2week darkness???

[CenzieamaBhangi]

:wave: hi all. I am currently on my first grow with whitewidow from www.buydutchseeds.com (probably Nirvana's) and would like input on what yall think bout de 2 weekl dark period. Im currently on day 64 flower and completed a week in the dark, and let me tell you from what i see there tends to be huge difference. She has just exploded with crystals, my problem is im not sure whether that has something to do with the week of darkness or whether thats how the ww ripens.......any help???? Should i let her go the full 70 days considering im looking for a more heady than couchlock high?

[CenzieamaBhangi]

PLEASE

[Guest]

and would like input on what yall think bout de 2 weekl dark period -Im currently on day 64 flower and completed a week in the dark,

:wave:

48 hours darkness before harvest is the current method

U have already given it a week of no light?

[Guest]

Yeah fred, this is yet another version of the same tired old darkness before harvest theory. Two days, a week, two weeks (take your pick) and then it morphed into the 48 hours darkness before flowering, which morphed into (I kid you not, I have see it) growers wanting to put the plants in the dark for a week before flowering.

Any evidence that there is some benefit to this theory is entirely subjective and does not hold up to scrutiny.

[CenzieamaBhangi]

Yeah fred, this is yet another version of the same tired old darkness before harvest theory. Two days, a week, two weeks (take your pick) and then it morphed into the 48 hours darkness before flowering, which morphed into (I kid you not, I have see it) growers wanting to put the plants in the dark for a week before flowering.

Any evidence that there is some benefit to this theory is entirely subjective and does not hold up to scrutiny.

First off thanks Fredster and Caprichoso for you input. Fredster yes she has gone a week in the dark.

Caprichoso......I was researching on the whitewidow strain and read on a couple of websites dat suggested a 2 week dark period. If u think it doesnt make a difference please advise for i am a novice grower.....should i turn the light back on for the last week or continue with the dark period???

[Guest]

U went 57 days & turned out the lifgts for a week?

I personaly would harvest them & next time take them to full finish on 12/12 & then if U believe it helps only 48 hours dark before harvest -

To me; it makes no sence to cut the life off to a plant for a week

[clearcutter]

I personaly would harvest them & next time take them to full finish on 12/12 & then if U believe it helps only 48 hours dark before harvest -
I agree with Fredster. Don't forget alot of plants will grow a bit in the last two weeks.

Have you checked the color of the trichomes? Thats how i normaly decide when to chop them down.

[Guest]

Cenzie, I believe your supposed to keep the plants under the lights to full maturity and then move them to the dark room. Really, it's not going to hurt the plants if they're done growing, so the only thing you lose is two weeks till you can dry them

Good luck and congrats on getting them this far. Your almost there!

[Guest]

CenzieamaBhangi,, i also read about this 2 weeks in the dark ,what u should be doing is switching the lighting hours down gradually over the last 2 weeks till u hit 18 off 6 on ,then the last 2-3 days give total dark ,,i read this in an article by the greenhouse about there white widow(weed world issue 24 i think ) ,,,,

if anyone disagrees ,your actually disagreeing with the breeder of white widow and its wat was reccomended for that strain ,,,ive been using the method since i read it and it really does work,,,try it you will see

:joint: :canabis: :friends: :biglaugh:

[Guest]

Yup, I disagree, because I know a marketing technique when I see one. Gotta set your product aside from the rest, right?

[Guest]

Ive not tryed anything over 2 days but have heard too ,how they say do the WW for two weeks.But whatever u do dont put them back under light now after that long in the dark.Just finnish em that way now.As long as there healthy n not dieing you will be ok.I want to do a test, n i will(im 10 days away from harvest) im gonna put a LS plant in dark for 10 days n 1 for 48 and some 4 no days so we can compare.Ill start a thread soon.I have noticed it does give them that light lime green color after a long dark period,but im stil out on if it increases resin content.. :canabis: DWW

[Guest]

DWW, Ive seen it done time and again, year after year. The results are always the same, agree or disagree with the theory: Entirely subjective and relevent only to the room and smoker who uses it. And that includes the breeder of the strain who makes such claims.

When someone reputable puts two examples under a gas spectrometer and tells me for sure one or the other has more or less THC, CBD and CBN and by how much, I will continue to go with mother nature every time, be it "flushing" for harvest or darkness after harvest, trimming the fan leaves, or any other unproven and ill backed process. Potency is such a subjective thing, you have no idea if your even doing harm to the ratio of psychoactives in the plant.

edited for clarity

[Guest]

I am harvesting two DP-WW. One is about 7 days away and the other is maybe two or three days away. I watch the trich's and look for changes and yellowing fan leaves. A frined was over this week and said, "One of those is ready!" I have a replacement for her, but not in a hurry yet. I watch the crystals develop overnite. That is what the darkness brings about, from what I understand from other threads I have been reading.

