UK Grower looking for partner for newshop!

[igohydro]

Olla,habla espanol umpoco.Estudiar para quincen anos en me collega.
Hi,sorry about the abuse of your language but im hoping to learn as soon as possible.As I said im moving to SouthSpain to open a growshop.I have a small family and could do with a Spanish partner,as anyone will know its too much,especially for someone from N.Ireland.
I would need help with location,laws,etc.
Anybodys help in this matter will be greatly apprieceted and needed.
PEACE... :wave:

[Guest]

Olla,habla espanol umpoco.Estudiar para quincen anos en me collega.
Hi,sorry about the abuse of your language but im hoping to learn as soon as possible.As I said im moving to SouthSpain to open a growshop.I have a small family and could do with a Spanish partner,as anyone will know its too much,especially for someone from N.Ireland.
I would need help with location,laws,etc.
Anybodys help in this matter will be greatly apprieceted and needed.
PEACE... :wave:

Are you moving to near malaga? :chin:

I had the same dream about growshop in spain. :)

[Guest]

its definately a blooming industry in spain ,dr coggollo (sp)is the main wholsaler i believe ,, but recently i was in benidorm and found 2 growshops on my first day ,they were both empty everytime i went past them ,

[igohydro]

Yeah,The shop will be in Malaga if all goes well.
Who is the main supplier? :wave:
By the way this aint no dream,lots of cash
research and expierance have got us here
not to say the years of hard work.

[Guest]

Get in line with the rest, but good luck. If all goes well for me. I should have my shop in Cadiz or very close. Alot of work and paper work. I would get a lawyer for sure. Get all your paper work in order then run it by the lawyers office. Already got my paper work lined up. It ain't easy, but it is possible. Good luck and hope to see you there.
Take care,
BG

[theiban]

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[igohydro]

What do you mean get in line?whatuse is paperwork without your freedom!
I am jokeing,how long left? :wave:

[Guest]

What do you mean get in line?whatuse is paperwork without your freedom!
I am jokeing,how long left? :wave:

Very Funny, I forgot to laugh. Funny stuff
Still waiting to hear from the judge about reducing the probation. I'm hoping to be on the plane for this Nov or Dec, if probation is reduced to one year. If not it will be next year.

With me its alot harder to open a business there then someone from UK. You will need to goto local police station and apply for a business Lic. and then get the paper work ready for taxes and employee's if your going to have them and their social security. There is alot to take care, but i'm guessing about the same amount as in anyone elses country. Once i get everything together and all done. I'll post all the forms and numbers of them and what and how it needs to be done in the order and manner. It will give those a stepping stone if they are looking into moving or opening a business in spain from a foreign country. Well, nice to see theiban around. Been awhile.
Take care all

[Guest]

All the best folks. Sure is a booming market in Spain . Would be a nice way to make a living for sure, and the Locals aint been slow figuring that out ;) .
Beautiful choice of Location GDW, ya better be quick or i might beat ya too it!lol , is there a shop in Tarifa, i loved that place ?seriously though , i wish you both every success and prosperity in your ventures and hope oneday i ll be bringing some custom your way if all goes well .
Was lucky to visit both Cadiz and Mallaga this time last year, the shop(s) in Malaga were closed but i did buy some souvenirs from the small head section in the Amsterdam Grow Shop in Cadiz. Nicely stocked shop with working displays, real easy to find and friendly welcoming staff. is there enough biz for another shop in Cadiz GDW, you ve done your research thoroughly right ? was browsing one off the nutrients websites(Gen Hygro, Europe i think) to find the locations off the shops before my visit , thats when i realised how large the market was in Spain. Growshops are everywhere! gotta be room for a couple more though , all the best future(and present;)) cannapreneurs............vh

[Guest]

Hey there, I'm going to move there and live there for about a month before making the move to the shop. I'm going to be very busy setting up some grows. I've been some of the best grow shops in the good old USA. I think i can open a KICKASS shop and show them how its done. I'm sure there is room for me. I'm going to do some driving around and checking with wholesaler's. Been talking to them alittle and they are giving me some good feedback about a couple of idea's for a store. I plan to do alot of ad's in Magazines and local radio also. Getting the words out will bring the customer's. I'll make sure not to open to close to any other stores, but i go some college schooling in marketing. I think i'll do pretty well. If there are too many stores for my area. I'll open another business. Got another business i could do well, but i'd rather do the grow store so i can get all my gear for cost. You can't beat that. I'm sure i can find the right location. I'll be looking for a whole month before renting a place for the store. It will be a rocking store with everything and your more then welcome to come by.
Thanks and take care,
BG

[Delta9-THC]

hope to be smoking in the store by Dec... GDW
lol
will you sell seeds aswell / head section....
Are coca seeds and opium poppys seeds illegal what about cuttings of coca bush???
know nothing about spainish laws other than the relaxed bigstyle about 1999 or so ....

