Using urine as nuits

[Guest]

How many IC members have used urine to bump up the N in ther plants.. below are some links to check out... please post any good urine nuit formulas..



http://www.liquidgoldbook.com/
http://www.sustainablesonoma.org/calendar/eventdetails.php?eventId=625

"Manure with urine (for instance, if it is collected in a lined slurry-pit) contains more nitrogen than manure without urine. But the nitrogen in urine is lost easily. Cover the slurry-pit to prevent this (see the sections on Zero-grazing and Urine–manure slurry as fertilizer)."

http://www.iirr.org/saem/page124-130.htm

[Guest]

DrawoH
Nice... :wink: .. Lets see who else thinks so.. peace..

Sack's First Outdoor Grow (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11794)
New picz are up LQQK see... 4th day 12/12

sack :friends: :canabis: :joint:

[nycnoob]

the info does look great.. but I just dunno about smoking my own piss.. iunno.. man i am out of it today

[Nugs of Science]

Sure use your urine. It is actually alittle too hot for plants maybe not old ones but I wouldn't bet the farm. Composting the urine with some cow crap would be better but I doubt you have a storage unit for such. Actually, the slurry has had some degradation and heavy dilution so it would not be as hot if it were "fresh".
NoS

[Guest]

sack...... i thought you would get a kick out of this

[issack]

START PISSIN FELLAS!!!!...LMAO

[SuperToker]

You might as well go get a 5 gallon jug of crappy gh 3 part and pour that on your plants at full strength. urine has much to salt, and the level of nitrogen is extremely inconsistent.

[Bigmone357]

START PISSIN FELLAS!!!!...LMAOROFLMAO :biglaugh: How would u feel if someone pissed on u? Plants have feelings too :biglaugh: :petting: :pointlaug .Later Guys BM357 :wave:

[Guest]

Big.....you feed them shit don't you, why not PP...... pissed on or shit on whats the diff........

ST...... did you actually check the PPM of the PP....... lmao.....ppm for pp....lmao...PP's ec....lmao.

the best way to actually use the PP is to mix it in a tea with bat shit.

[CalcioErba2004]

"Piss on 'em"
-Tommy Chong
"Nice Dreams"

dilute it of course. :smile:

[packn2puff]

Organic Hydro...yep the right forum for this... :bigeye:

Keep a bucket in the bathroom or grow to collect...mix and bubble...hmmm. Might work...depends on what you consume...Do ya eat a bunch of salad first. Fuk it, I'm spendin the 5 bucks instead...of course there is folier feeding. I'll just buy the poop(guano) and piss(urea) that comes in the bottle. That's the next thread..."Use your own guano and save big $$$" :pointlaug

:fsu:

[Guest]

DrawoH
I sure did get a laff out of this.. :pointlaug ... But i would venture to say it works..
peace..

Sack's First Outdoor Grow (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11794)
New picz are up LQQK see... 4th day 12/12

sack :friends: :canabis: :joint:

[Guest]

I would be really pissed (pun intended) if I killed my plants w/ p.

[Guest]

ROFLMAO :biglaugh: How would u feel if someone pissed on u? Plants have feelings too :biglaugh: :petting: :pointlaug .Later Guys BM357 :wave:

^^^hehehe plants have feelings and im sure they wouldnt like to be pissed on hahaha nice one BigMo im having a chuckle at that one mate :joint:

You know articles may say piss is ok but i just couldnt bring myself to piss on my plants...or smoke it after :yoinks: :biglaugh: :confused:

[Guest]

brb i gota go take a piss oops i mean water my plants :bigeye:

[Guest]

Human urine as fertilizer is a bad idea when so many cheap and consistent sources of urea based ferts are available. Yeah, it'll work, but how many of you have a place to keep a smelly ass gallon of piss laying around for a month?

What the links don't tell you:

Urine has to be cured in order to work on plants. This means you have to keep a large container of piss around that you pee in often in order to mitigate the wide disparity between chemical makeup per piss. Your urine content is widely variable. You only need to look at the stream to know this. Bright yellow, clear, dark yellow, it comes is all flavors, but not at once. Some of the factors that effect urine makeup include, food consumed, liquid consumed and amount, how much you sweat, the metabolism you have, frequency of urination, your personal health (infections), etc. Just pouring the random piss into the feedwater would deliver an unknown dose of.....something to your plants. Whereas a dose of $2 a bottle Schultz or Miracle Grow 2-1-1 feritilizer is almost always going to be a dose of 2-1-1 fertilizer. You decide which will be better for your plants.

From what I understand, human feces should not be used as fertilizer in any case.

[packn2puff]

Excuse me..I have to go see a plant about a horse..

I agree with Cap...even if it works, the time, effort, processing hassles and variables, and yuk factor, just don't make it worth it...I don't think you would be doing anything better for your plants...most likely the opposite...than even the cheapest product fert available.

[Harry Gypsna]

" So, whats your growing style, Bio , Hydro , or doo-doo???

[JetUsUp]

wow... i dont know how much my girlfriend would like it if she walked into my room and saw me taking a leak on my plants.
:bat: i bet i would get just that...

[Octagoner]

I know of a grower that did a worm bin of some special kind of worms (don't know what type) and his own shit, and he was camping out with his project which apparently did pretty good outside last year.

[Guest]

I remember years ago the feelings about using human waste as fertilizer for rice fields. Just my .02 worth.

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[firstavailable]

OK, all joking aside, using urine does work, but you need to do it right.

When I was growing, I used urine as a fert exclusively with excellent results.

Yes, if you water your plants with pure undiluted urine, they will die. No shit.
<sarcasm>
Feeding your plants with an undiluted concentrated fertilizer hurts them? Really?
</sarcasm>
Next time you are feeding your plants with AN, or BC hydro, or Floura Nova, or whatever concentrated commercial nute you prefer to use, try using it strait up without diluting it, and see what happens.

The proper way to use urine is to dilute it in water. A solution between 1:15 and 1:10 works best. When properly diluted it is next to impossible to hurt your plants. This works equally well in hydro or soil. When properly diluted, there is little to no smell. Especially compared to the wonderful aromas that most organic nutrients produce.

While it is true that the most abundant nutrient in urine is N, that is not to say that it is the only nutrient it contains. There are MANY micronutes in urine, as well as a good bit of P and K. During bloom, some people like to add supplementary P and K, although this is not absolutely necessary for a good harvest. Urine also provides an excellent bed for the development of beneficial bacteria. This is especially true in soil and biofilter style hydro. In addition, urine contains chemicals and hormones that help in root and vegetative growth.

Another popular myth is that urine is somehow poisonous or contains bacteria and pathogens. Nothing can be further from the truth. Urine is merely a concentrated water solution of the vitamins, minerals, and nutrients that your body takes in but does not use. Unless you have a specific ailment such as a urinary tract infection or an STD, when urine exits the body, it is completely sterile. For this reason, fresh urine is often used to flush out battle wounds during war. In case you are wondering, the pathogens that our bodies produce are excreted through the bowels, which is why it is a bad idea to use uncomposted shit for your plants.

Another myth is that urine needs to be “composted” or “cured” before it can be used as a fertilizer. Again, not true. You can use urine to make fertilizer solution right away. In fact, this is preferable to using “cured” urine.

Yet another myth is that the nutrients in urine are somehow magically not able to be used by plants. Again, not true. The chemical composition of the nutrients in urine is the same as the chemical composition of the nutrients in any other organic fertilizer. The plant doesn’t know the difference between nitrogen obtained from human piss or cow shit. Nitrogen is nitrogen. Nutrients are nutrients.

Regarding the “If I’m not willing to eat it myself, I’m not willing to feed it to my plants” mentality. Yea, this makes a lot of sense. Are you willing to eat cow shit? How about bat shit? How about worm shit? How about ground up cow bones? Dried up fish guts anyone? How about synthetic chemicals obtained from petroleum byproducts (where did you think chem. ferts. came from)? Would you be willing to grind up hamburgers and pizza and run that in your DWC bucket? How about watering with coke or Pepsi? Perhaps bury a nice juicy steak into your soil?

Regarding the “gross/yuck factor”. Human and animal urine has been used as fertilizer for crops for thousands of years. In fact, it is still widely used today. Switzerland has recently implemented a program to convert liquid waste (urine) from sewage into fertilizer. The high nutrient value in urine is the primary reason for unhealthy algae growth in parts of the oceans/lakes where sewage is dumped. The algae get this super high nutrient and grow super fast.


