Bet you will get Penis Envy !!

[Brother Bear]

got a few syringes about 5 minutes ago :yes:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=7227&pictureid=122596

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=7227&pictureid=122597

stay tuned friends :abduct:

[shack]

Hey Brother B.,your penis is gonna look like a pin cushion.:laughing:

[Hovz]

wait, im confused please don't tell me ur injecting those in ur penis, your growing mushrooms right?

[Brother Bear]

yes sir i am sticking all 20 of them straight into my penis :joint:
it's gonna get so big, everyone here will have Penis Envy.
:nanana:

[Hazy Lady]

Hello Brother Bear, I find these mushroom spore 'kit's' - for the want of a better word - fascinating, could you perhaps take us through what is involved, the briefest of outlines would be fine, thank-you very much.

[Hazy Lady]

yes sir i am sticking all 20 of them straight into my penis :joint:
it's gonna get so big, everyone here will have Penis Envy.
:nanana:
Not everyone BB, our mum taught us as long as we have one of 'these' we can get one of 'those' anytime :noway:

[Brother Bear]

Hazy Lady - there is a link right in my signature for you ma'am
please have a look :yes: and follow along with this thread i will post all the information i know
:smoweed:

[Brother Bear]

Not everyone BB, our mum taught us as long as we have one of 'these' we can get one of 'those' anytime :noway:

LOL

Hovz - of course both Shack and myself were joking friend, i hope you got that ?

[Hovz]

Im pulling up a seat, how much for the spores??

[Hazy Lady]

Of course i knew you were joking BB :), I will take a look at the thread now, thanks again

[shack]

Hey Brother B, sorry to cause confusion in your thread.
But yeah,I never grew mushrooms,always wondered how it was done though.
I'll be following your thread.,as I know you know your shit.

[VT_Fire]

20 syringes...not bad. how many jars are you planning to colonize? i usually get about 6-7 half pinters per syringe but i know of people who get 8 or 9...I usually give each jar a little extra. My buddy is growing out some PE in mono tubs right now...deff look cool but he only gets a few big fruits...I like having big clusters rather than just a few big guys, more fun to look at hah. Anyways good luck and can't wait to see how things come along! :joint:

[ocean99]

AHHHH fucking east coast, lucky bastards. I gotta drive to fucking nevada to get spores.... RAAAEEEGGGG.

[sackoweed]

hmmm good thread
I will definitely watch this.. Thanx for sharing.. peace..

sack

[79towncar]

BrotherBear, do you always start from multispore? Or do you ever start from a stock culture?? The reason I ask is because if you use other ways you will never have to buy a syringe again.. You could just keep cultures stored and only purchase a syringe if you are attempting a new strain..

[masterKahn]

this thread has been tagged!

[dkmonk]

sweet always wanted to grow shrooms, just never took the leap

[og kush]

sweet always wanted to grow shrooms, just never took the leap


same here. im very interested though........

[MOneYMiKe]

yes sir i am sticking all 20 of them straight into my penis :joint:
it's gonna get so big, everyone here will have Penis Envy.
:nanana:

HAHA!im sorry........back to penis envy........

[Bill O'Reilly]

Are you going to spawn to a bulk substrate like horse manure, or will you just do PF cakes??

I would definitely make some liquid culture either way.

Here's some info if you don't already have it.
http://www.shroomery.org/9378/High-Quality-Liquid-Culture-Step-by-Step


BILLO

[Smiler]

Onboard and intersted

[Strainbrain]

Nice, BB. I haven't tried mushies since I was 19... I didn't get the sterility right and only 2/8 cakes made it. Never ended up fruiting, probably a humidity issue. I'd love to give it a 'grown-up try' though, and I've got a spare bedroom at the house right now. :D

Where do you like to get your spores?