Peace

[Guest]

hope to be smoking in the store by Dec... GDW
lol
will you sell seeds aswell / head section....
Are coca seeds and opium poppys seeds illegal what about cuttings of coca bush???
know nothing about spainish laws other than the relaxed bigstyle about 1999 or so ....

Peace

Store is going to take a month or so. Got to find the right location and i'm sure there is going to be some remodeling. It's going to be fun and looking forward to all the work that is going to take place. I'll be selling seeds in store only. No internet or mail order at all. Don't need to draw any problems from oversea's. Everyone is more then welcome to stop in and kick back and chill. I'll most likely be running ad's here at IC.

[zamalito]

Since the two species (four subspecies) of coca with a high enough alkaloid to be used as an herb and for cocain manufacture content are all cultigen (species that evolved under cultivation) coca seeds don't stay viable for but a day or two and even then have terrible viability rates. Also the alkaloid content is variable with the altitude grown so if you don't live in the mountains its really not worth it. The good news is that if you live in the united states the only type that is illegal is erythroxylum coca. Another species that has an equally high alkaloid content that is less variable with altitude (though it is still effected) is erythroxylum novogranatense var novogranatense and E. Novoganatense var truxillo . Viable seeds for this species (just var novogranatense) are available from dbotany@myway.com . He basically starts the seeds in germ with wet peat moss as soon as they are ready to germ. He ships them to you like this.

[PazVerdeRadical]

yeah, coca isn't the easiest plant to get your hands on unless you live in certain parts of the colombian, ecuatorial, peruvian or bolivian andes mountains. last time i heard from a friend who visited bolivia, no coca plantations below 2500 meters above sea level (+ or - 7500 feet). i don't think the plants would do too well outside the micro-climate from where a cutting was taken though. peace.

[zamalito]

Paz we seem to always be on the same threads. It's good to see a friend with common interests.

I don't mean to hijack this thread and take it off topic but I have often considered attempting coca cultivation simply because I love the flowers it produces. I have heard of it being cultivated in lowland temperate climates though you obviously cannot overwinter plants outside and must provide them with a well lit protected environment when it's colder. During a period when Richard Evan Schultes was head of the harvard botany dept almost all of the greenhouses were devoted to growing coca. The reason that in bolivia there are no plants anywhere but the bolivian highlands (in bolivia even the lowlands are high) is because bolivian coca (E. Coca var coca) though is the most common for leaf production it is also the one who's alkaloid content is dependent on being grown at high altitude. I don't know where the coca leaves available at smart shops in holland are from but they are very adequately potent. There were even crystals in the bottom of the bags from moisture in the leaves evaporating leaving sweet cocaine concentrated crystals. The one time I visited amsterdam I spent the whole week chewing coca and really enjoyed it (I don't drink coffee and don't use cocaine or amphetamines).

Here's a rundown on the types grown for cacaine production.

E. Coca var coca- most common bolivian coca needs altitude to produce cocaine but at very high altitudes can produce very potent leaves.

E. Coca var ipadu- the least potent of the 4 varieties but posibly the most potent when grown near sea level. This is actually lowland coca and grows in the amazonian rainforest. In most counrties both E. Coca varieties are illegal possess seeds and plant matter and to cultivate.

E. Novogranatense var truxillensis - peruvian coca commonly cultivated in river valleys of the mtns of peru. Legal to grow and possess in most countries. Contains high amounts of the interesting alkaloid tropacocaine that while it is close in structure to hyoscyamine and atropine (common to belladonna jimson weed daturas and nightshade plants) it doesn't poison cardiac tissue like cocaine and is more potent by weight and much longer acting.

E. Novogranatense var novoganatense- Columbian coca this is the common species used for drug production in columbia. Also legal to grow in most countries. If you can succesfully cultivate this variety for 4-5 years from seed 2-3 years from cutting it will produce a moderate low amount of cocaine at near sea level.

