Amsterdam...2010?

[KMK0420]

So me and my buddy were pretty much highed up and decided it would be an amazing idea to go to Amsterdam, for him it would be his first and mine the second. Last time i went was april 2007, so a lot has changed in that short period i hear..

first question..

when does the govt in holland/amsterdam plan on making cannabis sales something residents only can purchase? i heard this was going to be going through as law.

second..

i know you are allowed to take firearms on planes, but only in checked luggage. does anyone happen to know the legalities of concealed carry in amsterdam? the ONLY reason i ask is because i was put in some very akward positions over there from only the blacks (this is not a racist statement, its simply denoting the race of the people who attempt to do the upcoming thing), and i was warned about it before i went...apparently what they do (mostly immigrants) follow you (tourists) and say/whisper things like "psst....charlie" or "charlie charlie" or "psstt...buy some coke"....basically "drug dealers" proposition you frequently.

i was caught many a time walking back to my hotel by myself and propositioned from multiple dudes and at times i was purposely bumped into by groups of these immigrants...and one i think made a comment about "getting me" or something along those lines. i also met a friend who was robbed the previous year, as they caught him in an alley after sundown. for an american, it being pitch black on some streets, 3 am...nobody around...and you have your passport on you...can be scary!

now i hear from the locals this isnt a "big problem"....and its only in certain areas (primarily the RLD, where i stayed) and if you get on the outskirts, you dont have the problem "as much".

question is, due to my previous experience, considered bringing my firearm...now im sure i can get it there, but the question is...does anyone know the law over there for a US citizen to bring a firearm into their country (given with proper us documentation/licenses)...i PROBABLY won't even take it if i go. just would like to know for reference purposes

and can anyone maybe give me a good place to go for good hash over there? i got some but apparently it wasnt TOO great..anyway..

any of you who have been there chime in,

oh! also...places to get good food!

[daddy fingaz]

Best to put this in the 'Amsterdam Experience' thread buddy!

and wtf is all that about firearms, your asking for trouble, just ignore the street dealers i know there annoying but shootin em is a bit far!!:noway:

[DogBoy]

Are you for real?
Bring the firearm but be sure to tell customs. They are keen to fill the country with Armed invaders, it makes them feel safe.


lol

[Eliyaz]

If you dont mind me saying so, bringing a firearm to any european country is stupid. I know some states in the US have the same "gun-laws" as some third world countries but being civil in europe also means not running around with a loaded gun. If you have problems with being mugged go to the police. The last thing we need in Europe is cowboys running around shooting in "self defense".
Just like in any other big city there are places you go at night and there are places you DONT go. Street dealers dont mug you, they just annoy you...
Your trip will probably only get better if you dont all the time have to be aware of where your gun is so you are ready.
Besides if anyone see you carry a gun, they will take it as you are the mugger/gangster/psycho...just leave it dude...and have a nice trip...

[KMK0420]

wow, talk about some people flying off the handle...

A) have a gun put to your head and be seconds from dying, then come and try to call someone a "cowboy". i was almost killed before, very close to the 6th homicide in May 2006 in my city. i have every right to consider the options i have for protection, not to mention i was partially threatened by these "Street dealers" and someone i knew WAS robbed.

B) it was a question. again i PROBABLY wont take it, but i'm debating it back and forth. i probably won't because its more of a hassle to worry about it in my luggage and/or carrying it.


enough about the gun thing.

what about hash? where are the best places for that? how about food? :)

[Eliyaz]

bringing a gun to amsterdam is "flying of the handle"...
"Getting almost killed" isnt something that happens on a normal scale in Amsterdam. Your best defense is keeping away from certain parts of Amsterdam. If you have to pull a gun it almost certainly already went wrong...
I really cant see why you are in need of a gun more than the thousands that goes to Amsterdam each year and they dont get killed...:noway:
Sorry, but running around with guns isnt something to be taken lightly hence my comments... :-)

[KMK0420]

bringing a gun to amsterdam is "flying of the handle"...
"Getting almost killed" isnt something that happens on a normal scale in Amsterdam. Your best defense is keeping away from certain parts of Amsterdam. If you have to pull a gun it almost certainly already went wrong...
I really cant see why you are in need of a gun more than the thousands that goes to Amsterdam each year and they dont get killed...:noway:
Sorry, but running around with guns isnt something to be taken lightly hence my comments... :-)

unfortunately you do not know what it feels like to literally almost be killed (ironically, with a handgun to my head.)

