Independent Test: 126W LED Bloom Cabinet [Archive] - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

LEDGirl

11-03-2009, 09:09 AM

A customer of mine on 420Magazine recently asked me to post his grow journal online as he did not want to be "connected" to the content. Since I had the pictures already and am getting updates weekly, I thought, "why not share it with the guys on IC?"

I won't be good at answering questions about this grow, so if you have any please keep them simple. I am in no way connected to this grow other than the fact that it is using my light, so understand this is a true 3rd party demonstration. In fact, I don't even know where this grow is taking place (state, city, etc...). Here is the starting information from the grower:

"This is a cabinet I bought from Wal-mart, I modified it a bit to make it taller.

It is 30" wide by 20" deep and 76" tall.

the lowest 14" inches has a 20" Gal fish tank in it haha! It holds WAY more nutes then my old 5 gal bucket setup.

then I make custom tops to fit the netpots I need. Right now its fitting 2 5 Gal bucket lid netpots, but next time I'm going to 6" net pots

It has a water pump in there for flushing you can see the hose come out the top.

It also has a 24" foam airstone.

theres also are 2 5" fans in there pulling air from the back bottom of the cabinet and pushing it up into the flower chamber.

Flower area is only 37" tall, thats including the space my 126 Penatrator needs. I had to cut down the straps it came with and make my own lower profile hangers, I use grow yo's

The last 21" or whatever is where I keep a mother. Also I have made the worlds smallest EZ-cloner for up there. then when clones are done I have 2 very short pots I veg in for a week or so. then there ready to replace the ones below...

General Hydro nutes
Strain: Dutch Passion Oasis
6" carbon filter, its behind the veg area "the veg areas only 12" wide"

These images were sent to me on 10-23-09:

LEDGirl

11-03-2009, 09:11 AM

More pictures:

LEDGirl

11-03-2009, 09:14 AM

I was told that the plants are in their mid second week for these pictures, but I don't know the exact day. For where they are at, the plants seem to be stretching nicely and forming pretty little flower clusters.

These images were sent to me 10-31-09:

LEDGirl

11-03-2009, 09:15 AM

More Images:

Gypsy Nirvana

11-03-2009, 10:32 AM

All looks good to me.....seems amazing what you can do with L.E.D's these days........

...a belated welcome to the ICM forums LEDGirl.....

TheGreenBastard

11-03-2009, 10:38 AM

good to see you back on the forums, but why did you need a new account?

Also, congrats on being an official vendor now, looking forward to seeing more of your work.

LEDGirl

11-03-2009, 10:48 AM

good to see you back on the forums, but why did you need a new account?

Also, congrats on being an official vendor now, looking forward to seeing more of your work.

Almost everyone on just about every forum and thread automatically assumed I was a man and addressed me as such. I got tired of correcting people after a while, so I wanted to come up with a screen name that would prevent the issue. LEDGirl was simple and to the point, so I began using it when I signed up for new forums. Since I'm back, I figured it's best to use the name that prevents a bunch of extra posts from taking place on threads so there would be less editing. Plus, I like LEDGirl better :witch:

Sleepy

11-03-2009, 05:54 PM

very nice cabinet!!

the light fixture fits perfectly!!

nice plants, too!!

TheGreenBastard

11-04-2009, 06:02 AM

Almost everyone on just about every forum and thread automatically assumed I was a man and addressed me as such. I got tired of correcting people after a while, so I wanted to come up with a screen name that would prevent the issue. LEDGirl was simple and to the point, so I began using it when I signed up for new forums. Since I'm back, I figured it's best to use the name that prevents a bunch of extra posts from taking place on threads so there would be less editing. Plus, I like LEDGirl better :witch:

that's what I had thought, and I agree it is better.

Ronley

11-07-2009, 08:19 AM

Almost everyone on just about every forum and thread automatically assumed I was a man and addressed me as such. I got tired of correcting people after a while, so I wanted to come up with a screen name that would prevent the issue. LEDGirl was simple and to the point, so I began using it when I signed up for new forums. Since I'm back, I figured it's best to use the name that prevents a bunch of extra posts from taking place on threads so there would be less editing. Plus, I like LEDGirl better :witch:

I love the name LEDGirl. I am Looking at great interest at your product.
Fantastic that you can be an official vendor here. As for years it was a nig NO NO.