-s

[Brother Bear]

Hovz - got them for $10 each cause i got so many

VT_Fire - one syringe does 8 jars for me, i use all 8 cakes for each tub then :yes:

79towncar - yes i always start from multispore
i like to support the companies :yes:
do have a bottle of Karo, but it is over a year old and i don't expect to use it anyhow

Bill O'Reilly - thanks for the link, no plans for the Liquid culture friend :ying: i plan to just do cakes then crumble into tubs

strainbrain - google mushroom spores :yes: they are sold all over the net very legal like - i like sporeworks

thank you all for visiting the thread :friends: :wave:

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wanted one of these for 13 years of growing shrooms now, finally got one !!!

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moving along slowly now, just try and enjoy the show my friends
there are many many ways to grow cubies, i know we would all do it differently :rasta:
happy with my methods, and i just hope to inspire some new growers with these simple old teks
no offense to anyone, and i do appreciate the time taken to help...:respect:

i would like some tips on the pressure cooker though, i have never used one before :bongsmi:

[johnyhash]

Looking good Brother Bear, cant wait to see those shrooms grow, nice strain choice. Thirteen years of growing mush and you just got a pressure cooker now... its about time hehe. Peace.

[79towncar]

For the cooker use the minimal amount of water needed.. Using more water only takes it longer to start boiling.. Make sure you elevate the jars off the bottom of the cooker.. If you leave them directly on the bottom the jars can crack.. Since you have so many jars I would use spare lids to get them off the bottom.. When you stack multuiple rows of jars use some tinfoil between each stacked layer.. Cook at 15 PSI for a full hour.. Some people go 90minutes but with BRF you can cook for an hour.. After your done let the cooker sit overnight before you try and open it.. If you depressurize it too fast you can crack jars.. Also always wait for the jars to cool before innoculation.. Hot jars and substrate can drastically reduce the amount of viable spores.. If I think of anything else I will let youu know. Or if you have a specific question let me know.. Goodluck!

[Strainbrain]

We like slow, BB, gives us time to pack more bowls. Thanks for the lead... I know they're still legal in the states, but so are plumbers and I ask friends for referrals when I need one of those, too. :smoke:

-s

[Aeroguerilla]

what do you estimate dry yield per syringe? in a perfect world

[AbbieDoobie]

Brother Bear,

It would be an honor and delight to jab every one of those syringes into my penis.

~Abbie :joint:

[cellardweller]

:laughing::laughing::laughing:
:yeahthats

cool beans Brother Bear! I have been thinkin about tappin some jars myself lately..:chin:

[Sister Sara]

yes sir i am sticking all 20 of them straight into my penis :joint:
it's gonna get so big, everyone here will have Penis Envy.
:nanana:

:laughing:

Pics, please. *snicker*

[Organic Rooster]

Just getting started into this myself. 2 weeks ago I knocked up 12 jars with brazil, 10 jars with cambodian, and gonna make a quart LC jar of each. Growing pot and shrooms is a great time.

[Bill O'Reilly]

WOW BB looks like your are ready to go.

My personal experience with the techniques you are about to perform were filled with lots of hard work and then much disappointment in the end. This could be due to my ineptness at the time as well. Overall the shrooms were low in potency, and there weren't that many of them. My friend took them and the wierdest thing that happened was he went to the store and thought the lady in front of him was a parallelogram. Maybe that is a little wierd but he said that was the height of it.

You will increase the payoff for all your effort EXPONENTIALLY if you switch to wild bird seed (WBS) and then spawn to a dung substrate. You already have a jumbo sized PC (I have the same one coincidentally....it's awesome) so working with large amounts of WBS is no prob for you.

If you get some plastic spawn bags and a small impulse sealer it will increase your efficiency by a lot.
http://www.mycosupply.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=SBFP01
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOOD-SAVER-VAC-550-Vaccuum-Sealer-Bags-VHS-Video_W0QQitemZ110417513394QQc mdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDoma in_0?hash=item19b5658bb2

WBS is much much more nutritious (POTENCY), and these dung substrates can hold tons of water (YIELD). Mushrooms are 90% H2O after all.