Anyway. I am harvesting one DP-WW this week. I don't have a closet available for 24-48 darkness this week. I take what I can get and enjoy.

I keep mine in the light on until they are ready and just let 'em rest for a day perhaps when I can.

peace and Good Luck! Enjoy the WW she is serious couchlock material.

Avid

[CenzieamaBhangi]

Fredster: I put her in the dark at about day 56 flower. I was thinking of harvesting but the top of the central bud is about 30% amber (pistels). It seems to be ripening from the bottom up.
Clearcutter: Thanks for stopping by. I cant check the trichomes cause I broke the magnifier even before using it. Any suggestions on other ways to determine harvest??

Caprichoso: Hi…. That’s my mistake for I misunderstood the fact that I have to finish the flowering phase then place her in the dark. As said earlier I placed her in the dark at day 56 where she would go the full 70 days. I guess it was a bad mistake…..lesson learnt.

Hazy: Thanks for stopping by……yeah a mentor it’s a pleasure. Lol. It seems it is still a controversial topic…….. do you think I should have started the dark period after completing the 70 days ?

Danceswithweed: I guess they will go the full 2 weeks in the dark then. Good luck with your LS and the test.

Avid lerner: Hi there. Thanks for your input. I was actually hoping for a more heady hi…..ohhh well, still happy though with my first grow.

My belief is that it helps slightly with the visual look of the bud but not the high. Trichomes seem to have become brighter and have spread to the fan leaves though im still not sure whether this occured as a result of the dark or whether its just part of the ripening phase????

[Guest]

When I smoke the widow, I seem to be stuck in that position for about 30 min. Picture holding a pipe in front of your mouth as if waiting to tke a hit only you are already to high to hit it again. So you sit there with the lighter in one hand rhe pipe in the other at the wait until someone walks in and disturbs you and you hit nit again and just sit there some more. I love to hit the Widow and just sit back and have deep thoughts.

Trichomes spread and grow in the dark. I think that is the reason for the continuous dark period.

Peace.

Avid

[CenzieamaBhangi]

When I smoke the widow, I seem to be stuck in that position for about 30 min. Picture holding a pipe in front of your mouth as if waiting to tke a hit only you are already to high to hit it again. So you sit there with the lighter in one hand rhe pipe in the other at the wait until someone walks in and disturbs you and you hit nit again and just sit there some more. I love to hit the Widow and just sit back and have deep thoughts.

Trichomes spread and grow in the dark. I think that is the reason for the continuous dark period.

Peace.

Avid

OOOOHHHHHH.....Now i cant really wait anymore......she smells soooooooo good. She has gone through a range of smells, from rotting/armpit, to coffee, to a bouquet of a flowers........then today when i opened the door she smelled like a candystore/indian spice store. :tongue: I will harvest dis weekend, dont think 2 more days or so will make a difference so chop, chop, chop. I will soon also have deep deep thoughts.

[CenzieamaBhangi]

p.s Does anyone know the rate of thc degradation after the plant has reached peak maturity?

[JLP]

The whole darkness thing originated with Shantibaba.He had some plants and the power went off and the plants(Black Widow) were left in the dark for a number of days.I think it was 2 weeks but I'm recalling from an old thread by Shanti at CW.When he found them they were covered in resin.

Who knows if it really helps the potency.The ony way to know would be to grow two clones and put one in the dark and leave one in the light.

When to harvest really becomes a matter of personal taste over time.I usually harvest when about 75 percent of the hairs are brown and the heads are starting to cloud,but some people prefer a more mature plant.

JLP

[CenzieamaBhangi]

Thanks JLP for da info, will definately post a smoke report when done. I wish i had a good camera or better photography skills so i could share some pics........oh well. I think ill switch to the 48 hour darkness "theory" next time.

Take care and Jah bless

[Rellikbuzz]

Hey Cenzie! A big HIGH to ya, brotha!! :biglaugh:

The topic of a dark period has been advocated by more than one of the major breeders of the world. Both DJ Short and Professor Ziggy of the Federation Seed Co. speak of the dark period right before harvest as being beneficial to trichome production. BOG has always stated that a 48 hour period works for him. Tech Mike at Advanced Nutrients says that 72-96 hours works better for some strains. Haven't heard of a full two weeks though. Especially when you consider that many strains put on the bulk of their weight and girth in the last two weeks, it would seem detremental to go that long. Also, I would think that the dark period should be after, or at least right at the end of, the recommended flower time. Not during.

