands of years of selection and breeding. Not just 10 of twenty year like we seein Amsterdam.
If anyone has read this book and disagrees with me point me to somewhere which says otherwise. I haven't found anyhting that disagrees with this.
one love
wmwb

:yes:

Great book. :)