second, no, taking a weapon for personal protection is NOT "off the handle" in any fashion in today's world...i don't give a fuck if it's amsterdam or thailand, or whatever country people are crazy! yea "statistics" show low incidents yes, but again for you to say CONSIDERING taking a weapon is flying off the handle...brother you are a hermit and have no idea what's going on in the world

[wvkindbud38]

Guys alot of places in the USA is dangerous.......alot of people carry guns everyday and there not all cowboys lol......it's just common in the US for alot of people to carry small caliber hand guns for safety. I know KMk it would make you feel alot better to carry but I wouldn't carry outside of the US.......like somebody said you don't wanna shot some piece of street trash. Besides if your going with a friend this time it should be safer with 2 people rather than you by yourself..........I carry a small hand gun in my vehicle for safety as do alot of Americans......but that doesn't mean we go shootin before we think. My gun has been under my seat probably 10 years and I've never needed it but I like to know I got it if needed. KMK leave the gun home and you and your friend watch each others back and enjoy yourselves man.

I don't think it's off the handle to consider carry a small firearm.......but I'd leave it home and watch each others back and have a good time......besides if you had to shot somebody out of the country it's hard to say what kinda shit you'd get it.....I can't beleive how some of these guys over react.......he didn't say that he's taking a AR15 to the dam.....he's just concerned about his safety and I don't blame him. But like someone said just call a cop if the street trash gets out of hand

[whiterabbit9]

c'mon guys be nice! ^
everyone has good intentions, one guy is used to america, and one guy isn't too fond of guns..

I went there alone, and I was pretty young, baby face too

I know about the blacks your talking about (Brown and Black)
try not to make eye contact, that's the trick I learned
p.s. if your thinking of buying drugs from them, your gonna get robbed/beaten/sold crap

there are also some crackheads roaming

first night I arrived I was looking for a room, crackhead came up to me, WHATSUP?

only that time, I looked at him, was wondering .... whatsup ?

other then that , OH

like 9 guys ran after me at the bus station, so I know what's up.....
run boy run!!

I ran to the shawarma (falafel) shop, and when they saw the crowd, they just stood there lol, fuckers.... then they waited for me at a bridge, but I thrusted my instincts, and found another way around, I then spent the rest of my time, in another building... fucked up man, to live things like that
\\

I carried my passport in my sock... in my shoe...

there are also some passport/money carrying pouches you strap on to your leg, or you put under your pants... check into that

[deathtosoapbar]

So me and my buddy were pretty much highed up and decided it would be an amazing idea to go to Amsterdam, for him it would be his first and mine the second. Last time i went was april 2007, so a lot has changed in that short period i hear..

first question..

when does the govt in holland/amsterdam plan on making cannabis sales something residents only can purchase? i heard this was going to be going through as law.

second..

i know you are allowed to take firearms on planes, but only in checked luggage. does anyone happen to know the legalities of concealed carry in amsterdam? the ONLY reason i ask is because i was put in some very akward positions over there from only the blacks (this is not a racist statement, its simply denoting the race of the people who attempt to do the upcoming thing), and i was warned about it before i went...apparently what they do (mostly immigrants) follow you (tourists) and say/whisper things like "psst....charlie" or "charlie charlie" or "psstt...buy some coke"....basically "drug dealers" proposition you frequently.

i was caught many a time walking back to my hotel by myself and propositioned from multiple dudes and at times i was purposely bumped into by groups of these immigrants...and one i think made a comment about "getting me" or something along those lines. i also met a friend who was robbed the previous year, as they caught him in an alley after sundown. for an american, it being pitch black on some streets, 3 am...nobody around...and you have your passport on you...can be scary!

now i hear from the locals this isnt a "big problem"....and its only in certain areas (primarily the RLD, where i stayed) and if you get on the outskirts, you dont have the problem "as much".

question is, due to my previous experience, considered bringing my firearm...now im sure i can get it there, but the question is...does anyone know the law over there for a US citizen to bring a firearm into their country (given with proper us documentation/licenses)...i PROBABLY won't even take it if i go. just would like to know for reference purposes

and can anyone maybe give me a good place to go for good hash over there? i got some but apparently it wasnt TOO great..anyway..

any of you who have been there chime in,

oh! also...places to get good food!

