2 hermies from light stress, trash their clones?

[greenehype]

Ok I just noticed 2 Joey Weed White Russian girls in their 6th week of flower go a bit hermie at the bottom. The sacks had already burst and I think they might have pollinated some near by Chronics and Sensi Stars(in their 4th week flowering)I believe it was due to a light leak(now fixed) thru the window a/c(through the styrofoam...I flower at night..so when the sun was coming through the styrofoam the plants were supposed to be in darkness). So, a couple questions:

-Should I scrap the 25 clones I took from the two WRs that went hermie? My concern is that if the light leak wasn't the cause of the hermies(as the other strains in the room havent hermied...atleast not yet), then I risk having 25 potentially crop-ruining plants next round.

-How will I know if the other plants in the room were pollinated? I noticed the Sensi Star and a Chronic next to the WRs hairs turn a bit orange, not all over but about 1/3 of the hairs have turned. One lucky factor is that the WRs were positioned at the end of a row with the fan blowing away from the crop(is it wishful thinking that maybe the pollen got blown away and sucked up my 760cfm fan?)

-I pulled the WRs and harvested them. Trichs were mostly clear with about 15% cloudy. Do you think the smoke will be crap?

I know this is a load of questions but partial answers or insight is appreciated.

[Mr. Stinky]

keep the plants. they are not at fault, you are. but since you figured out the problem and fixed it, you wont have the troubles anymore. and you made some fem seed in the process. win-win

[Dr Dog]

and you made some fem seed in the process. win-win

sure you made some fem seeds that will always carry hermaphroditic tendencies

[greenehype]

seeds werent mature...infact I could barely tell they were starting to form...so that leads me to guess that the plant pollinated itself less than 2 weeks ago?(based on 30 days for a seed to mature)

[greenehype]

so the WRs aren't inherently hermaphroditic?

Also, I've heard Chronic has a higher than average hermie rate..should I be worried about them going hermie or do I not have to worry so much now that the problem is fixed?(basically, what is the timeline from the point of stress till visible hermaphroditic traits?)

[PharmaCan]

If you like the WR strain, but it turns out that it tends to hermie easily, just get some Dutch Masters Reverse and use that. Reverse is great for stopping hermies.

PC

[medmaker420]

I only clone true females, as in ones I have stressed with light leaks, heat stress, nute variations and so on and STILL stay female.

If you want a plant that COULD hermie half way through flower do to one mistake then that is up to you. Some strains are prone to it BUT no matter how great they sound I don't run em.

[20north]

ive had 4 of my 6 plants hermi 4 weeks in flower and it didnt make any seeds just make the hermi plants yield very little bud on the ones i didnt strip besides the top buds..... this is only my experiance i wouldnt run on it i might ignore this all together

[hoosierdaddy]

It is only a select few plants that will not hermie when stressed. Find one, and you have one that breeds true for no hermie.

So what if your plant will hermie with stress? Don't stress it.
And if you do end up with femmed seeds, grow them out and smoke them up. Just don't use them for a breeding program, unless you are looking for plants that will hermie with light stress...which probably 99% of them do.

[Mr. Stinky]

sure you made some fem seeds that will always carry hermaphroditic tendencies

every seed has intersex genetics. thats what this plant does. the only ones we dont want are the ones that do it unprovoked. it is his fault they switched. not the plants. every single plant we've ever grown had the ability to switch, some are just more able than others. your comment only applies if the plant switches without undue stress. in that case, the seedstock will also switch at will. since thats not the case here, its not relevant. the seeds he made will not hermie on their own, only with light stress....same as every other plant

[Dr Dog]

every seed has intersex genetics. thats what this plant does. the only ones we dont want are the ones that do it unprovoked. it is his fault they switched. not the plants. every single plant we've ever grown had the ability to switch, some are just more able than others. your comment only applies if the plant switches without undue stress. in that case, the seedstock will also switch at will. since thats not the case here, its not relevant. the seeds he made will not hermie on their own, only with light stress....same as every other plant

my comment is valid

[Maj.PotHead]

my comment is valid
sure is

[hoosierdaddy]

Sure your comment is valid, but you made it sound like all he was doing was creating hermies. Which is clearly not the case. The plants he created will carry herm tendencies, the same as the last batch you created, Dr Dog... those carry herm tendencies too.