LEDGirl

11-08-2009, 01:25 PM

Here are some update pictures I received today: 11-6-09

LEDGirl

11-08-2009, 01:28 PM

more pix:

LEDGirl

11-15-2009, 02:06 PM

Updates 11-13-09:

LEDGirl

11-15-2009, 02:08 PM

more pix:

ArcticBlast

11-15-2009, 06:48 PM

very interesting LEDgirl! i'll be following along for sure! look at those buds!

ArcticBlast

nephrosis

11-24-2009, 11:25 PM

Helis

11-25-2009, 05:13 AM

This has been good to watch... I am very excited on your 126w panel and I will likely order one in the new-year (not overkill for 1.5" x 2" footprint is it?)... Very excited someone based in America (or at least closer to home & closer to the cause than China) is developing this technology for us, and from everything I've read they really do look the best.
Excited to see more!

LEDGirl

11-25-2009, 01:44 PM

Is That an additional MH Bulb? i can't believe thats coming from the lead itself..

Huh? Where are you seeing a metal halide? The customer who is doing the grow and sending me the photos, put some CFL's in at one point solely for photographs, but otherwise this test is only running a single 126W LED.

LEDGirl

11-25-2009, 01:48 PM

GREAT grow!!! I love to see if you could possibly make a 30 picture post, with each picture is 1 day, And maybe you could do it for the flowering stage too?

I am going to have to try to use this method! I cant wait to use LEDs, Less power, MORE/faster plant growth!!! especially if you use the 630 NM red spec LEDS!

Our LED lights do not use 630nm, they use 640nm which is much more closely matched to the chlorophyll absorption peak. Aside from that, 660nm-670nm is what you need for flowering...

As per the 30 picture request, you can feel free to browse the pictures as you like that have already been posted.

nephrosis

11-25-2009, 10:50 PM

well i want to say Thank you for an AMERICANIZED vendor, i look forward at using your product. And about the 640nm or the 630nm, it all depends on the light freq you use, and the brands, but w/e u already know that huh!!!

THANK you for everything, hopefully when im done with my grow i have currently i can get this, alittle expensive but hopefully i will have some money saved by the time im done with my grow. Kinda Hard startin from scratch, had to start a grow with shwag seeds, no money for seeds and idk anyone who does grow around me.

TY

Sleepy

11-25-2009, 11:52 PM

HHHG

11-27-2009, 07:34 AM

well i want to say Thank you for an AMERICANIZED vendor, i look forward at using your product. And about the 640nm or the 630nm, it all depends on the light freq you use, and the brands, but w/e u already know that huh!!!
You do know that the units, at least the 126w, is made and shipped from China? That's how they can offer them for so much less money than competitors. It appears to be well-made, despite what some people may think of Chinese products.

S_a_H

11-27-2009, 07:46 AM

You do know that the units, at least the 126w, is made and shipped from China? That's how they can offer them for so much less money than competitors. It appears to be well-made, despite what some people may think of Chinese products.

I know somewhere on the website it says they weigh something like 25 or 26 pounds and when I got the box of course it was heavy. But when you open it up and actually see the unit it just doesn't look like it could be that heavy but it is.

S_a_H

LEDGirl

11-27-2009, 08:37 AM

You do know that the units, at least the 126w, is made and shipped from China? That's how they can offer them for so much less money than competitors. It appears to be well-made, despite what some people may think of Chinese products.

The units currently use USA-made LED's from Bridgelux and Semi, and high-quality fans from Japan. They are assembled in China, as labor rates there are cheap. Other than possibly the casings and heatsinks, I don't believe anything else is actually "made" in China. And by the way, 99% of our competitors source their lights in China as well, they just like charging more. A small few like Lumigrow and Haight seem to build their panels here in the states. Haight only offers a 1 year warranty, while we do 3, so where a product is made is not always a good judge of it's quality. ;)