Man for fucks sake are you serious? Taking a gun to holland? Sort of defeats the objective of a peaceful holiday right? If you feel that intimidated by street dealers to the point of wanting to carry a gun its not worth going it aint the US if you shot someone in holland your goin jail..not a great end to a holiday, personally i go to holland for a peaceful time in comparison to the UK its friendly...lol ive got this vision of you going round dam staggering around stoned with a gun...few tips dont get a hotel in the red light area and you ll find you get hassled less...i got hassled a few times but blanked them out...go to the dampkring and buy the best moroccan hash on the menu...and you ll find youve lost all desire to carry a gun! As for food try the Dam Steakhouse that garlic sauce is fuckin addictive! Good luck

[ojd]

all i can say is leave that gun at home
you would probaly be arested at airport(europeans dont like guns)unless your the police or a serious criminal(big cocain dealer)

the people you are talking of are long gone

i remember the first time i went it was crazy after dark
big groups of junkies openly smoking crack or h
but they are gone(into hiding anyway)
you still get the ocasional guy saying pssst coke weed ecstacy but you just say no and walk on,even if they walk with you just ignore them and they will leave to find someone else interested
ive been over 50 times and have never had any trouble and i walk home everynight by myself

it has changed dramaticly
much cleaner less junkies and just much safer
check out these coffeshops and you will have a grest time

dampkring
katsu
grey area
amnesia
barneys
bushdocter
for hash check the riffman menu of hash in the dampkring

[mr.haze420]

call the duch emabassy/consulate and ask them what the law is concerning the transportation of a firearm to holland, i doubt that you will be allowed to bring a handgun, an exception might be made for a hunting rifle. www.surefire.com get a 2-300 lumen disabling flashlight

[KMK0420]

lol guys if you dont mind, i dropped the gun issue awhile ago..

and yes, those of you who responded so seriously are over-reacting. i face a much different reality than you do, or that you understand... again im 98% not going to take it, it was a simple question to probe.

secondly thanks ojd on the recommendations...

i also heard shrooms in the park is fun too...lol

[Kush_Master]

wtf why would you bring a firearm to amsterdam??
its a safe city, been there many times wandering around late at night all alone, high/drunk as fuck. no problems. just say no to the drug peddlers and theyll leave you alone. I havent even been approached by them last time i visited (in 2008).

i dont know about america but around here you sure dont need any guns, noone carries them except police. is it that bad in america that you cant leave the house without a weapon? im curious b/c that kind of thinking is very different from around here you know...

anywayabout the coffeeshops closing down/only selling to locals. they talk about this year after year after year and and it never happens. i think its down to 4-5grams a shop but then you just go to different shops, easy.

bluebird is a great shop for hash
other good shops are barneys, dampkring, abraxas, grey area, tweede kamer.
lots of crappy shops too so make sure you do your research before you go.

i don't give a fuck if it's amsterdam or thailand, or whatever country people are crazy!

dude youre paranoid.
ive been to amsterdam and thailand too and always felt safe. sure theres bad ppl everywhere but i just stay away from trouble, works for me. carrying a gun would make me feel LESS safe actually (having it on me implies im in danger already). anyway thats ot but really hard to understand for a non-us citizen.

[KMK0420]

yes i think the misunderstanding is coming from people who don't live inner-city in america..

yes, its that bad.

on my block alone (which my neighborhood was once known for the elderly):

- house next door robbed for copper
- 2 houses down neighbor robbed in broad daylight on his porch
- 3 houses down an officer was killed in a shooting

...and thats just my block...not to mention i was almost killed...

but again...i was only curious....i wont bring a gun, i debated it and it isnt even worth the hassle of contacting consulates etc.

[Kush_Master]

wow thats fucked up man! kinda puts your paranoia in perspective then! ;)
but dont worry europe is very safe in general, we dont have ghettos and huge crime rate here. ive been to lots of major cities, also eastern europe and "bad neighbourhoods" (hell some ppl consider my hood a ghetto lol), ive never had a problem in my life. so i hope you have a good time here, and check out the ho's in rld theyre top notch! :D

[Eliyaz]

unfortunately you do not know what it feels like to literally almost be killed (ironically, with a handgun to my head.)

second, no, taking a weapon for personal protection is NOT "off the handle" in any fashion in today's world...i don't give a fuck if it's amsterdam or thailand, or whatever country people are crazy! yea "statistics" show low incidents yes, but again for you to say CONSIDERING taking a weapon is flying off the handle...brother you are a hermit and have no idea what's going on in the world

I am not a hermit and I do know what is going on in the world. What I am saying to you know is not meant to sound aggressive, provocative or the like. I mean it sincerely.