[CannabisSativa]

Like everyone said, it will carry hermie tendencies. Basically that plant that hermied has a lower tolerance to light stress and will pass it down. That's why female seeds are more likely to hermie than regular female seeds because the plant is stressed to produce the seeds and will also pass down that "stress" tolerance.

I am not saying that all fems do this, but have a greater chance. :joint:

[*mistress*]

grow out the seeds.

youll find some nice sports in self-pollinated plants.

some plants may throw out balls, but have seen @ least 75% female progeny in that situation. either way, should check the status of seed plants anyway, preferably frequently and closely (node-by-node).

found several exotic variations in offspring of trans-gender girls. distinct from mum or mr.mum.

as long as not intl seed co, why not have space/time/energy for mutant/morphs/sports/trans-genders? if balls appear, pluck off and move on.

those cuts should be fine. actually a deep instinct to survived that prompted the selfing to begin w/. is not desire to survive a good quality to possess? if not in the p1, in the fem-dom s1 beans?

enjoy your garden!

[hoosierdaddy]

Like everyone said, it will carry hermie tendencies. Basically that plant that hermied has a lower tolerance to light stress and will pass it down. That's why female seeds are more likely to hermie than regular female seeds because the plant is stressed to produce the seeds and will also pass down that "stress" tolerance.

I am not saying that all fems do this, but have a greater chance. :joint:

I'm sorry, but that is so much bullshit.
Female seeds are NOT more prone to hermie.

[Mr. Stinky]

yep. just stoner bullshit. breeding and genetics arent different for this plant than any other. feminized seeds are most certainly not hermaphrodite seeds. and real fem seeds have less intersex tendency than normal seeds. stop repeating the garbage you read on the forums, and do some research for yourselves

[Mr. Stinky]

my comment is valid

sure, it was true. his seeds will carry herm tendencies... AS DO ALL MJ SEEDS. but your comment was intended to press the idea that he will be growing hermies. incorrect.

[CannabisSativa]

I'm sorry, but that is so much bullshit.
Female seeds are NOT more prone to hermie.

Care to give or share some articles/text on this? I swear just about all the articles I read mention that and some even go in a bit "deep" into discussion. I only like giving out correct information and if this wasn't well I'm truly sorry.

:joint:

EDIT: I did a bit of looking and I found a good example"


The only people who keep repeating this are the people who have heard it from yet other people, none of whom have actually experienced it. You don't hear about femmed seeds turning hermie from people who actually use femmed seeds. And that's because the hermie thing is a myth.

Like all myths it is based on some truth...yes, crude attempts at creating femmed seeds can produce seeds that tend to hermie. But the reputable breeders know this and take great care to stabilize their lines before selling them. It depends on the strain(s) used and conditions in their feminizing process. The result is seeds that have no more tendency to hermie than "regular" seeds.


I guess I shouldnt of said "That's why female seeds are more likely to hermie than regular female seeds", I should of been more clear. I will now edit the post.

[Mr. Stinky]

mendelian inheritance 101, man :)

[CannabisSativa]

mendelian inheritance 101, man :)

Ya that stuff was briefly discussed in a gen biology 1 class I took a while back...but I plan on actually diving into this next year so that I can produce seeds that have the traits that I want...but I like to do a lot of research before I start anything....anyways...

Lets say one of your plants grows nanners with slight stress and pollinates itself or another plant...wouldn't some of those seeds that carry those tendencies as well? I mean it makes sense and this was the point I was trying to get across...but I think I did a poor job.

:joint: