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chuckyoufarley
06-22-2005, 02:42 AM
well this is gonna be a test run on a small scale for now
this is what i did ,i took a rubbermaid tub (small1) and i put 2 air wands in the bottom
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_001.jpg)
my air pump has 2 hoses coming off it to the wands, i took 2 small pots and drilled a bunch of 1/4 " holes all over and put them in the top of tub after cutting the holes in the top of course DOH
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_002.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_004-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_004.jpg)
and whalahh
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_005-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577tubbler_005.jpg)
a tubbler
ok i'll will just be using water at first i imagine but how long before i use some weak nutes ?2 weeks or so ? i gonna ask alot of prolly dumb Q's but thats how i learn . this HYDRO thing is NEW to me gonna start out with 2 NL x BB
from female seeds their lil tails just popped out today
wikidcalibudgrl
06-22-2005, 03:06 AM
:woohoo: Go Chucky!! Hope ya like the Hydro!! I think 2 weeks aould be ok to start feedin~ lightly, what ya gunna be feedin them? and what lighting ya got for um too :wink:,, I'll be lerkin around watchin you go 'Dro!
~Wikid -MCL-
chuckyoufarley
06-22-2005, 03:11 AM
SUP wikid (MCL) im gonna try some EJ organic local hydro store (like 40 mins from me )
carries a good selection of nutes we will see and im just using CFL 's for now 4 100
watters
Guest
06-22-2005, 03:16 AM
Did'nt you try hydro before? Or was that Beans? Hmmm.. :chin:
Two weeks is good I usually give it till the 4th node or so. What nutes you gonna us? PBP is pretty fool proof in hydro if not AN would be great. It does'nt get any simpler than DWC either. The golden rule of hydro is PH stability. Keep that in check along with res temp and there's no missing. Good luck. Let us water growers know if ya need something.
Blatant :respect:
Sleepy
06-22-2005, 03:37 AM
alright, chuck!!
yeah, that'll work just fine! :yummy:
what strains??
zeppelindood
06-22-2005, 04:40 AM
TAKE COVER.... RUN.... SEEK SHELTER.... HIDE.... FAST!!!!!
haha
I've pondered it too.. hope you dig it...
buzzerd
06-22-2005, 05:03 AM
hey hey chuck.get them feet wet bro.....2 weeks is too long you can start them right out of the shoot 200-400 ppm recomened clone strenght no problems and that's with GH 3 part or flora nova ...check out my test grow you'll see
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=12425 :wave:
Guest
06-22-2005, 07:33 AM
Chuck,
Fuckin A!Thats one fine Tubbler man :wave: You gonna grow some crazy weed aint ya!I am amazed at the growth from this style,you will be two :yummy:
Guest
06-22-2005, 12:00 PM
Good Luck Chuck.. :fsu: ... <~ and i mean in a good way..
I hope it all goes well and like said above res temps and PH kept in check..
ill be hanging around to see.. this happen.. again good luck im sure you will do just fine though.. peace..
sack :friends: :canabis: :joint:
chuckyoufarley
06-22-2005, 03:16 PM
thank you thank you thank you looks like im gonna have plenty o help for this lil adventure
Guest
06-22-2005, 04:59 PM
Looking good bro, i like watching other guys do hydro because im hopeless at it :bat: look forward to seeing some monsters in those tubs :sasmokin:
Guest
06-22-2005, 10:36 PM
Chuck
I forgot to say how nice the setup was.. I may make me one of these for our lil space.. this winter.. As i thought we would have lots of room. But noway, nohow..
Nephews wife will not let us take over.. She is gettig greedy with the space.. :yoinks:
So its going to be smaller than we had hoped for.. Anyhow you probably will see something similar in our space.. thanx for sharing.. and if i can help in any way.. Ill try.. peace..
Sack's First Outdoor Grow (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11794)
Started 12/12.. Pics soon...
sack :friends: :canabis: :joint:
chuckyoufarley
06-23-2005, 03:02 AM
i got this nute stick for free
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577hydro_stuff_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577hydro_stuff_003.jpg)
and heres the tub ,the beans had lil tails when i put them in the rapid rooters
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577hydro_stuff_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577hydro_stuff_001.jpg)
gonna be under 400 watts cfl's entire grow just a lil experment :woohoo:
tokeAcola
06-23-2005, 03:22 AM
:woohoo: Go Chucky!
Hydro's so simple you'll wonder why you didn't switch sooner. Nice DIY system. Like B-man said, just watch the ph and temp. I usually go about two weeks with plain water, as soon as they start showing a slight def that's when I hit 'em with a 1/4 strength nute mix, then go from there.
Good Luck!
toke :joint:
KillBillbuds
06-23-2005, 03:55 AM
Hi Chucky! :wave: Good luck with your hydro experiment! My :2cents: to share - I use a very small submersible pump & attach a drip line to it. I find it will circulate your nutients more & keep your medium moist. This is especially helpful when your starting your DWC with seedlings or newly rooted clones. The water level is not as much an issue this way also. If you feel the pump might be heating up your rez, you put a small frozen water bottle in the rez to cool down. I haven't had any problems though. I do use the air wands as well, in addition. Hope you have fun!
Peace :ying:KBB:ying:
chuckyoufarley
06-23-2005, 05:27 AM
sup TOKE thanx for stoppin in i still got a shit load in soil at the main spot i been missing have something here to play with so IM PLAYING NOW :woohoo:
high killbill i imagine i'll be trying all diff ways till i find the 1 suits me ,i like the drip thing tho
maybee i'll build another and compare :chin: :yoinks:
mrwags
06-23-2005, 10:36 AM
Did'nt you try hydro before? Or was that Beans? Hmmm.. :chin:
Two weeks is good I usually give it till the 4th node or so. What nutes you gonna us? PBP is pretty fool proof in hydro if not AN would be great. It does'nt get any simpler than DWC either. The golden rule of hydro is PH stability. Keep that in check along with res temp and there's no missing. Good luck. Let us water growers know if ya need something.
Blatant :respect:
I gotta agree PBP is totally dummy proof. Welcome to Hydro Chuck wait until you see how fast those beans are gonna root in that bad ass getto fab tub.
Enjoy
Mr.Wags
chuckyoufarley
06-23-2005, 03:11 PM
high MRWAGS thanx for checking out my getto grow tub i just know its gonna give me some good nuggage LOL
chuckyoufarley
06-25-2005, 02:22 AM
well its 2 days later already down to 1 seedling .tried to help the seedling shed its lil seed husk hat ane the big stoned fingers weren't much help :yoinks: but have no fear i have another 1 in the paper towels :woohoo:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577getto_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577getto_003.jpg)
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chuckyoufarley
06-27-2005, 07:03 AM
well 2nd seed germ and is in the rapid rooter plug and heres a couple shots of the ROOT thats rite i said ROOT not roots :pointlaug :yoinks:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577roots1_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577roots1_007.jpg)
:yummy: :yoinks:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577roots1_006-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577roots1_006.jpg)
go baby go :woohoo: :woohoo: :joint:
chuckyoufarley
07-02-2005, 04:35 AM
9 -10 days old lil NLxBB
pic is blurry cuz fan was on
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_001.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_002.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_004-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxbb_004.jpg) :woohoo: :woohoo:
Sleepy
07-02-2005, 04:45 AM
aint it just amazing?!?!?! :yoinks: :woohoo:
nice work, chuck!!
easy cheesy! :sasmokin:
Guest
07-02-2005, 04:53 AM
lookin goooood bro... i am yet to delve into the great depths of hydroponics... are there any good organic nutrients for hydroponics?
chuckyoufarley
07-02-2005, 06:25 AM
thanx sleepy ,it is amazing, no dirt,no lil f---ing bugs and i can pour it down the drain when discarding used grow WATER :jump: i just went and got some ph up and ph down forgot a thermometer :bat: get that tomorrow
SUP angry scientist thanx for checking out my lil expirment i ve been a soil grower lil over 3 yrs and this is just to easy check the ph daily check rez temp and amount top it off if needed
im told that PBP is organic and is simple to use
chuckyoufarley
07-03-2005, 01:24 AM
im using PBP grow for veg it says use a 1/4 oz to a gal what is a 1/4oz converted to teaspoon or tablespoon thanx for the help (hint hint )
Sleepy
07-03-2005, 04:00 AM
1/4 oz. =1/2 Tablespoon
Online Conversions (http://www.onlineconversion.com/)
chuckyoufarley
07-03-2005, 08:02 AM
thanx sleepy im using a lil less than 1/2 dose since she is so young ph is 6.5 i got a ppm meter it read between 200-300 rez temp is 70.7 f i put a 24oz bottle 1/2 frozen in cuz the temp was 78.8 without it she looks healthy
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577fourplay_nlbb_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577fourplay_nlbb_007.jpg)
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packn2puff
07-04-2005, 03:56 AM
So simple..why not...Right on Chuck..bubble some buds out of that ghetto box.. :headbange
I'm learnin too... :lurk:
chuckyoufarley
07-04-2005, 08:31 PM
has anybody ever thought about using 1 of these car cooler for a small dwc system you can fill the cooler with your H2o and nutes and plug it in and it will keep the solution cool ,just a getto idea i got whilst stoned from this morning wake-n-bake (ak 48 )mmmmmmmmmmm :joint:
http://www.compactappliance.com/xq/JSP.detailmain/Koolatron_Traveler_9_Quart_12_ Volt_Cooler/itemID.851/itemType.PRODUCT/iMainCat.548/iSubCat.567/iProductID.851/qx/shopping/product/P9.htm
Guest
07-04-2005, 08:39 PM
:chin: been thinking about this myself . :woohoo: i hope ya grow a bud so big it breaks through ya roof lol
chuckyoufarley
07-05-2005, 09:32 PM
heres a question for the hydro heads how do i know when i should add nutes
i already gave her some and was wondering how i will know when the next feeding should be
Guest
07-05-2005, 09:35 PM
Chuck,
Ya get in the car and drive yer ass to Troy to the dro shop and pick up a tds meter,short of that you will be doing the dump every other week and adding back to full strength,good growin ya got happenin Chuck,gotta do the hook-up soon!