I am a former soldier who has been stationed both in Kosovo and Afghanistan so I do know the intimidation arms can have. Nevertheless I am sincerely convinced that guns DO NOT belong in the hands of civil people since it only accumulates more violence. The main purpose of UN soldiers in Kosovo was actually to DISARM the locals...think about that...
Besides Amsterdam IS NOT in the US, so just because you run around with guns in the US doesnt make it alright in our part of the world.

I am not trying to lecture you of the dangers in your part of the world and so should you not try to lecture me about the dangers in mine. You asked a question and I am trying to give you my best answer. Bare in mind my answer comes from actually knowing something about european society...

You will be more safe in Amsterdam WITHOUT a gun than the US WITH a gun...thats all Im saying... ;-)

[esbe]

my my, how could you even consider bringing a gun to adam, looool

[McSnappler]

:yeahthats

I really wouldn't worry about the RLD drug "pushers" - if you know how to walk straight on without making eye contact, you can leave your gun at home.

[whiterabbit9]

you are on post 777 you should feel lucky
maybe go to the casino ? lol

[Sir_Nugget]

if they want to kill you, just let em

[smurfin'herb]

Was in the dam in 07. Walking just outside of the RLD at about 11-12 at night with a friend. Walking thru a crowd this man comes up asking for money. We keep walking and he does the same and keeps hassling us. I told the man i was giving no money and he left me alone and went over to my friend to bug him. For some dumb reason my friend was in like deer in headlights mode from the nervousness and was not paying attention to where he was going and walked away from the crowd into a darker side street...! I just dropped back a tad and watched this man bug my friend. All of the sudden this guy just says "GIVE me your money NOW" and pulled out a decent size knife at my buddy. I immediatley ran up on him from behind, disarmed him, and checked his ass into the canal. Ill def be bringing my knife with me next time i visit. A gun isnt really neccessary imo tho. Plus even if you could bring a gun there, you know it would probly be the biggest hassle in the world in order to get it there legally. Paperwork, backround checks, fingerprinting ect... Not worth it overall.

[Joe Budden]

How about ya learn ninjutsu before going, ask GN, he's the bionic ninja :D:D Sure he could give you a few pointers lol

[esbe]

how about not going to adam if you cant go without weapons?

[Joe Budden]

how about not going to adam if you cant go without weapons?

It does seem a bit over the top bringing a firearm with you, first you will never get to bring a gun to Amsterdam, USA has some relaxed gun laws compared to the rest of the world. What happened if you actually shot someone lol, they would more than likely lock you up, just stay in a group and hope for the best is my advice, ya could meby risk it and bring over some pepper spray?

[zoidb3rg]

c'mon guys be nice! ^
everyone has good intentions, one guy is used to america, and one guy isn't too fond of guns..

I went there alone, and I was pretty young, baby face too

I know about the blacks your talking about (Brown and Black)
try not to make eye contact, that's the trick I learned
p.s. if your thinking of buying drugs from them, your gonna get robbed/beaten/sold crap

there are also some crackheads roaming

first night I arrived I was looking for a room, crackhead came up to me, WHATSUP?

only that time, I looked at him, was wondering .... whatsup ?

other then that , OH

like 9 guys ran after me at the bus station, so I know what's up.....
run boy run!!

I ran to the shawarma (falafel) shop, and when they saw the crowd, they just stood there lol, fuckers.... then they waited for me at a bridge, but I thrusted my instincts, and found another way around, I then spent the rest of my time, in another building... fucked up man, to live things like that
\\

I carried my passport in my sock... in my shoe...

there are also some passport/money carrying pouches you strap on to your leg, or you put under your pants... check into that

It's a little simpler IMO to not walk around like a mug, i've been twice, offered coke and various other drugs about 20 times, "No" does nicely.

I had some guy come up to me and i swear he must have said the name of every drug under the sun, i refused them one after the other and was trying to walk forwards the whole time but you know how busy A'dam gets.

[zoidb3rg]

my my, how could you even consider bringing a gun to adam, looool

I know, crazy shit!

[exploziv_gbb]

If you don't bother to talk back to them, I think you will be safe.
I was there multiple times, carrying lots of money with me (many times I had the money to buy a car from Germany with me in the bag I was carring around my neck) and had no problem visiting coffeshops and shops around and inside RLD stoned and having the money with me.

