Autoflower social group....

[S_a_H]

All breeders, pollen chuckers and growers alike wanted.

Since Autoflowers cannot get a subsection on Icmag devoted to AF's even though it is one of the fastest growing areas of growing there is. I started a non specific breeder social group to discuss everything AF.

More people equal more info and more info means better strains which means more growers.

So bring your closet grows your computer case grows with your pictures,ideas and knowledge and lets begin showing the nay-sayers AF's can do it.

S_a_H


http://www.icmag.com/ic/group.php?groupid=29

[joluvs2gro]

I am very interested in auto flowering strains like lowryder etc. I am also interested in joining your group but I am so new here. I don't know why everybody doesn't wanna grow autoflowering stains though. I mean 6 months versus 60 days, it's a pretty clear choice to me. My state just legalized medical marijuana and I am definitely wanting to get involved however I can.

[perakko]

great idea, would be cool to get a thread like the ultimate sativa thread but about autoflowers.

i live in the northern scandinavia so autoflowers are pretty known here and many start their first grows with lowryder. i consider the original lowryder a very great tool in breeding strains for northern latitudes. i wouldn't necessarily grow autos inside but outside the well bread af's have great potential.

okay i'll rest my case for now, hoping more people will chime in to this tread and make a great base for af knowledge.

here's few pics

this ones pehkuruder af, a finnish old school sativadom crossed to a (ruderalis indica x lowryder) i chose this mom from f2 generation which had a lot of phenotype variation. dusted this with two of the fastest males for completing an full autoflower line. yielded few hundred seeds... my original plan was to put this outside but it was so fast it flowered during pregrow inside.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/24226DSC06952-med.JPG
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/24226DSC06950-med.JPG

i know the yield looks low but she had limited rootspace and was grown under just a few cfl's. i believe these have potential outside. im gonna be selecting for size and branching structure next summer...

here is polyhybrid consisting both lowrydes, stuporsonic and early pearl i guess... all these local lines are basicly polyhybrids but i hope to be able to select for more individual traits in the future summers, creating something unique... this was dusted with a large pehkuruder male which was more of an early strain than autoflower. i still believe the offspring will put out decent percent of full autoing plants.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/24226syksykuvia_008-med.jpg
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/24226IMG_9037-med.jpg

okay, let's hear about your projects everyone!

[Mr.Jones]

i tried the sensi ruderalis indica (ruderalisxortega) and it actually
grew into a nice plant but it didnt autoflower and the herb was really
weak ...
if theres someone interessted in pics i can post them!

still wanna try lowrider sometimes ... sounds like fun

[perakko]

i dont think sensis ruderalis indica has many if any autoflowering plants.. i guess some of the males might auto?

im thinking about getting some mossys jem for next summer to put outside also, cheaper than joint doctors lowryders and it's pretty well documented here in icmag. looks like awesome breeding work. anybody interested trying autos, check that out!

[junior_grower]

I have been searching for pure rudi for a year now. I have tried many different auto flowers, but have only found 1 or 2 that produce decent crops. The fact that I just Bought RUDI indica and now I'm being told it wont auto flower pisses me off. I wish to join and there should be a full section on this.

[Mr.Jones]

yeah i just grew out 2 plants out indoor so i cant tell if they dont autoflower
at all but my two plants were about a one and a half foot tall and they didnt
flower so i put them on 12/12 and they both started to flower ...

did anyone try the grass-o-matic auto ak47?

read a pretty good report about it and it is supposed to be working
... but i would like to hear it from some other source

[Stone Locust]

if theres someone interessted in pics i can post them!

I'm interested, I had sensi's outdoor mix in 2006 and your pictures might give me a clue if one of them was ruderalis indica.

[kaotic]

The "tall" one in the pic is my auto. It is Masterlow x Kentucky indica F1.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/54438vegspot.jpg
Here are some more. This is at 6 weeks from showing sex.
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/54438ki_x_m_l_auto.jpg
http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/54438k_i_x_m_l_auto2.jpg

The father of this cross was the micro pheno as you can see. The seedlings you see in the background are f2's of this cross. I'm working on stabilizing the micro trait. I have one male out of them that is dropping pollen at 2.5 inches tall. The female you see is seeded by the new zealand purple indica pheno of Mandala#1. I'm going to cross those seeds with the pollen from my new found micro male then inbreed from there. As soon as this site starts working again I will be able to upload pics of the rest. Right now I can only show whats in my old gallery. My goal is to get a strain going that I can toss in all the wooded areas and parks and see if I can get it to take over naturally.