chuckyoufarley
07-06-2005, 02:30 AM
hey bro there 1 a lil closer then troy is this what you mean
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577hydro_stuff_003.jpg
Guest
07-06-2005, 02:36 AM
Chuck,
See,now you know what your tds is,that dipstick tells ya everything,but you know that,in them buckets im runnin,i keep the level rite up like it says on the back of the gh 3 part for seedling,veg and flower,we been keepin it up as high as they take it,rock the hydro Chuck!
chuckyoufarley
07-07-2005, 03:40 AM
go lil one go
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxBB_0041-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxBB_0041.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxBB_0031-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577nlxBB_0031.jpg)
chuckyoufarley
07-09-2005, 06:08 PM
my lil expirment has gone a lil screwy cant seem to keep the ph to 6/6.5
my plants leaves are turning a very light green and looking sorta striped .
am feeding PNP 1/4 strength
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577problems_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577problems_003.jpg)
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JohnBudd
07-12-2005, 03:07 PM
Hey Chucky, you go boy in the water..........once you get hydro dialed in, you are in for a treat.
The way I tell when I need a refresh or a top-off is when after filling resivoir, ph and ppm will jump around for a bit, then settle to hopefully around 800 ppm during veg, and around 1200ppm during flower.
What happens is after the plants have sucked all the goodness out of the juice, the ph tends to drift, and your ppm will start to jump higher......this means it is time to add some fresh juice for the girls. This is only after system has been running and ph and ppm have been steady during flooods. Here is every 3-4 days to top off. I try to empty res and refill every other week with fresh water and nutes.
I got a Hanna dual meter continious meter, ph/ppm-tds, it ran me $200, but without it, getting the ph or ppm right would be very difficult. You are going to have to spend the money to get quality tools. It makes things much easier.
There is no more dirt in this house, and I don't miss it!
Dr. D
07-12-2005, 03:19 PM
wot u using for ur ph control chucky? iv never had ph probs in mine or any probs for that matter...yield is awesome from bubblers heres my last plant in my bubbler
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2885Picture_164-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2885Picture_164.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2885Picture_155-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2885Picture_155.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2885Picture_157-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2885Picture_157.jpg)
yielded 90 grams love it..im just got mine out the cupboard and got a Dank in veg in there...peace and good luck with ur first hydro grow
chuckyoufarley
07-12-2005, 03:53 PM
holy fuggin rootball DR.D man thats awesome hopfuly i can achieve them results im getting PH thing uder control i wasnt PHing the water before topping the rez off .im using tap water
Dr. D
07-12-2005, 04:02 PM
Hey chucky i didnt kep an eye on my ph with the last grow, sometimes it went up to 7 and i had no probs with it i dont like stickin too much ph down in there, too much chems!! heres a link to my latest bubbler grow... http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=13327&page=1 do u use any root stims or anything??
chuckyoufarley
07-15-2005, 08:26 PM
well i dont know what i did but i wish i didn't do whatever it is that i did :biglaugh: what else do i need besides PBP grow and PBP flower is there something im missing like the lil xtra micro stuff arrrggggghhhhh hydro is scaring me :confused: :biglaugh:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577dwC_004-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577dwC_004.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577dwC_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577dwC_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577dwC_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577dwC_002.jpg)
Sleepy
07-15-2005, 08:46 PM
Cal-Mag is a nice supplement...also by the makers of PBP...
you can really go nuts with the additives... :wink:
the diamond nectar (or any fulvic acid) will help, too -you can foliar feed all your plants with it.
Guest
07-15-2005, 11:56 PM
Chuck get you some Liquid Karma. It has plenty of the Micro/Macro doohickies. I use it for seedlings up till the need more N then give them the Grow Fert. Since you said your using Tap water the yellowing is definitely from the PH drift. I would normally say the MG is out of wack but Tap has that added into it already. Just remember about Organic Nutrients that the EC/PPM are gonna be higher than the Chem nutes.