[KMK0420]

LOL, yall are still talkin about the gun thing.

CMON people, i need locations of good hash and food!!

[smurfin'herb]

Ive been told the bluebird has good hash selection. As far as food goes.....good luck buddy, i was there for 10 days and found nothing that i would consider good food. Theres a mcdonalds in dam square, kinda by the swisshotel, but i was too scared to eat there. Who knows, maybe its good, i never liked mcdonalds anyways. ...

[DogBoy]

You people fight like girls. Bring a fist, not a firearm.

[TrichyTrichy]

Bring your best head-but technique

[KMK0420]

lol i'm not too concerned either way. the gun thing was a simple question.

i will rumble in the streets if it gets to that point...

but Again..

i didnt have too many problems aside from being threatened.

anyway, i met the guy who runs the coffeeshop directory site...

http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/

i met him and his wife, brits if i remember correctly. they took me and this dude from arizona i met there to their random ass fancy thai restaurant in the CUT...

nobody spoke english there so he had to order our food and i just pointed at the menu lmao and a big ass plate of some type of noodles and veggies came...ate 1/3rd of it and was about to explode

[Eliyaz]

KMK it would be nice if I was to answer your question without you calling me names and insinuating Im homosexual in other threads...:noway:
If you dont like people to disagree with you I would suggest you not being in a forum community, kindda ruins the purpose...
Grow up...:abduct:

[KMK0420]

KMK it would be nice if I was to answer your question without you calling me names and insinuating Im homosexual in other threads...:noway:
If you dont like people to disagree with you I would suggest you not being in a forum community, kindda ruins the purpose...
Grow up...:abduct:

how about if you have nothing to contribute to my thread, don't contribute.

posting personal conflicts in public threads is a big no-no here. mods will remove you quickly if you dont stop..

anyway, enough of the bickering..

i'm still on the hunt for a good time to go..

RT tickets in june/july are $1300!!
RT tickets in november... $650!

big difference...may have to wait until nov 2010! cannabis cup maybe!

[Eliyaz]

how about if you have nothing to contribute to my thread, don't contribute.

posting personal conflicts in public threads is a big no-no here. mods will remove you quickly if you dont stop..

anyway, enough of the bickering..



???

[KMK0420]

???

whats there to not understand? leave me the hell alone! stop posting in my user space, and stop acting like you're a mod. if you got a problem with me, take it to a mod

[KMK0420]

anyway, here's a little piece i bought.

no idea if this "looks good" or not as i'm not into hash much..

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/63/l_12aa2103749b28379bf262037590 98f9.jpg

[DogBoy]

burn it, the better the quality the whiter the ash will be.

[Karma Genetics]

Well the gun question is realy simply, NO

we dont aloud guns here, and i would persenoly show any foregnier that brings a gun into my country, what we dutchie\s are about. and that is getting wasted, fucking, having fun.

With other words people that cary guns are not the ones we are waiting on in amsterdam. The police will see you as a big criminal much wors then the junky harasing you, and you would be the one seein als the agresor.

Come to amsterdam have fun, its nothing dangerses compared to some place's in the stastes because of the gun laws, Otherwise all those junky's would be robbing and shooting all day.

Have fun in the Dam and just smoke a couple more to relax yourself and get that agresion out before you walk the streets at night.

What works realy wel when you get harrested by them is trying to say in dutch.

Nee Ga weg. Meaning NO GO A WAY. They are just looking for the right person they can get a few euro\s from to buy there own next shot.


Keep the peace, Lots of love and karma.

[daddy fingaz]

Theres a thread on good eating in the Dam which im sure you'l find helpfull!

Theres a good few shops that often have decent hash if u look about , i personally like the rifman hashes that can be found in Dampkring and rokerij.
grey area, greenhouse, popeyes,barneys, stix also generally have nice hash can get some nice dark hashes aswell, most shops sell some sort of ice/bubble hash but it is expensive, not something id bother with as u can make ur own at home!:joint:

[Dr.NO]

George Dubya that you?

[lastemperor]

LOL BRINGING A GUN!!! Now thats plain insane, only an american can seriously ask such a question. But anyways go to Bluebird or you could try the rifman selection from dampkring/pink floyd. Personally I dont like the Rifmans too much but a lot of people do.