I hope this post doesn’t come off as negative or confrontational. That is definitely not my intent. Urine is used as a free and viable nutrient by many growers. I’m just trying to inform and spread knowledge. I would be more than happy to discuss/answer questions regarding the use of urine as a fertilizer.

I’m not sure about the policy of cross linking on this forum, so I won’t post any links. However if anyone is interested in seeing some success stories of urine being used in either hydro or soil, do a search for foto420 on overgrow. He has a couple very nice hydro grows and harvests using urine exclusively, as well as with PK supplements during bloom. Also, my pic gallery on OG has pictures of my plants grown in soil and fed with urine exclusively.

[Guest]

don't use piss as fertilizer unless you honestly don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of :D

LISTEN TO CAPRICHOSO

he's the man and posted the exact same thing i was going to :respect:

thanks
cj

AS A SIDE NOTE-- DON'T USE ANY PET WASTE EITHER

[Guest]

:joint: And some cultures eat pets, pray to wildlife and consider some sacred. That don't mean I'm gonna try it - whatever floats yer boat - as long as ya have both oars in the water! :pointlaug

I grow my own because I want to know what goes into my bud, not have to wonder what the dealer/grower used to finish his crop. I'm not Einstein nor a chemist and for me to have to sit down and figure out just what the hell is in my piss at any given moment before I feed the babies just ain't worth it fer me. It's hard enough to keep things on track with dilutes and mixtures without confusing it with more unknown quantities IMHO.

And I don't think it will be the topic of conversation at the table of growers sampling connesieur nugs. "Did you piss on this to grow it, or what?" I'm sure I'd come away from the table with a black eye or two! :laughing:

[firstavailable]

Don't take this in the wrong way, but what caprichoso said is just plain wrong.

First, as I said, you don’t need to keep a gallon of piss around to cure the piss. Just use it as it is produced.

Second, and this is partially in response to caprichoso and to 1tokeovertheline, it doesn’t really matter exactly what ratio the nutrients are in, to an extent . What I mean by that is, with urine, there will always be enough nutrients to keep the plant satisfied, and with the proper concentration, never too much. Yes, composition of the urine will vary with diet, life style, day-to-day, etc..., but not to such an extent that it will significantly affect the plant.

The original question in this thread was if urine will work as a fert. The answer to that question is, not only will it work, but it will work very well. It will work just as well as any commercial fertilizer. This has been tried, and shown to be true.


If I had the space, I would run a side-by-side comparison of urine compared to some popular ferts such as AN or BC hydro.

[Cannaba Lector]

good stuff, good stuff.

[Hitchhiker]

Loads of great info about cultivating with PP (overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?t=537514&onlyuser=&perpage=15?pagenumber=1)

There are 107 pages reading about fertilizing with PP. Loads of pics and info. It seems to work as an fertlizer.

[nukn futz]

I dont care if its so good I go into a week long coma after one hit i`m not smoking piss weed

[Guest]

and as unscientific as this is : when my dog pees in the same spot on the grass the grass kinda dies. im not going to put that on my plants. even if its free and makes an awsome N sup.

And having to keep pee in jugs seals that deal not that there was anything of having anything to do with giving my plants my pee.

They do on the other hand like it when i do back up vocals for their cover band.

[firstavailable]

sddcs4420,
the grass that your dog pees on dies because it gets oveferted with undiluted pee. If you take that same pee that your dogs pees on the grass and dilute it 10 times with water, and spray it on your grass, you will have the best lawn on the street.

I dont know about you, but I make new fresh piss every day. I don't see why anyone would need to keep pee bottled up and stored.

nukn_futz,
out of cureosity, what do you use for nutes?

[Guest]

you would rather smoke bat and cow shit, and "beneficial bacteria" than your own piss? call me self absorbed, but id rather smoke my own piss.

[strain_searcher]

If someone gave me weed that was piss grown I would grow some herb with vomit and shit in and send it back. We have too many options than stooping to such measures.

[firstavailable]

.....
What's wrong with just giving your plants a good well-balanced nute regime where ALL the macro and micro elements are all present in the correct concentrations to ensure lush and healthy growth.....
I mean - what is WRONG with that....


Nothing is wrong with that, but what you fail to realize is that urine is just such a well-balanced nute regime.