You could just make 1 quart of liquid culture. That could easily generate 300mL of beautiful mycelium-saturated nutrient solution in 1 week. That could make 30 10mL syringes of solution. Each syringe could innoculate 3 filter spawn bags. 3 bags hold about 10lbs of dry bird seed. You spawn to bulk substrate (dung) at a rate of 1:4. So say we take 30 lbs of horse manure for each 10lbs of dung to have nice ratio with big flushes. I'm kind of stoned so lets see if I get this right.

30 syringes x 3 bags/syringe x 3.33 lbs WBS/bag = 300 lbs of WBS

300 lbs WBS x 30 lbs dung/10 lbs WBS = 900 lbs of horse manure

You could fruit from all that just by making 1 little quart of LC.

PC tips:
Use the metal plate they gave you to not let the jars touch the bottom of the PC.

Cover jars with aluminum foil, and set into the PC as the water comes to a boil.

Once boiling put lid on and reduce heat to med-high while pressurizing.

Once at 15 psi, reduce heat as much as possible while still maintaining pressure.

ALLOW TO DEPRESSURIZE NATURALLY

Take out jars, remove foil, and wipe of excess water from top with paper towel.

Put a coffee filter over top and secure with rubberband, allow to cool for 12 hrs.

I like to PC the jars first and then put a glob of "High-temperature RTV silicone" on the injection hole. After allowing to cure for 24 hours you have a self-healing injection port. You can also use the expanding spongy ear plug you might be able to get at wally world as an injection port.



Last of all, I've seen the way you grow weed dude and it's beautiful, you know how to cultivate life.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/thumbs/50597monotub4.jpg (http://www.icmag.com/ic/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=760918)


Feel free to PM if you have Q


-BILLO

[simple green]

Ahhh glad I found this place...How the mushes coming along???

[masterKahn]

the suspense is killing me and i'm to lazy to go look at shroomery for pics

[nuke]

Using different substrates does not affect potency, genetics affect potency.

The only thing you gain from bulk substrate is weight harvested.

The only way to consistently get more potent mushrooms is to isolate.

With brf you dont need a pressure cooker.

Anxious to see some pics brother, looks like youve got more than enuf to keep yourself happy.

[accessndx]

what do you estimate dry yield per syringe? in a perfect world

That's absolutely 1000% impossible to determine. It entirely depends on how much substrate/medium you're using. If you innoculate 10000 lbs of medium....or 1 small mason jar.....eventually given ideal conditions...the mycelium will grown and consume it all. It has no upward growth limitation. If it had a medium the size of the Earth, it would eventually consume it...LOL.

However, let's just say you can do quite a few jars with a syringe as BB eluded to...I think 8 jars....
You can take and roll that media into much larger batches of media, infinitely...and then get the mushies to fruit whenever it reaches a critical mass of mycelia.

Honestly: 1 syringe is all you ever need if you can keep an innoculated culture around. But that's a gross oversimplification.....

[cocktail frank]

awesome bro bear!!
you gonna be on another planet soon enough with all that action going on.
i'd also give u some K+ for the new avatar, but "you need to spread some rep........"

[79towncar]

Access You make a good point about keeping a culture going.. But one thing to remember is that you should fruit your isolates every year and then take more cultures from that.. You can't really just keep mycellium multiplying over and over and over.. If this were the case growers would just use some of there bulk substrate to innoculate more bulk substrate and so on and so on.. It doesn't work that way.. Mycellium after about 2 grain to grain transfers should be frited.. That's the reason why commercial mushroom farmers always start from spawn.. They mix there spawn to a bulk substrate (compost) and then they fruit..

[motaloca]

yes sir i am sticking all 20 of them straight into my penis :joint:
it's gonna get so big, everyone here will have Penis Envy.
:nanana:

Not only will everybody have penis envy, yo will be able to use this line" Wanna get high? Suck my dick"http://www.icmag.com/ic/images/smilies/laughing.gif

[billsus]

Using different substrates does not affect potency, genetics affect potency.

The only thing you gain from bulk substrate is weight harvested.


No way man. Poo/compost shrooms (on average) are much more potent than brf cake shrooms. I've done both myself, and substrate means a lot.