shaunmulok

11-27-2009, 09:33 AM

Hi LEDGirl, i have just come back to ic from a month without internet to find your Forum, Congrats on that and Congrats on the LED lights
I have been following the developments with led's and yours by far seem to have made a big advancement in the technology
I am from Australia and only on a disability pension so i'm always looking for ways to save money in the long run
Sorry if i'm asking an already asked question, but are you making these units for Aus. Standards(eg 240v Aus plug)???
I notice you had a comp to win some of your light spewin i missed it but i noticed a few of my friends are going to do a test grow for you so i will be following Benji's, Sleepy's and S_a_H tests closely
But from what i have seen from your threads,album and skills of growers chosen i'm sure they will all be good tests
Good luck with your future endeavors to make better LED's i will be watching
Peace,Good karma
Shaun

HHHG

11-27-2009, 09:43 AM

I've got nothing against Chinese goods, though I wouldn't buy toys or food from there.

American-made CFL bulbs that many of us use are filled with mercury, as are the immunizations our government tries to persuade all of us to get.

LEDGirl

11-27-2009, 12:39 PM

I've got nothing against Chinese goods, though I wouldn't buy toys or food from there.

Don't forget the toothpaste lol!

Sorry if i'm asking an already asked question, but are you making these units for Aus. Standards(eg 240v Aus plug)???
I notice you had a comp to win some of your light spewin i missed it but i noticed a few of my friends are going to do a test grow for you so i will be following Benji's, Sleepy's and S_a_H tests closely

Yes, we make them with the correct plug and voltage to plug into the wall. We've sold a lot of units to Australia, so we're pretty familiar with making sure they work for you specifically. As per the competition, IrishBoy is still performing it, and it is posted on this forum. I have other tests starting soon against Haight Solid State and Lumigrow as well. It takes beating several companies with far less wattage, before you really start proving to everyone how superior your technology truly is. ;) I know you'll enjoy the tests being performed by the mods here, and I know they'll all fall in love with LED just as I did.

shaunmulok

11-27-2009, 12:53 PM

Hi LEDGirl thanks for the response, looking forward to seeing the results of all the test's
Stay safe
Shaun

Sleepy

11-27-2009, 06:06 PM

You do know that the units, at least the 126w, is made and shipped from China? That's how they can offer them for so much less money than competitors. It appears to be well-made, despite what some people may think of Chinese products.

browse your local reseller stores...pick up any product.

lots are made in China.

almost everything in Wal-Mart comes out of China.

lots of high-tech items, too.

America used to be a manufacturing powerhouse, no more.

don't knock the Chinese, in 10 years, we will all work for them in one way or another.

the light is a quality unit, regardless.

MeanBean

11-27-2009, 06:50 PM

Hi Cam..

HHHG

11-28-2009, 05:17 AM

You do know that the units, at least the 126w, is made and shipped from China? That's how they can offer them for so much less money than competitors. It appears to be well-made, despite what some people may think of Chinese products
don't knock the Chinese, in 10 years, we will all work for them in one way or another

I didn't knock them. Did you not see my post after that?
I've got nothing against Chinese goods, though I wouldn't buy toys or food from there

Sleepy

11-28-2009, 05:55 AM

oops...sorry about that...

yeah, no toys, or baby formula!!

hehehe

HHHG

11-29-2009, 08:01 AM

New pics?

LEDGirl

11-29-2009, 12:32 PM

tomorrow, I got home way too late to post them tonight, although they were sent to me today ;)

BoB91

12-01-2009, 08:40 AM

I have a wardrobe about the same size. It has two compartments. the lower one is 3'(l)x2'(W)x2'(h).the top portion is 3x2x4.It has no doors top or bottom-will have to be added when I start turning this into a machine-a bud machine that is if I get off my lazy ass and do some work.
but this wont be until i get my tax return in feb or march. I will definitely need hep with the build at that time. but i definitely am going to buy one of your 126 w lights for flower in the top and use a couple flouro tubes on the bottom for veg So am looking forward to the results so I can show my wife what to expect.:thanks:

BoB91

12-07-2009, 06:27 AM

Any new pics....? I know you are busy so I will just be waiting patiently

LEDGirl

12-07-2009, 06:44 AM

Sorry everyone, here are the pictures that were sent to me on 11-28:

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/DSCF0467.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/DSCF0474.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/DSCF0476.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/DSCF0477.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/DSCF0478.JPG

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/DSCF0479.JPG

HHHG

12-07-2009, 11:43 AM

I'm guessing the latest pics are around 6 weeks flowering?