Something similar to coca that would do very well in the south of spain and some varieties could even handle the mild winter is Khat (pronounced kot)- catha edulis aka celastrus edulis. Instead of cocaine khat leaves contain cathinone (beta keto-amphetamine) when the leaves are wet and fresh. After the leaves dry (48 hrs after picking) the cathinone degrades into cathine (norpseudoephedrine) which instead of being amphetamine like the leaves turn to being more ephedrine like. Traditionally somalian men chew the leaves heavily at just about any get together, holiday, or celebration and spend much money on this plant. Most commercial somalian and ethiopian varieties produce sterile seeds though I have a few seedlings of the al wadi (high grade ethiopian) cultivar. The best source for seeds is south africa. There's a girl on ebay that sells south african khat seeds. I don't know about illegality of khat in spain but if you buy the seeds on ebay I don't think anyone that would be willing to turn you in could id the plants. They also have to be grown for 3 years before it's ready to pick the leaves. My south african plants that I got from ebay will just turned 3 but I'm waiting until they produce more leaves since it tends to lose them over the winter while I keep it indoors.

[PazVerdeRadical]

zamalito, indeed :D great post k+!

where i am i could cultivate some of those varieties of coca, but i have not been able to get my hands on any seeds or cuttings. first time i saw coca leaves was from a university professor who brought a few small bags from bolivia, the typical bag sold in the street. i remember the transparent blue plastic bags... i tried to chew a few (without her knowing hehehe) but at the time i wasn´t aware i needed ´nacar´to chew them properly.
i have drank the commercial coca tea bag produced in Peru though, sells in cardboard boxes like the lipton tea ones. amazing for altitude sickness (mal de paramo).
it is funny, but here in the venezuelan andes there´s no coca production, yet, it is common to see many mountain hikers take a few grams of colombian cocaine with them (fucking gross if you ask me). i always say they are pussies for needing it to be able to hike all the way up to pico bolivar... :D
one love.

[zamalito]

If anyone was wondering about the beauty that is a coca flower look at my avatar I just changed it to one.

[igohydro]

Im still looking a partner for a grow shop in Malaga.

[PazVerdeRadical]

igohydro, check out www.cannabiscafe.net it is a spanish (from spain) forum. tons of spanish dudes and dudettes there... some even root for barca... hehehe...

[Guest]

Im still looking a partner for a grow shop in Catalan!

Afternoon igohydro, sorry the thread has went off topic. I hope you find someone to share your dream. I'm in the middle of mine and it's very stressfull. I hope all goes well and when your shop does get ready to open. I hope you do share your location with us, because i will come visit you and bring a house warming gift for your new home. Good luck and take care.
BG

[igohydro]

Thanks peps! :joint:Its not a dream its a business!
I have a wife and kids GDW,its my biss here.Dreams are what these things are made off. :wave:

[zamalito]

I know I'm terrible about changing the subject. Sorry man.

[Delta9-THC]

thanks for info GDW , Zama , Pas, lol
sorry IGH you know I want it to happen ... just interested in all thats going on too!
I agree Dreams are what makes life happen
and I hope its a reality soon my friend!
I'll be thru those doors with my first order lol
really am looking to move to spain with a friend he has a business and possibility is there ... just looking for a way !
anyway Hopefully to us all living in the sun ...Peace

[igohydro]

Thanks for the kind words Delta9,keep it real my friend.

[shiva das]

Hey Igohydro,
so you want to go to cataluna????
what are your ides??
I was just living thd past year there...pulled down a few grows and learned a lot about the way the catalans think, or at least i think i do.....
I am planning on moving back within the year and would love to get involved in a project.....
I meet up with some contacts, and have a lot of great ideas....PM me and we'll talk.
caio

[Moppel]

Igohydro, how far are you with your plans?

[Hunt4Hazez]

What are the laws regaurding growing/posession of cannabis in Spain? anyone :joint:

[Guest]

Any new updates on finding a partner? I hope all is going well and things are working out. I know it's alot of work, money and paper work. My biggest problem now. Is getting some funds over there and getting a mailing address. Need to open a account so i can have money to buy a place or atleast rent a place for a few months. While looking at houses to buy. Guess, i'll just have to do a wire transfer or something. Let us know how things are going.
Take care,
BG