[clorox]

i dont know why on earth someone would bring a firearm on vacation...

but anyway, the dutch police carry some of the sickest submachine guns ive ever seen!

[lastemperor]

Also the city is much safer now than it used to be. I remember the first time I was there in 97 arrivin at the central station at 2200 alone and walking straight into RDL. Scary but those days are gone. Amsterdam is one of the safest capitals in Europe I think. And yeah if youre considering bringing a gun, then maybe a schroom trip in the park is not a good idea.

[KMK0420]

what a lot of you fail to understand is that where i come from, bringing a gun is NOT a big deal.

for you to say i'm an aggressor because i asked a question about personal protection? please. stop posting.

like some people have already said, those of you unfamiliar...simply walking out my house puts me in danger. a personal sidearm is no bullshit, i was ALMOST KILLED and robbed.

you "dutchies" and those making comments about that AGAIN fail to realize that having a gun to your head and literally have the doctor tell you and your family you probably wont make it is a big turn around when it comes to realizing how the REAL WORLD works.

the really sad part is is that about 2 pages ago i asked to stop talking about the gun idea. yet i have to keep responding to stoners who cant read WHY i asked the question in the first place.

yet dozens of you post, and post, and post, and criticize my asking about bringing a gun. how ironic is that? the idea is so repulsive to you that you must KEEP on posting over and over and over saying the same stupid shit...seriously...

only a few of you have responded about the other questions at hand (food, hash, etc.) - thank you. to those of you who keep talking about the gun, here's what i have to say:

- it's my right to carry it, i have every legal and moral right in my country to do so
- you have not faced the battle i and many others face having lived in inner-city if you believe you dont need a gun.

"if you aint walk a mile in my shoes and you aint lived a day in my life
you aint survive the shit i done survived
you aint had to deal wit the shit i had to deal wit homeboy
you cant muf**kin judge me partner"

minus the ghetto-ness, dude has a serious point. most people see people with a gun as "dangerous", "provocative", "gangster", or just general "problem causer"

what yall need to understand is that's not the case (especially in the USA)...protection is necessary. deal with some of the shit i've been through. the only option you have is to have a strap when theres a very high chance at some point living in the city you will be confronted by someone with a gun.

get real.

....if this is how the amsterdam populous responds to such a question...maybe Ibiza or California sound better.

[lastemperor]

Come on, we all read why you asked the question but its not a good reason for bringing a gun. Being hassled by some street thugs does not make it right to carry a gun in Europe.
It is sad that people feel they need to carry guns, if I where you I'd save that Amsterdam money and spend it on moving somewhere else.

[stonescafe]

What works realy wel when you get harrested by them is trying to say in dutch.

Nee Ga weg. Meaning NO GO A WAY.




:yoinks:personally id tell em ROPROTTEN or FLIKKER OP that normally works well...!!!

[KMK0420]

Come on, we all read why you asked the question but its not a good reason for bringing a gun. Being hassled by some street thugs does not make it right to carry a gun in Europe.
It is sad that people feel they need to carry guns, if I where you I'd save that Amsterdam money and spend it on moving somewhere else.

My family is here, no.

Second, you are just another who doesn't understand.

If being hassled my "street thugs" in amsterdam is no big deal, over here it is. People get killed over $20. I have a right to carry, but again it seems like the populous over there looks down on people who feel the way i do

[Eliyaz]

Again, Amsterdam is not your neighbourhood, so listen to people instead of giving us that pro-gun speech. You asked wether bringing a gun to Amsterdam was a good idea, you did not ask us wether we think your neighbourhood is dangeroues enough to carry sidearms.
And maybe you really should move to another place for that money as one user said. I have family in New York, Stony Brook Long Island, and Boston and none of them own a gun or have ever needed a gun - go figure... ;)

[masterKahn]

Umm i've been to amsterdam countless times and never needed a gun. Just lots of bud, good food, and whores in the windows. On saturday nights the police have the packed downtown on lock down. Mounted police every where there wasn't much trouble going down.

[KMK0420]

dude you have no room to talk. have a gun put to your head and be beaten and shot at like me to the point where again I was almost killed.

you have some serious issues man. first off learn some respect.. give it and you'll get it. second I wasn't just given an "answer", I was belittled and critisized for my beliefs/way of life. you really need to stop posting because all you do is bitch and whine and try to tell people what to do. take the hint and STFU.