I have read in books and threads that it's best to either harvest in the dark or just as the sun/lights come on as light degrades THC. Peak THC levels occur in plants at the end of their dark cycles. Just a little more info that seemed appopriate. Tah tah!! :friends:

[Guest]

I checked my girls today. They are finally starting to change colors from the bottom up of course. My two Widows are a week apart. My space would be overgrown with both of them at their peak, at the same time.

I took a lower bracnch off yesterday, and will let it dry wth a Serious Seeds SuperSkunk I just harvested. I like to mix 'em up in the bowl.

I have a bunch of Blueberry's maturing about three weeks behind the Widows. They will make a nice addition to the Widow taste and high. Why cross-breed when I can just put 'em together in the bowl. big grin

Enjoy your harvest. Be patient and it will pay off.

Avid

[Guest]

OMG Avid that description of smokin...I love it!! I think I got contact high from readin that post :yummy: :wave: I know quite a few peeps doin the WW, and they all do the light cut back trick to them, starting 1 week into it. Peace

[CenzieamaBhangi]

Sorry its been a while…been busy harvesting……yeah!!!

Hey rellikbuzz thanks for da info…..as usual dis site delivers. I harvested in the dark with a flashlight so as to trim the buds………OHHHH she looks good.

Hi AvidLerner, thanks for your description, it sure has me salivating and shit……cant wait to taste mine.

Hey malia, yep that description sure got me longing for a smoke.

GOT A PROBLEM…….somehow she has been drying for a day and a half, and the smell has totally disappeared. She doesn’t smell the same, smells like grass or something. Have I fcked her up? Does the sweet ole dank smell ever come back? PLEASE HELP???? :confused:

[CenzieamaBhangi]

p.s pics cummin soon

[Guest]

The smell comes back stronger!

I am being patient with mine. They are like little trees. I cut off a lower branch and it was the thickness of my little finger. The main bud is about 2" across. Drying in my little humidor over the veg cbinet. Nice and warm. Can't wait. uuuummmm

You are going to enjoy the buzz!

Congrats!

Avid

[CenzieamaBhangi]

AvidLerner: Thanks for stopping by :wave: Seems more and more people are harvesting or at least close to .....grow on guyz. I to snipped some bud about a week before harvest and let it dry for a week. When i smoked some in a bowl........NOTHING HAPPENED....NO HIGH NUTHIN :confused: Should i have dried it longer :frown: HHHHHEEEEELLLLPPPPP :chin: Nways got some eye candy for yall ....sorry bout the lack of quality.....still learning alot of tings :canabis:

just some of da budz from da main cola





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One close up (blurry.....apologies)






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[Guest]

CB,
Them are some small bubs. My lower buds measure about 1-1/2" across and maybe threee inches long, and dense and thick. My main cola is about the size around of a fist and maybe 10" or 12" long. I thin k when you harvested early, the thc has not fully developed. The crystals are what is needed for the high, I think. Let them cure longer and it gets better. I cure mine in a dark dry place in a jar. not in air. The aroma is captured better, I think. There is a thread on curing. Good read!

Malia. LOL.

I am drying a bud now and it is frosty and glistens in the light when moved. I can smell it sweet and slightly dank. I also have a bunch of Blueberry maturing at the same time. it is hard to differentiate the two aromas sometimes.

Good Luck!

Avid

[CenzieamaBhangi]

Hey Avid i also think i harvested early but seeing how i grew her.....no figure she has a lowish yield. I grew her using a 250watt hps, No fan, no bloodmeal or bonemeal, no co2, bloom ferts used once and grow ferts used twice throughout the grow. 3 weeks or so before harvest she looked like dis
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so the pics above are the main cola cut up with the biggest bud measuring 1-2 inches wide and 3 inches long .....not that bad considering. Nways is it normal to
smoke bud dried for only a week with no cure and not get high????PLEASE GUYZ let me know im dying ta know????

[Guest]

Looks real nice. Is it frosty. I can see trichs easily without any magnafication. I am just waiting for her and her sister to get some more red in her before I bring them down. I have a Blueberry and OrangeBud waiting patiently for their turn.

That is nice gowth with minimal feeding. I use aeroponics and get fast and furious growth. I used to grow in dirt. Too Slow for me. Almost Painful. I can see an inch a day easily. I use GH 3-part, Tiger BigBloom, BudSwell Batt Quano, Diamond Nectar, and Doc's Carbon.

I set up a nice little 2x2 E&F table for the missus and her spring garden. Eveyone comes by and sees it and asks me how much and will I build them one? LOL

Avid