[79towncar]

No way man. Poo/compost shrooms (on average) are much more potent than brf cake shrooms. I've done both myself, and substrate means a lot. No he's right substrate does not effect potency.. What you probabily experenced was different genetics or better growing conditions.. For mushrooms to be at there peak potency potential they must be cultivated right.. Bulk spawn only adds more yeild but doesn't effect potency.. If that were the case nobody would even bother with any other substrate..

[Peat]

Woops! :yoinks:
Almost missed this one completely!

:lurk:

[VT_Fire]

No he's right substrate does not effect potency.. What you probabily experenced was different genetics or better growing conditions.. For mushrooms to be at there peak potency potential they must be cultivated right.. Bulk spawn only adds more yeild but doesn't effect potency.. If that were the case nobody would even bother with any other substrate..

sry to get a bit off topic but 79 do you know if there is a potency difference depending on when you harvest? I've heard that they are at peak potency right before the veil breaks, but i really dont think it'd make that much of a difference

[journeyquest]

When i lived up in Oregon we would go out to the country where the cows lived and pick em while the rain came down. The liberty caps were great. Hard to grow.

[79towncar]

sry to get a bit off topic but 79 do you know if there is a potency difference depending on when you harvest? I've heard that they are at peak potency right before the veil breaks, but i really dont think it'd make that much of a difference
This is a good question but it's also very subjective.. Some people think once a mushroom grows it has the same amount of active chemicals throughout it's entire grow phase.. So if you were to pick a mushroom before of after the veil breaks it won't really make a difference.. The reason most people pick before the veil breaks is so they don't deposit spores and turn everything black.. So if you pick 5 small mushrooms that weigh 4 grams and 2 large mushrooms that weigh 4 grams you will probabily trip harder off the 5 small ones.. Reason being that you are eating more mushrooms even tho they are the same weight.. So smaller mushrooms usually mean a higher concentration of active chemicals.. But like I said before this is all subjective there are just too many variables.. Genes play the biggest factor in potency and don't let anybody else tell you different.. Substrate, size of mushrooms, number of pins, time of harvest and anything along those lines DO NOT effect potency.. Genes and the quality of the growing enviorment play a much much bigger role.. A mushroom will be at it's highest potency potential when grown properly with a proven sub-strain..

So my reccomendation would be to pick the mushrooms as the veil starts to tear.. This way you won't have to deal with mushrooms full of black spores.. Some people like huge caps so they wait until the caps of the mushrooms open up all the way and deposits it's spores.. Afterwards they either wipe the spores off the top of the caps of just dry them as is

[VT_Fire]

yeah it's funny I remember checking on my cakes one day and seeing black shit all over the place (spores) and thinking it was all contaminated...hah dumbass. :rolleyes: It's deff easier and less messy picking before the veil breaks but it just looks so much cooler when the caps are all open....

is it true that the cakes will no longer fruit on the spots where spores drop? sry not tryin to jack this thread but i got questions for days..not like we can't at learn somethin tho. I cannot wait for my next set of jars to finish colonizing and move away from the cakes and onto mono tubs:joint:

[sackoweed]

I wonder how long this gurl sat here and though hmmm how the hell can i fit this in?

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/709697/80552606.jpg
I had to post this.. sorry but the title of this thread was so fitting.. lol.. no pun intended..

peace.

sack

[Brother Bear]

wow this thread is moving right along huh :yes:
told you guys you would get penis envy

SOME TUNES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cEy8-cGHyI&feature=related) :rasta:

some brew :yes:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=7227&pictureid=134918

making jars = 1/2 cup Vermiculite - 1/4 Brown rice flower - aprox 55 ML water

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remember leave about half inch for the dry verm top

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sophisticated water measuring :ying:

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Cooling jars

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older picture of some PE

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:smoweed:

[AbbieDoobie]

Can't rep you any more, BB.

Nice tunes.

Gettin' 'er done.

I'm glad yer makin' jars instead of jabbing your penis.

I'm envious.

~Abbie :joint:

[79towncar]

haha Abbie..

[B.C.]