[Sinfuldreams]

I wouldn't do it
but hell Piss is Sterile right out of the hole. (certin Illness besides )

besides by the time the nutes are used by the plants it's no longer pee.
In the Army they taught us that if you need water DRINK YOUR PISS! Not someone elses! Thats directly to the body and piss can be drunk with no ill effect.

But with the Organics and othe Chem Ferts around why bother, unless your a purest. I guess if I was out of nutes, and Ceaser or Jubei wouldn't give me any LOL I'd resort to pee.
But Honestly Pee is NOT as bad as we think. All in our heads.
Sin :dueling:

[NiteTiger]

Hey, when I was broke and my plant was dying, using urine as nutes saved it.

It works. The plants love it. It's as good or better than other organic ferts. It's noob friendly. It's as cheap as it can get.

Absolutely nothing wrong with using urine as a fert, and your plants may even thank you for it.

[NiteTiger]

Hey nobodyknew, just for the record, looks like you've got a great nute setup going there, and you're right, there's absolutely no reason to switch from that to urine. I don't think anyone is saying that urine is better than what you have.

Just saying that for those that can't replicate that ideal for whatever reason, urine is a fantastic fert.

It's safe, easy to use, cheap, and very effective.

No reason to get all pissy about it ;)

[NiteTiger]

Sigh.......................... I've never been that broke and I'm sure you weren't either............
BUT
Knock yaselves out - piss up the walls even - grab that fat indica leaf and wipe ya arse with it - why stop at piss
As long as we're all going to be disgusting bastards - why not jump in the deep end - oh wait - we're there already............... :badday: :badday:

Well, assumption is the mother of all fuckup Nobodyknew, and you're dead wrong. I most certainly was that broke. Not everyone can afford to go out and drop $30-$40 bucks for nutes at any given time.

Disgusting is a matter of opinion. I personally think concentrated fish and bat shit is pretty fucking nasty, but you don't see me out there insulting growers who use them. Some folks find chemicals nasty and disgusting, it's a matter of preference.

[NiteTiger]

Actually, my girl was in flowering when piss saved her. There are many more nutes in urine than just Nitrogen.

And yes, people ARE that broke. Back in rough times, I could feed my family of four with $15 for 3 days. $30 would get us to the next paycheck. So yeah, in times like that, going and buying ferts for a hobby - I don't care if it was $1.50 - would be insane. That didn't mean I was willing to let my girl die. So I did what I had to do.

The pissy comment was a tounge in cheek pun, all in fun :)

Also, notice what you said - '...nobody's that broke - especially after the first two grows..."

Pot does not = money. It can, but it is not a given. I'd have a tough time turning pot to cash even if I wanted to cross that line.

And bro - pee weed or not, I hope ya never get busted :)

[NiteTiger]

A 'muso'? Unfamiliar term for me.

And holy crap, yeah, that pic would get the juices flowing if I happened to be anywhere within about 25 miles of that beach :D

[NiteTiger]

Ah, well don't I feel silly, considering I live in a Music town :) I wondered if that's what you meant about a nanosecond after I hit the submit button LOL

[strain_searcher]

Not to knock anyone but the reason I came here to icmag was to avoid the piss in your plant talks at overgrow.

[NiteTiger]

Not to knock anyone but the reason I came here to icmag was to avoid the piss in your plant talks at overgrow.

So you came to a grower's site to avoid growing discussion?

Odd.

[mpro]

nitetiger: I think i'm going to do that today. my bagseeds are suffering from N loss, and I don't want to use my nova on them. 1/10 mixture in water, then just water them, eh.

firstavailable: Thanks for the good information. I actually was thinking about this very thing this morning, and then found this thread.

[Guest]

THIS is a well-balanced nute regime.......blended by the makers specifically for cannabis - not tomatoes or rose bushes and so on and so forth....and refined over a number of years - by qualified chemists no less...


