View Full Version : 100% Female Seeds through Natural Selection
Owl Mirror
10-28-2009, 09:52 PM
I would like to pose a question, based upon something a friend told me.
He told me it is possible to hand-pick female seeds directly from the plant.
What he says is that the single seed that grows from the location where the preflower is located at each internode are 99.999% always female plants.
Here is a picture to demonstrate what I mean.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/owlmirror/FemaleSeedlocation.jpg
He says, the seeds found in buds can be random sexual producers but, these single seeds as described above offer the best chance to obtain female seeds.
He said those seeds produced inside buds are still viable yet, can be either male or female seeds.
He takes these single seeds exclusively for his breeding projects, hand-picking them from the plants before harvesting.
Can anyone either verify this info or dispute it's validity ?
deathtosoapbar
10-28-2009, 10:03 PM
I cant say for a fact that its not true...but it seems unlikely, i cant see any logical reason why seeds from that particular part of a plant would be all female it doesnt seem to make any sense, the only time i have known all seeds to be female without the use of chemicals is when a hermaphrodite plant pollinates a female, the resulting offspring can be all female in some rare cases, but mostly they just produce hermaphrodite offspring.
Burnt Rope
10-28-2009, 10:22 PM
NOpe not true.....
While we call them preflowers...
They are in fact no different than the flowers found in buds..... multiple flower groups....
Owl Mirror
10-28-2009, 10:42 PM
NOpe not true.....
While we call them preflowers...
They are in fact no different than the flowers found in buds..... multiple flower groups....
Is this opinion or based upon an actual trial study to confirm or dismiss the hypothesis ?
By what method have you concluded with certainty your conclusion ?
Burnt Rope
10-28-2009, 10:45 PM
Because I have run batches of seeds where I only pollenated the preflowers....
few seeds only....
NOw you dont honestly think with cannabis being millions of years old that this would be discovered now do you????
Of course I always used a male......
I would in fact be quite interested just why this might happen.....
Owl Mirror
10-28-2009, 10:55 PM
NOW you don't honestly think with cannabis being millions of years old that this would be discovered now do you????
Since my friend mentioned this, I assume it has been discovered.
I'm simply asking the question, I haven't tested it out, yet.
Nature is a wonderful and mysterious thing, why couldn't nature be this selective in design?
Those particular seeds are the ones that would fall from the plant with little restrictions, verses those contained in the clusters. That could be part of the design, NO?
Burnt Rope
10-28-2009, 11:03 PM
I just looked in my copy of marijuana botany...
while bob clarke talks about the advantages of these flowers he doesnt mention they produce anything but seeds of both sexes.....
good luck
PhenoMenal
10-28-2009, 11:12 PM
the only time i have known all seeds to be female without the use of chemicals is when a hermaphrodite plant pollinates a female, the resulting offspring can be all female in some rare cases, but mostly they just produce hermaphrodite offspring.
Yep - if a female throws out a few pollen balls (so essentially a natural hermaphrodite) and pollenates itself - or any other females, the resulting seeds will be feminised, BUT they'll also most likely retain the hermaphrodite tendencies that their mother displayed. This is why breeders of feminised seeds look for females that are relatively stress resistant and unlikely to 'go hermie', and then FORCE the plant to create pollen by using ethylene inhibitors such as colloidal silver, silver theosulphate, giberillic acid etc.
hamstring
10-28-2009, 11:17 PM
The funny thing about nature is if there is no productive reason to have a trait any trait then the trait ceases to exist by natural selection.
I do not have the answer but my question would be, " What advantages does this provide to the plants success in life?"
Seems unlikely that this one spot on the plant for strictly female seeds, no males which are needed in life to succeed.
I live in the Midwest and see hemp that has went hermi all the time. This happens when no males exist to pollinate the females but seeds are of mixed gender not just female as this would not help promote the plant species.
What advantage does this trait provide to promote the survival of this plant??
Just an opinion no data.
PEACE
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