The main problem seems to come from the Small resevoir you have. Which makes PH drift a bitch to keep in order. The bigger the rez the better off you are.
Blatant :wave:
chuckyoufarley
07-16-2005, 12:05 AM
the rez is 10 gals ive upgraded since the first pic
JohnBudd
07-16-2005, 03:49 AM
Hey chuckyoufarley, the deal with hydro is either bad ph or bad ppm...too high/low.....my suggestion is flush with straight H20....2-3 days hope to see new growth looking much better. I think you have too high a level of nutes.....clear the rez and start with fresh H20..........let them run a day or 3 with just straight water.....then dump res....add fresh again....and very, very little bit of nutes.....run 2-3 more days that way....and they should be back to full on. Lets hope. Too little is way better than too much in hydro....plants can get along but if you overfert they go south quick.
Nietzke has a FAQ section over at OG which shows great pics and problems related to the particular leaf look. Very helpful.
Go easy with nutes/additives as most everything plants need is in H20....
good luck bro....my suggestion is Hanna continious PH/PPM meter.....$200...ouch I know...but kind of important part.
chuckyoufarley
07-16-2005, 09:17 AM
thanx brudda john i did empty and clean rez today and i will flush for a couple 3 days or so and i have been looking into the meter im gonna have to get one anyway cuz
im going to go hydro over at the other grow over the winter the pest thing at my other grow is drving me nucking futs i think they come in the fuggin soil myself
chuckyoufarley
07-21-2005, 04:00 AM
well the new growth is looking healty and i added a grape punch or a lifesaver clone it dont look to good yet but the roots are starting to show
at the bottom of the netpot so it wont be long now
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5777_20_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5777_20_001.jpg)
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chuckyoufarley
07-21-2005, 05:50 AM
here we are on 6/27/05
1 whole root :woohoo:
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577roots1_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577roots1_007.jpg)
here we are today
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5777_20_roots_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5777_20_roots_003.jpg) :yoinks: :woohoo: :yoinks: :woohoo:
the 1 on the left is the GP or LS know better when she starts growing again
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5777_20_roots_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5777_20_roots_001.jpg)
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Guest
07-21-2005, 08:26 PM
good stuff chucky, all it takes is one root and the rest is history :joint:
Guest
07-22-2005, 12:07 AM
Chuck
Sucks to burn.. Believe me i know... Hey But they look like they have recovered.. Thats the nice thing about hydro you see it quicker than soil... And can combat it obviously quicker.. And change out the whole res and with soil much harder.. THats why i am hydro more..But am digging the soil. thing just things happen more slow and alot deadlier imo in soil.. Looking good though keep at it.. And change that rez every 2 weeks make it habit.. And i think the probs should go away.. i think i see more probs with DWC hydro then the others Mut maybe im high.. lol.. Ihave used a constant drip feed system with the plants in the res.. And my PH drops only after about a week..
Then in my outfeed do hicky i drilled a hole to let water run thru that and move the water inthe rez and add o2.. And noticed my PH was not staying stable.. and bounced around a lil bit.. So that why i think it has to do with that.. But im not smart enough to figure it out.. Maybe someone can add to this and enlighten.. peace..
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KillBillbuds
07-22-2005, 06:11 AM
Hey Chuck,
I've had some PH problems with DWC. Not as bad as you've experienced, but this what I noticed. When you raise the Nutrient level up, the PH shouldn't drift as much. Early on with young plants or clones, I use a weak nutient level and I noticed I had to monitor the PH daily and make slight adjustments. Just a little more babysitting in the beginning. I'm no expert...just sharing my experiences and I'm goin DWC with PBP as well. Looks like your on your way to a full recovery. Take care & good luck.
Peace KBB
chuckyoufarley
07-22-2005, 06:39 AM
high KILLBILLBUDS thanx for lookin in on the girls ph seems to be evening out im gettin the hang of it .
Sleepy
07-22-2005, 08:23 PM
Damn, Chuck!
roots lookin' real good now!
nice recovery. :dueling:
chuckyoufarley
07-25-2005, 05:32 AM
well i inherited a plant today it is a clone from a clone that i gave someone
1 1/2 yr ago and he made a mom and handed out clones flowered the mom and his crew gave him back a clone 1 1/2 months ago and this is it i have to get her back to white roots i think, she's been in just 2gals water with weak nutes since he got her .look how big the stem got .