Growth Technology..... 2 Part Veg regime
.............................. ....................Part A...........Part B
Nitrogen(as nitrate)...................... ...3.66.............0.90
Nitrogen(as ammonium)..................... 0.25............0.00
Nitrogen(as TOTAL nitrogen)..............3.91... .........0.90....<-----
Phosphorous(water soluble)...............0.00... ..........0.80
Potassium(as nitrate)...................... .2.50.............2.50
Potassium(as phosphate)..................0. 00.............1.00
Potassium(as TOTAL Potassium).........2.50....... ......3.50
Calcium(as nitrate)...................... ....3.60..............0.00
Sulphur(as sulphate)..................... ...0.00..............2.00
Magnesium(as sulphate)...................0. 00..............1.50
Iron(as EDTA chelate)...................... 0.10..............0.00
Manganese(as EDTA chelate)............0.00...... ........0.02
Zinc(as EDTA chelate).....................0 .00..............0.004 - not a typo
Copper(as EDTA chelate)..................0.00 .............0.003
Boron(as Borax)........................ ......0.00..............0.007
Molybdenum(as sodium molybdate).....0.00........... ...0.001
Water......................... .................85.10........ ....87.20

Now that is a well-balanced veg phase nute regime.....
Are you seriously suggesting you piss all that in those quantities - cos if you are I suggest you reconsider your position cos you'd just be jiving the people...

Research and chemists can only do so much... Why do you think people use medical marijuana instead? I personally trust marijuana more than cannabrex or any of that shit... And i trust MJ more than opiates and all that shit cancer patients get for sure!

The problem with chemists... Is that they understand how everything works, or at least make an effort... But at the same time they try to make un natural solutions to probelms using chemicals... Trust me organic pot grown in soil the same strain will be nicer than your chemical hydro. And better for you too!

[strain_searcher]

So you came to a grower's site to avoid growing discussion?

Odd.

I said to avoid pissing in your plant discussions. may want to re-read post

[NiteTiger]

No, I read it just fine.

I'm just curious why you'd come to a growers forum to avoid discussions about growing?
Noone here is talking about pissing in your plants, they're talking about using urine as fertilizer - applied in the exact same manner as any other fertilizer.

So, either you didn't bother to read the thread, or we're back to coming to a growers forum to avoid growing diuscussions?

So yeah, I'm curious as to which it is.

[GreatLakes THC]

This has been a pretty informative thread and you guys sound like you have your shit together and your piss straight, but this is beginning to sound more like a growing fetish. In which case this might be better suited for the toker's den forum. Keeping this on topic though. I don't personally think I could get over the gross/yuck factor. That's just me.

GreatLakes THC

[Sinfuldreams]

This has been a pretty informative thread and you guys sound like you have your shit together and your piss straight, but this is beginning to sound more like a growing fetish. In which case this might be better suited for the toker's den forum. Keeping this on topic though. I don't personally think I could get over the gross/yuck factor. That's just me.

GreatLakes THC
Wuss
Sin :wave:

[GreatLakes THC]

Badump Ching!

lol... Howsit Sin?

GreatLakes THC

[Guest]

shit,, i mean piss,,, lmao... this tread was started as a joke based upon the reality of using urine as N with 0rganic teas and such,,,,someone asked me in the chatroom, whats the best way to add N without spending money.... so knowing that urine has been used as N in organic growing for thousands of years, i replyed piss in your nuits... then i started this thead......no one should directly piss on their plants,,,, but in the nuits as an organic solution for N is ok, and very old school....

hey,..it's easy to go broke quick these days,, if you get laid off, fired, injured, piss just might surfice ... u need N u got N,, just whip it out..

pages 1 & 2 of this thread hold very good infomation about urine as nuits...thanx to everyone for posting your input... that fact still remains the same,,, little piss and some guano, will go along way with little cost and fantastic resluts... so come on, don't knock it until u try it.

[strain_searcher]

No, I read it just fine.

I'm just curious why you'd come to a growers forum to avoid discussions about growing?
Noone here is talking about pissing in your plants, they're talking about using urine as fertilizer - applied in the exact same manner as any other fertilizer.

So, either you didn't bother to read the thread, or we're back to coming to a growers forum to avoid growing diuscussions?

So yeah, I'm curious as to which it is.

Im sorry, didnt mean to ruffle feathers. The way I see it is you can get BETTER results NOT using urine. .I doubt urine can get the same reults as my soil gets. But make sure to let the people know that you used urine in your plants before they smoke it. I wonder if snot has anything in it that could help in flower? I am almost 100% sure it does but out of repect for my friends who I share with I wont be using any.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2266sc-2-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2266sc-2.jpg)

[NiteTiger]

Nah man, I didn't get my feathers ruffled over wether to use urine or not. It's a good debate to have, and each view is valid, to an extent.