WarBux

12-07-2009, 06:49 PM

I just found this thread and was really impressed with all the wonderful pics. The last set of photos that were posted (first two pics) are spotting pretty bad. I have seen that on some of my plants in a previous grow (under UFOs) when my reservoir temps were too high and I got root rot.

MeanBean

12-09-2009, 12:39 PM

sup warbux? on 420 2?

botanist85

12-12-2009, 01:27 AM

The plants look good but not 100% healthy. Just my two cents. A lot of spotting.

LEDGirl

12-15-2009, 01:35 PM

Not my plants, but I agree. There is a deficiency there for sure, although not major.

crudvapors

12-16-2009, 06:55 PM

is there gonna be an update soon? gotta be getting close to harvest and i AM at the edge of my seat for that final #.

I would also really like to know how tall the plants got when they were chopped down. This is a pretty small grow, very stealthy, i'd like to concider grams to volume. Because, say, in your 1500w room, you grow your plants probably to the best height those lights can handle (guessing), but you are growing them at least larger than i'm about to, and larger than this grow for sure. Smalller plants, smaller weight, but by how much? Maybe 1g/w instead of your 2g/w?

rickso

12-19-2009, 01:12 AM

&@#$%!

Now I'm not sure this is in the right thread... apologies. Perhaps here: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2905425&highlight=Haight+Solid+State+L umigrow#post2905425

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On 11-27-2009, 06:39 AM:

"...I have other tests starting soon against Haight Solid State and Lumigrow as well."

LEDGirl - If there's ongoing coverage of these tests, can you provide links?

About me: I'm presently using two Procyon 100 units complemented by eight T5 lamps (GE Ecolux High Output F24W-T5-830-ECO 24W 3000K). In the next month or two I plan to be in the market for a third light source. I'll combine this new source with my existing set up. I have no experience growing with any other sources of light.

Thanks in advance.

TerryCider

12-19-2009, 06:22 AM

cant wait to see how this turns out....

ill be switching to led's and looks like ill be getting one of these 126w panels.... has anyone ever used 1 126w led panel and supplemented with cfl's?

or is that not a good idea?

TheGreenBastard

12-19-2009, 07:09 AM

I personally haven't seen it though I don't see why it shouldn't work. It would probably work best with the panel in the middle with 6 CFL's, 3 (either 23 or 42w, or both) on each side.

TerryCider

12-19-2009, 09:17 PM

ya thats what i would do....it would add heat, but id rather deal with a little heat than get 2 panels at once...... they're soooo expensive!

WarBux

12-19-2009, 09:58 PM

rickso

12-20-2009, 09:49 PM

Are you documenting the grow? The grows I have seen with the Procyon never went well. I am really interested to see what the light can do.

Strain: Endless Sky grown from clone (neurotically pruned prior to harvest in the next week or so)
Container: Airpot
Soil: Foxfarm
Nutrients: GH Flora, KoolBloom, Hygrozyme
Ruler: 15 inches long
Procyons turned off for photos
Planted: Mid-October

Plant in background was planted on 11/11. Growing more vigorously, likely due to stricter adherence to feeding schedule.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=12483&pictureid=249297&thumb=1 (http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=12483&pictureid=249297) http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=12483&pictureid=249975&thumb=1 (http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=12483&pictureid=249975)

Repeating an earlier question:

"On 11-27-2009, 06:39 AM:

"...I have other tests starting soon against Haight Solid State and Lumigrow as well."

LEDGirl - If there's ongoing coverage of these tests, can you provide links?"

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=12483&pictureid=249298&thumb=1 (http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=12483&pictureid=249298)

MeanBean

12-23-2009, 02:19 AM

has anyone ever used 1 126w led panel and supplemented with cfl's?

or is that not a good idea?

I think the CFLS just make way to much heat in the cab. PLus they have little effect unless there really close to the plants, within 3"....

LEDGirl

12-23-2009, 03:30 AM

LEDGirl - If there's ongoing coverage of these tests, can you provide links?"