[prepress420]

For Coffeshops, you might want to try the Grasshopper across from the train station,
or the Bulldog on the Leidseplein,
or Smokey's on the Rembrandtplein,
or Free Adam on Damstraat, just off Dam Square... just a few doors down is the Old Man Store, where you can buy a knife.
For food, try Gaucho's, or FEBO, or Panneakehokken(sp) ..."pancake house".. plus there are lots of MacDonalds and Burger Kings.
There are Spanish Bars that sell "tapas", good bar food goes nice with drinking.
The Black Tulip Hotel has a nice bar, and you might consider staying there with your friend.
Avoid Indian or Indonesian restaurants, where they have ristaffels, or rice tables. They just try and fill you up on cheap stuff.
Also, try the full English breakfast at Barneys Uptown, across from their Coffeeshop on Haarlemerstraat.
The Marriott Hotel off Leidseplein has good American breakfast, plus the Best Western Eden off Rembrandtplein. Also the Krasnaplosky on Dam Square has excellent buffet.
Don't eat anywhere that doesn't have an English menu, or you will be over-charged if they know you are American.
If you do like the meal, be sure and leave 15% tip like at home, so there is no ill feelings.

[DogBoy]

dude you have no room to talk. have a gun put to your head and be beaten and shot at like me to the point where again I was almost killed.

you have some serious issues man. first off learn some respect.. give it and you'll get it. second I wasn't just given an "answer", I was belittled and critisized for my beliefs/way of life. you really need to stop posting because all you do is bitch and whine and try to tell people what to do. take the hint and STFU.

You live in the US, a first world, highly policed continent based on the promise of democracy and a fair chance. When you live in Beirut or somewhere where violence IS real and a daily occurence people might take you seriously. As it is your coming across as a complete idiot and it would probably be advisable to stop replying to this thread.

You think your the only westerner to suffer violence, get a grip, then get over yourself, then go to Wendys and have a time out.

[KMK0420]

You live in the US, a first world, highly policed continent based on the promise of democracy and a fair chance. When you live in Beirut or somewhere where violence IS real and a daily occurence people might take you seriously. As it is your coming across as a complete idiot and it would probably be advisable to stop replying to this thread.

You think your the only westerner to suffer violence, get a grip, then get over yourself, then go to Wendys and have a time out.

And where do YOU get off telling me what i think?

No, i never said, insinuated or stated that i think i'm the only one to suffer violence. I've dealt with some crazy shit, and just because i feel i need personal protection and i ASKED A QUESTION regarding it does NOT mean that i'm self-absorbed nor the only one who's suffered.

Then again, look at your rep. 90% of the posts i see on this forum by you are ignorant/rude anyway, so you're correct - i'm done replying to both you ignorant assholes.

[Clarence]

I suffer from ignorance too. Ignorance is bliss!

Since ignorance is indeed bliss, but willful ignorance is unheard of, what is the intellectual to do?

I suggest complete acceptance of the dirty truth. When our expectations of life do not exceed its capacity, we will hopefully get the same comforts of the person in fantasy-land.

[stimuli]

Taking a gun to amsterdam is the dumbest move i've ever heard, amsterdam is not amerikkka, try thinking before asking blatantly stupid questions, only an american....

[mr.haze420]

For Coffeshops, you might want to try the Grasshopper across from the train station,
or the Bulldog on the Leidseplein,
or Smokey's on the Rembrandtplein For Coffeshops, avoid these shops, they are true tourist rip off shops. you will not be happy wasting your money at these places

[KMK0420]

I suffer from ignorance too. Ignorance is bliss!

Since ignorance is indeed bliss, but willful ignorance is unheard of, what is the intellectual to do?

I suggest complete acceptance of the dirty truth. When our expectations of life do not exceed its capacity, we will hopefully get the same comforts of the person in fantasy-land.

That last statement is vague.

[Clarence]

Your confusion about whether the last statement is vague does not apply in this case, and is explained due to my ignorance.

[MyAssIsGrass]

This thread is done, you have your answer about the firearm among other things. If you have any other questions about Amsterdam please start another thread

Thanks
Thread Closed

[Mrs.Babba]

ok KMK says hes not taking a gun now..can we all let that be now? ....dont want to have to bin this thread, just drop the gun thing ok? :D good!!

[Mrs.Babba]

heheh MAIG..we posted at the same time :D

[MyAssIsGrass]

I would have got my post in earlier but I was trying to eat my lunch & type at the same time :D