What did kinda bother me though was that your response seemed to indicate it wasn't a worthy discussion topic. Stifling discussion because your opinion differs is not a healthy environment for learning. I see tons of threads that are covered ad nauseum on other sites, and I may or may not agree with them, that doesn't mean that I should pop into them and imply the subject isn't worth discussion.

However, that's all behind us, as you have offered a valid point for debate now. And, though this may seem shocking, I agree with you :)

Sure, urine is not the end all be all of nutes, and a well balanced complete nute regimen of any kind is going to beat just urine. That doesn't mean it's not a good nutrient source for your plants. Urine is a great nute for first time growers, or those that prefer all natural sources of nutrients.

I find it interesting you think that people should be warned that weed was grown with urine. Do you also feel that growers using chemical nutes should warn users that it's grown with chemicals that can produce damage to the gastrointestinal system, blood system, skin and mucous membranes with repeated exposure? Or that, if inhaled, can lead to death?

Do you tell your friends that the weed from your garden is infested with worm and cow feces, which contain potentially deadly microbes and bacteria? Or that those that grow using guano should warn thier potential recipients that bat guano is highly toxic, and is mined by people that wear full bio-hazard gear and closed respiration system because it is so toxic?

Of course not. Why? Because all of these things are not being ingested in the final product. The plant breaks it down into basic organic compounds that it uses for fuel. The final product does not contain the nutes used in any recognizable form.

The same goes for urine. Weed grown with urine is no different than weed grown with any other nutrients. If you're going to claim urine is in the final product, then follow that logic through to your own nute regime, and see if it holds water, no pun intended :).

It comes down to personal preference, just like any other nute formulation, and should be evaluated as such. People seeking information about it should not be ridiculed or treated like idiots.

Of course this is a public forum, and everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, and should be encouraged to share that opinion. But at least provide facts as well, so that a valid contribution to knowledge is made.

[mpro]

I just gave my 5 plants some 1/10 mix. I noticed improvment on one of the heavily damaged plants after a few hours. All in all it only took about 20 minutes to do everything. But I'm just fuckin' around with these plants, won't be using pee in my dwc.

But in an emergancy...go for it.

[Hitchhiker]

My chilis are doing fine with piss. Diluted 1 to 10 and I use aquarium water where to mix urine. No problems and my habaneros don't taste like piss. I have also 2 Black Dominas feeded by urine. They are also doing fine.

I'm not forced to use urine. This is just an experiment and it works. Maybe it's not the best fertilizer but it is very potential one.

[firstavailable]

Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day

That looks pretty complete to me. Theres no argument as to weather plants do well with urine as a fert. It is obveouse to anyone who has ever tried it or seen a grow based on urine.

If you can't get your head around using something that didn't come in a pretty cardboard box or wraped up in shrink wrap, that is a personal issue and completely irelevent.

[nukn futz]

nukn_futz,
out of cureosity, what do you use for nutes?



GH nutes

[Guest]

energy put in = energy put out :chin:

[Guest]

big trees like urine

[Guest]

this guy told his buddies he was growing with urine :pointlaug

[Guest]

:yoinks:

[Guest]

let me know how it tastes :yummy:

[Guest]

in the beginning adam pissed on a plant

[Guest]

and god said it was good

[Guest]

I read it in the bible

[Guest]

so it must be true

[CaptainTrips]

I have been using just urine (diluted 10:1) on my current grow. The plants look awesome. They are just going into flower. I am going to use urine on one plant exclusively, the others will get normal furts. Looks like I got 3 females, 4 males. Two of the females are Euforia, of about the same size... will be curious how the urine fares. Of coarse if it starts looking bad or something (doubtful), i might have to make changes.

[Guest]

:wave:

[firstavailable]

CT,
thats awesome. I look forward to following your experiment. Are you able you post pics?


CR,
adding PK is helpfull, but not necisary. Urine has a good bit of PK already in it. Not as much as N, but enough. Although, you are right in saying that it is definitely benaficial to suppliment PK during bloom, and there will be a noticeable benafit.

When I was growing, I used bone meal to suppliment during bloom.