The links are always updated on our "see what our customers are doing" sticky at the top of the forum. As new ones come online, I post them.

rickso

12-23-2009, 05:12 PM

The links are always updated on our "see what our customers are doing" sticky at the top of the forum. As new ones come online, I post them.

Found it - many thanks and good luck.

TerryCider

01-06-2010, 03:55 AM

any updates on this grow?

LEDGirl

01-06-2010, 10:32 AM

I haven't received any updates from the person doing the grow in quite some time. I mainly kept in touch with him through 420 Magazine, but after they banned their sponsor instead of a rampant idiot who stalks my customers online, I lost contact. If you're around and read this, it would be nice to see how your grow ended up!

MeanBean

01-06-2010, 08:17 PM

Here ya go! these pics were from harvest day like 12-10-09. the smaller container ended up drying to 1.25 oz those were the top buds mostly or the most danks we could find.

The larger container was 3oz er so dry but we smoked about a half before it was dry "still way better than the shit i could $ around here" . that's how i estimated about 4 oz total.

plus I got a whole jar of shake but i didnt weigh it... Now it's all about gone sept for my shake. gave lots away n celebrate my first sucessfull grow.
"looks like ill need that shake"! i should be good in feb though.

I plan on doing another journal, posting it myself.

I intend on getting a 2nd gen penatrator, then growing 4 small plants in da same cab but with 2 penatrators. Strain: Dutch Passion " The Ultimate"

Too bad it won't start tell april, im growing a mother now, shes about the size of a piece of porcorn now lol...

It will be a nice side by side test of the first gen vs second for anyone who has a first gen.. I still love it and think LEDGirl has the best tech ever.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=262802

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=262803

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=262804

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=262798

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=262799

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=262800

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=262801

MeanBean

01-06-2010, 09:47 PM

I tried to link to the album here, didn't work, still dont know if i can get bigger pics here or a link to them.

HHHG

01-09-2010, 12:15 PM

4 oz from 126w = .89gpw, right?

MeanBean

01-09-2010, 01:37 PM

4 oz from 126w = .89gpw, right?
Sounds right, but I wouldrnt base your scientific data on my last grow.

MeanBean

01-09-2010, 02:48 PM

This is the biggest Pic size that is supported here. I got lots of Large hig def pics. trying to figure out how to share them for my next thread.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=13106&pictureid=265042

botanist85

01-10-2010, 01:02 AM

Dude meanbean I think you dropped your whole entire plant in the snow and from the looks of it you forgot to shake it off. WTF? Why dont you shake it off then show us your pictures. lol.

Looks amazing though, you pulled some good weight with your 126w. Once I get my system running in a smooth motion I too, hope to achieve the 1 gram/1 watt benchmark with LEDs. I recently supplemented with 2-4ft T8 UVB 10.0 floras. From the looks it has an effect but that by no means is that a valid statement because I have no previous data to compare or back up my claims. BUT.....from the looks of it is seems to have an effect.

MeanBean

01-10-2010, 02:21 AM

Thanks Botanist! That pic was from 5.5 weeks, lots more snow was on there before i got to smoke dat bud.

Hope I'll have your input when I get a second light in there and try my new strain!

adrenachroman

01-11-2010, 01:59 PM

Meanbean you've impressed the hell out of me.Way to grow!

Skip

01-11-2010, 06:43 PM

MeanBean

01-11-2010, 11:37 PM

Thanks! Ya someone showed me the little chart on how your account expands! Sounds good I should have her opened up by the time I am ready to post a grow. I may post a few pics of my current grow once I get the bigger res too!

yosun

02-15-2010, 12:56 AM

how are the temps on the 126?

MeanBean

02-15-2010, 01:19 AM

o little to none. In that cab it raises it from 6 - 10 degrees from amient temp.

JuniorBalls

02-15-2010, 10:23 PM

Reading through this thread, I kept thinking "I've seen that cupboard - the vent shaft through the bottom..."

Just realised I saw it in your other thread!

Nice work, really weighing this up at the moment - if I'm honest at first I just wanted them all to be crap, so I wouldn't have to bother with them. Yet to be unconvinced!

Keep it coming!