oh yeah when i got this it was a clone and i was told it was KUSH XHAZE
and she is some of the best cannabis i've ever smoked in 31 yrs puffin
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577new_plant_025-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577new_plant_025.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577new_plant_027-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577new_plant_027.jpg)
and now my lil expirment
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Guest
07-25-2005, 06:14 AM
**she is some of the best cannabis i've ever smoked in 31 yrs puffin**
That sounds pretty damn good chucky, looks like your getting the hang of hydro mate :joint:
mrwags
07-25-2005, 07:03 AM
[QUOTE=chuckyoufarley]well i dont know what i did but i wish i didn't do whatever it is that i did :biglaugh: what else do i need besides PBP grow and PBP flower is there something im missing like the lil xtra micro stuff arrrggggghhhhh hydro is scaring me :confused: :biglaugh:
Sorry for being away chucky but have been working on my new room. Understand pbp is a great nute but you also gotta use (well at least I highly recommend) Liquid Karma and Cal Mag is a plus as well. I've even use Hydroguard and A little Silica Blast to complete the Biotanicare food regimate. In the year I've used all of these together I have had fantastic results but as I said I use them all but I must say if you don't want to use them all Cal Mag is a must at least get this one. Hope this helps. I'll keep an eye out this time.
Mr.Wags
chuckyoufarley
08-07-2005, 09:19 PM
i dont know why but my plants do just fine in the tap water and when i add the (very little nutes ) the plants show nute burn so im just using tap for now
Dr. D
08-07-2005, 10:55 PM
i dont know why but my plants do just fine in the tap water and when i add the (very little nutes ) the plants show nute burn so im just using tap for now thats strange chucky :chin: any idea wot E.C ur water is ?? and are u adjusting the ph bfore or after addin nutes?
chuckyoufarley
08-13-2005, 05:04 AM
ARRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
what is my problem here i only used 1/4 teaspoon PBP veg in 3gals water ph 6.0
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_002.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_001.jpg)
mrwags
08-13-2005, 06:28 AM
There screaming for some cal-mag chuck.
Mr.Wags
Guest
08-13-2005, 05:13 PM
yeah i think i got to ad some cal-mag to my girls too..
chuckyoufarley
08-13-2005, 06:33 PM
when you hydro heads give the nutes do you add all the cal mag silica blast and nutes all at once then ph correct it then dump in rez ?
chuckyoufarley
08-13-2005, 09:22 PM
a lil help please lol
BuzzBoy
08-13-2005, 09:52 PM
well after stopping by and seeing how easy it is to start a hydro grow im going to go out and build me a cab! :D thanks CYF. mines going to be all CFL as well, maybe a 70watt HPS or two.. maybe. good luck CYF sorry i cant help.. yet. :)
Guest
08-14-2005, 12:09 AM
Thats what I do Chuck. I keep a good eye on the rez the next 12 hours to see if any fluctuations are going on. Beyond that...... Sucks your having these problems. It's a cakewalk after everything is dialed in. Good Luck
Blatant :wave:
Guest
08-14-2005, 12:22 AM
mix the nutes seperately into a 5 gallon bucket full of water to your desired levels and fill your res with that, you don't want to mix raw nutes together before they are diluted, as it may cause chemical bonding and nutrient lockout.
Also, do your PH corrections after you have mixed and added all the nutes. They have their built in PH buffers that attempt to hold the nute mix to a certian level.
THC
chuckyoufarley
08-14-2005, 03:10 AM
well thanx very much for the help i went and got the botanicare cal-mag
mrwags
08-14-2005, 10:14 AM
ARRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
what is my problem here i only used 1/4 teaspoon PBP veg in 3gals water ph 6.0
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_002.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577deff_001.jpg)
With your girls being this big Chuck you should be using atleast 1/2 oz per gallon of pure blend veg. It's organic and the buffer does work once adjusted. I've found that using ph up and ph down will kill the buffer. You will see the results of the cal-mag right before your eyes. I've noticed you also are gonna use the Silicia Blast? if so next run use it from the start,it helps get your girls strong and healthy and ready for the heat if that does become a problem. ThCaeser and Blatant are both spot on with their advice as usual. You will also find that a good dose of Liquid Karma thrown into the mix will do wonders as well.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_00021-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_00021.JPG)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_00051-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_00051.JPG)
These shots are a week old. I run Pure Blend Pro Veg,Blast Off,Liquid Karma,Cal-Mag and Hydroguard it cost a little more to use it all in buckets but you to will see there is not an easier way to grow than the total Bio Line of nutes. Good Luck Chucky.