Thanks fer sharing BB! BC

[79towncar]

yeah it's funny I remember checking on my cakes one day and seeing black shit all over the place (spores) and thinking it was all contaminated...hah dumbass. :rolleyes: It's deff easier and less messy picking before the veil breaks but it just looks so much cooler when the caps are all open....

is it true that the cakes will no longer fruit on the spots where spores drop? sry not tryin to jack this thread but i got questions for days..not like we can't at learn somethin tho. I cannot wait for my next set of jars to finish colonizing and move away from the cakes and onto mono tubs:joint:

This is not true.. Cakes will still fruit in these spots.. The spores make a mess but don't do much damage... When the substrate is really distroyed from picking a flush and from spores dropping, here's a good technique.. Cover the holes in the monotub with surgical tape and put it back into "incubation" conditions for about 2 days.. Then re-introduce your tubs to fruiting conditions... This will let the mycelium recover and even grow some... Also if you don't like spores, you can always work to isolate a sub-strain that doesn't produce much spores, or a strrain that produces a lighter color spore.. How is this possible? Well let's think one minute..

Everybody has seen and probabily grew the most famous novelty Cubensis strain ever, named "Penis Envy"... One of the other most distinct characteristics of Penis Envy (besides it's phallic shape ha) is it's inabilty to produce a good spore print... The mutated gene that gives Penis Envy it's distinct shape is also what makes it not produce much spores... This potentially can be crossed with another one of your isolates... Thus your end result has the potential to display characteristics of the other parents qualities (whatever they may be) and also produce little to no spores... So You can have a potent, high yeilding and fast growing strain that also produces little to no spores... I seen a strain that was a "spore-haters" dream before... This strain was really the "holy grail" of Cubensis... The girl who isolated it names it "Magic Hats"... Named after the famous beer.. TRADEMARKED!!! DO NOT BITE OFF ME!!!! Even tho she bit off Magic Hat HAHAHA.. Well I guess it's OK then..... BUT WAIT!!! Make sure to always, I mean ALWAYS!! Give credit to the famous (haha yea right) 79TOWNCAR FROM ICMAG.COM!!! So experiment!! Get rid of them spores...

P.S.!! This is something I forgot and is also very useful.. Spores taste very very bad!!! Mushrooms picked before the veil breaks are always in my opinion much better tasting... I really want to see people isolate better tasting sub-strains... Nobody even talks about this in the advanced mushroom forums around the WEB.. People often mock me and I think they are stupid stupid people.. Tasty shrooms can potentially give you a very marketable product... Women will definetly buy good tasting active mushrooms... Also the fresh idea of it.. It's a great idea.. Thus it gives you an edge in a very agressive market.. If somebody can corner the market with a tasty shroom, it's all over!!

[pothead6]

k time for a stupid ? ive been told that shroom spoors are legal in the us but not legal to grow or have is this true or no ? by spoors i mean the ones that make trippy shrooms lol

[VT_Fire]

pothead-you heard right the spores are legal to possess ( and order online) in any state besides georgia and california..thats right suckers you may have way more leniant mj laws but you can't get the spores! :laughing: Don't know why CA and GA are the only states where they are illegal...but once you start growing them...then I'm pretty sure it's a felony no matter where ya are. the spores you get online are labeled for microscopy use (for science...riiiiiiight)

79- I had heard from an inexperienced friend about the spots where spores drop not fruiting (1st mistake was listening to him he's given me plenty of bad advice before, got one mushie grow bag under his belt and all of a sudden he's an expert lol)
And very true about creating a substrain with no spores that'll taste better...just think why do mushroom chocolates always sell faster than straight bags...most ppl hate the taste. most kids only put like 2 grams in and sell the chocolates as 8th's...but thats a whole 'nother story
Very cool about the "magic hats" as they're my fav. beer, brewed in VT baby! :joint:

[Brother Bear]

three states that is, illegal in Idaho as well :no:

[pothead6]

thanks im planning on getting some spores and giving this a shot last time i was on ic they didnt have a mushroom section so im kinda pumped that they do now means ill be able to get some help when i start mine lol