Mr.Wags
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_00041-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/2102IMG_00041.JPG)
chuckyoufarley
08-24-2005, 06:48 AM
BLATANT ,MR WAGS ,THCAESAR thanx for the help peeps i didnt get the liquid karma or the silica blast yet but we are doin better then before
started 12/12 2 weeks ago and here we are now
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577utoh_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577utoh_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577utoh_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577utoh_002.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577utoh_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/577utoh_001.jpg)
i think she looks better :woohoo:
mrwags
08-24-2005, 09:41 AM
Hell yes chucky they are in fact sucking up that cal-mag as we speak. When you added it did you sit back and watch the leaves change? But chucky I'm telling ya you gotta try the Liquid Karma It flat out is one of the best additives ever. i wont troll your thread but take a look at my buckets with the full line of Biotanicare food regimate. My girls went from babys to 2 foot in 21 days this stuff works wonders and is very forgiving when you screw up. Can't wait to see the fruits of your labor, I myself will be flipping on Thursday and will keep an eye peeled for your frosty BUDS.
Mr.Wags
chuckyoufarley
08-24-2005, 03:38 PM
TAHNX WAGS i will go get some this weekend
ok who uses the waterfarm 8 bucket kit im thinking about trying that out for the winter .so lemme know plus's, negatives THANX
Sleepy
08-24-2005, 05:20 PM
glad to see she's recovering, chucky...
i don't have the answers, so i didn't want to post up, sorry...
the only negative thing i saw with my waterfarm grow of grape punch was:
>pH drifting (rez not big enough)
>roots choking on themselves later in flowering.
up until then the thing was auto pilot!
chuckyoufarley
08-24-2005, 09:26 PM
thanx sleepy can the roots be trimed just like when keeping a mom in soil my friend pulls her up when root bound and he trims the rootball and plants back into the same pot
JohnBudd
08-25-2005, 04:55 PM
Hey Chuck, whats happening friend.
My motto when growing is: If its not broke, don't fix it.
If you get good results with tap water....go with it, thats about as organic as you can get. Your tap must be heavy with metals, and other bs.
If you keep your ph around 6.0 +_ 0.2.....and tds around 600 for veg, 1000 for flower, you will never see another funky leaf....honest.
Folks are being overwhelmed with additives, boosters, and way way too much stuff for a simple weed. Keep it simple, less is best.
Nice plants.
chuckyoufarley
08-25-2005, 09:55 PM
HEY BROTHER JOHNBUDD great to see ya cecking in was thinking about ya the other day and dug out my address book and was gonna write ya a letter just to say whats up and hows your new place treating ya you know just the general q's
Guest
08-25-2005, 10:03 PM
Hey chucky wishing ya the best on your first hydro grow man, it's looking good so far and i'm sure those buds will be of the finest quality when you are done!
chuckyoufarley
08-31-2005, 05:45 AM
well i think im 3 weeks into 12/12 and all is going great guns heres my northen light X big bud from female seeds and the lil thing next to her is a clone of either grape punch or lifesaver i gave a bunch to my tattoo artist and he grew some moms cloned them but didnt mark them DOH but i
what ever i got will be good
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_002.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_001.jpg)
and this is another case of me given clones away and the person i gave 1 to made a mom and that was like 2yrs ago now wnd i got a clone of that same plant that i gave away its called KUSH HAZE very viggerous growth i prolly taken and given away to my friends 25-30 clones from this plant in the last month and she's just puttin out the branches
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_008-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_008.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_006-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_006.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5778-30_ut_oh_007.jpg)
chuckyoufarley
09-21-2005, 06:36 AM
heres some pics of some frosty lil nuggletts
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_004-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_004.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_002.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5779-20_001.jpg) :woohoo: :woohoo:
i went to the hydro store today and FINALLY got the silica blast and the liquid karma
and while there in line the guy in front of me is buying these big ass containers of ADVANCED nutes and while the counter dude is writing up the reciept who strolls in the door but LEO just 1 but 1's enough in a hydro store anywho he starts talking to the owner of the store and just general BSing
and he's checking out my tattoos and me and at what im buying and then looks at what the other guy is buying and his eyes are a lil wider now so the other gut walks away from the counter im over in the isle so he comes over by me and im like (in my head ) get the fuck away from me i not with the guy buying industrial size jugs of nutes and with the amount that shit cost the cop prolly was like yeah right you spend that kinda money on growing veggies so any way all went ok iguess nobody followed me out or home so it worked out just a lil sketchy for a few minutes ,and the other guy looked like he just shit his pants when that cop walked in
BuzzBoy
09-21-2005, 03:01 PM
Good to hear your run-in with the LEO was uneventful. Remember they are there to protect and serve as well, maybe as soon as you walked out of the hydro store you could have been mugged and a cop was right inside. Or maybe not. But anyway at least all is well right. Nice budshots too.:biggrin:
Guest
09-21-2005, 09:35 PM
chucky ive already got a paranoia problem about goin into hyrdo stores your story just made it worse hehe nah jokes aside your plants r lookin great man :joint:
GreatLakes THC
09-22-2005, 02:03 AM
Get to know the owner. Perhaps you can arrange to call your order in ahead of time. Pay in the front and pick-up in the back. Worth a shot.
GreatLakes THC
chuckyoufarley
10-02-2005, 02:06 AM
well i chopped my NL X BB and she was full of beans prolly why it was so scrawny
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57710-1_005-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57710-1_005.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57710-1_006-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57710-1_006.jpg)
Sleepy
10-15-2005, 10:40 PM
sorry about the seeds...
will you try hydro again?
did you run these thru your hash bags?
chuckyoufarley
10-16-2005, 04:56 AM
sup sleepy i didnt run it thru the bags wasnt enough but i did smoke it ,it was good smoke prolly would have been better if it didnt start cross dressing on me but
i put the plant thru hell learning the DWC thing not surprised if i stressed
her/him = shim lol .but right after i got mine they were off SB for a while wonder if i got a bad batch ,oh well ya get what ya get eh .and i am going to keep trying the DWC thing i think i got the hang of it ,i went and got all the nutes PBPveg,PBP bloom
cal-mag, liquid karma,silica blast
thankx for stopping by bro
JohnBudd
10-16-2005, 03:44 PM
Chucky, mad props to you for finishing up your first hydro grow with anything that resembles pot. I killed more great genetics getting hydro to work.
This tale of LEO in the dro store has my bladder about ready to leak! I would reconsider going there again, IMO. 77hydro is a nice mail order firm with all the bells and whistles(thanx Smokey) .........my .02, but go with your gut....
How's the weather there friend? Floating away yet? Serious, serious water here in NH....be safe friend....and keep the canoe handy! :joint:
chuckyoufarley
10-19-2005, 03:57 PM
all right guys and gals a lil help .i have a 10 gal rubbermaid tub for DWC the clones came from a mature plant(blue moonshine,apollos trip )the white lil nubs are starting to show roots .i need to know from the PBP users how much i should mix for newly rooted clones ,i hve PBP grow, PBP bloom ,cal-mag,liquid karma ,and silica blast .how much of each for a weak solution ,i just wanna get this right i already did 1 practice grow but still need alil help
spanx peeps
Sleepy
10-19-2005, 10:26 PM
i would start real weak. like 200-400 PPM...
chuckyoufarley
11-13-2005, 07:21 AM
well here we have on the right sour wonder or apollos trip not sure (stoner moment )
left is blue moonshine
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-12_DWC2-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-12_DWC2.jpg)
and a root shot
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-12_DWC-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-12_DWC.jpg)
how often should i use the liuid karma and silica blast
Guest
11-13-2005, 11:38 AM
Chucky chuck
Howz it man? Hydro or soil your grows rock.. Man sucks you had a shim in the bunch..
But as long as teh smoke was good.. Lookin foward to see how the next hydro goes for ya.. Good luck man.. Im doing DWC and all is good so far.. Fingers are crossed.. Be back soon peace..
Sack's First Outdoor Grow (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11794)
LQQK see.. All threads new updates on 11/01/05
Sack's Bubbledust Outdoor Grow (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=13519)
Sack's Cappuccino OD Grow (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=13630)
Sack's Limon OD Grow (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=13769)
sack :friends: :canabis: :joint:
chuckyoufarley
11-13-2005, 08:27 PM
brudda SACKO wassup my friend this DWC this is pretty cool alot faster then the dirt
but im still doin the dirt to (not doing the dirt thats nasty )but growin in the dirt you know lol.thanx for peekin
Sleepy
11-13-2005, 11:42 PM
glad to see you back at it!
hopefully a more knowledgeable hydro person can answer your questions about LK, and silica blast
i would say with each rez change, but i'm not sure.
got any cal-mag?? should help with the yellowing...unless its the light.
should be a great run, chuck!! :lurk:
chuckyoufarley
11-13-2005, 11:47 PM
hey hey sleppy good to see ya yeah i got some cal-mag but the yellowing is the floros that they're under i put some in with the nutes but being the plants are still small they havent used mush water or nutes so i guess when i have to put more nutes thats when i add the LK -Sb so i guess i answered my own Q
chuckyoufarley
11-18-2005, 02:25 AM
well my lil clones are gettin bigger by the dat we have blue moonshine on the left and apollos trip or sour wonder i think its the latter,i also picked up these new compact floros but they are built like a flood light with the crome reflector rite on the glass pretty fuggin cool mang
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine_2_.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine_1_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine_1_.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine_3_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine_3_.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57711-17blue_moonshine.jpg)
chuckyoufarley
11-21-2005, 04:58 AM
well its that time in the ole DWC cab ,going 12/12 tonight the plants are really liking the new cfl i picked up at HD
chuckyoufarley
12-10-2005, 04:58 PM
the roots look a lil daker i think its the nutes im using ,PBP bloom,silica blast liquid karma ,cal mag ,the liquid karma is very dark turns the soloution dark
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_008-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_008.jpg)
rez stays about this temp
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_007.jpg)
and heres the kiddies
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_006-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_006.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-09_DWC_001.jpg)
chuckyoufarley
12-27-2005, 05:07 AM
some sour wonder
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_005-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_005.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_004-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_004.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_001-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_001.jpg)
blue moonshine
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_003-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_003.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57712-26_002.jpg)
just giving them a flush for a few days and then back to the nutes im like 4 weeks in i think
Rodriguez
12-27-2005, 01:22 PM
nice shots man looking good :sasmokin:
chuckyoufarley
01-10-2006, 04:58 AM
some sour wonder
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_012-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_012.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_007-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_007.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_006-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_006.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_005-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_005.jpg)
and a lil blue moonshine
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_009-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_009.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_008-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57701-09_008.jpg)
Guest
01-10-2006, 05:23 AM
REMEMBER! Heat s the enemy! :dueling: After a couple of failed but saved attemtps (putem in soil) in the summer, I decided to wait until the temps dropped and :woohoo: SUCCESS!!! I've never seen growth like this. Hereis the excact setup I built http://www.overgrow.com/article.php?articleid=12 I did 7 bubblers in a circular setup. Here is a pic of them (clones) at 2.5 weeks veg, 2 days after they went into the 36 hour dark to start the flowering.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/6585IMG_1149-thumb.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/6585IMG_1149.JPG)
The lighting is a little wierd because the hps just kicked on. They have exploded in the last couple of days. I you like the smaller set-up your working with now you may want to consider this. :canabis:
chuckyoufarley
01-10-2006, 07:29 AM
cyburnt high very nice garden ya got there . all my other grows are soil this is just alil expirment and to keep a lil sumpin going around here as my other stuff is elsewhere like 45 mins from home this is closer
heres my soil stuff actually its promix
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57710-16the_box_1_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/57710-16the_box_1_.jpg)
Guest
01-10-2006, 09:28 AM
I've got 3 projects going now myself. I dragged the moms out for a photo shoot the other (day 32 day flower in dirt), http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=18941 , The strange thing is that the DWC clones are about to overtake the moms in size. I have NEVER seen anything grow this fast. Some of the fans are the size of cereal boxes :yoinks: If it wasn't for the summer heat, I would probably do nothing but DWC year round. I'm sold!. :woohoo:
Rodriguez
01-10-2006, 06:06 PM
cyburnt i agree, the heat is what stops me from being dwc all year round too :joint:
gday chucky howzit goin mate, thought id stop by and peep the girls :sasmokin:
chuckyoufarley
01-10-2006, 09:18 PM
my brudda from down unda whats up mate how are ya im loving the dwc thing and i could prolly use it in the summer but at this spot i just stop for the hotness but the other spot is in a basement and stays pretty much cool yr round but i cant count
on me cuz to check shit everyday so's ill just stay soil there shame to i also have a 3'x3'
nft table with rez and pump ,the whole shabang
Harry Gypsna
01-11-2006, 12:32 AM
Looking good chuck....i love hydro now ive finally got the 1st flowering under my belt....
Hey Cyburnt...ur flower room is about the same shape as mine...i did a double take then i almost thought it was mine for a minute lol...
chuckyoufarley
01-13-2006, 03:08 PM
harry what it is bro tanx for peepin the girls
how long should i flush my DWC system im at 54 days 12/12
tanx for any help
chuckyoufarley
01-14-2006, 07:32 AM
here some sour wonder at 54 days 12/12 trich's are clouding up flowering under cpf's 4x100 and im still in the learning phase and it has been berry berry interestink and fun
theres also a blue moonshine clone thats just about done so we in the flushing stage starting tonight
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770113_SOUR_WONDER_2_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770113_SOUR_WONDER_2_.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770113_SOUR_WONDER_1_-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770113_SOUR_WONDER_1_.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770113_SOUR_WONDER-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770113_SOUR_WONDER.jpg)
chuckyoufarley
01-19-2006, 06:57 AM
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770118_004-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770118_004.jpg)
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770118_002-thumb.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/5770118_002.jpg)
Guest
01-19-2006, 07:24 AM
right when ur harvesting rub all the resin off the leaves iwth your right thumb and make a little charas.
Rodriguez
02-06-2006, 11:22 AM
Are those frosty nugs from under a flouro light mate?
Looking good man :joint:
Farmer John
02-06-2006, 01:04 PM
Nice bro, this looks berry berry interestink indeed, nice buds! :wave:
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