[Nik Dynosaur]

i have an autoflowering highland oaxacan sativa. I don't know if that counts though. I'll post a picture in a second






EDIT::

i'm SO sorry about the size of the picture, oh man. i feel like i ruined the thread. haha bare with me because this is the first picture i've posted...

[Nik Dynosaur]

here's the pic:


http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=753&pictureid=5842

[canned abyss1]

bump :joint::joint:

[canned abyss1]

:joint:

[Justa6655321]

i just got my LW/Diesel seeds - i'm going to start them tomorrow!

[happyherb]

i joined the group...cant say ive really grown autos....well i did have 2 lots of lowryder from OG days where i only got one of the two batches to germ and got a male and a fem and the male just died on me...the fem i pollenated with sour d pollen...but didnt get the chance to harvest the seeds...

should have some auto ak47 on the way which im exited about :D....autos have really grown on me for two reasons....they have gotten stronger with all the effort ppl have put into them...and the amount of crops that can be grown each year compared to normal strains....when i get things happening i'll let ya all know.HH. =]-~

[junior_grower]

some beautiful plants out there.

[Guest]

who the hell needs auto flowering stuff. ohh you northern folks

[junior_grower]

yup the grow rooms only hold sooooo much sometimes you need to be able to take it outside.

[happyherb]

who the hell needs auto flowering stuff. ohh you northern folks

and the ppl that want to get a few crops in before there main one is even ready.....not so silly hey?.HH. =]-~

[levant]

I just love the title of this thread lol

Here's some 3rd gen Afghan which is like 2 weeks old and growing some balls.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=642449&ppuser=15925

[S_a_H]

We just got our 69th member...... but we need to get some of the other breeders out there to join up and spread the word.

It seems the other breeders want to keep the isolationism going but we need to join the separate clans and make autoflowers more powerful so we can take over the growing world. :dueling:

S_a_H

[joluvs2gro]

We just got our 69th member...... but we need to get some of the other breeders out there to join up and spread the word.

It seems the other breeders want to keep the isolationism going but we need to join the separate clans and make autoflowers more powerful so we can take over the growing world. :dueling:

S_a_H

I am wanting to grow some auto strains really really bad but don't have the funds to buy the beans. Is the isolationism why I haven't been able to get ahold of any? I wanna make some crosses with ak-47 and swazi or durban poison that I got in a trade at another site and I just can't seem to get the ak-47 or lowryder or even just a plain old ruderalis at this point.:1help: My state just got medical marijuana and I am already a grower but now I need some shorter stuff to grow inside.

[S_a_H]

I am wanting to grow some auto strains really really bad but don't have the funds to buy the beans. Is the isolationism why I haven't been able to get ahold of any? I wanna make some crosses with ak-47 and swazi or durban poison that I got in a trade at another site and I just can't seem to get the ak-47 or lowryder or even just a plain old ruderalis at this point.:1help: My state just got medical marijuana and I am already a grower but now I need some shorter stuff to grow inside.


I don't think so it is just a lot of people are breeding and messing around with AF just not many releasing anything for sale.

Seed Boutique has Blue Streak in stock now I just looked.

S_a_H

[Tropic]

Hi, just joined the AF social group, it's great to have a place to discuss and share knowledge and info on autoflowers! Hope this goes a long way! I've been interested in AFs since the OG days but only started growing them last year, I think they are great for a quick crop or for those that need/wish to remain stealthy while growing.

Keep it safe everyone, peace! :joint:

[Nik Dynosaur]

Did i join this group when i postted my oaxacan lolita? or do i have to do something else

[fumsigkfanride]

hey tought i's post my last low#2 grow..
medium-soil
7liter pots
100%organic nutez(biomagno italian brand)
400w agro lamp
closet
100cm x50cm x170cm
enjoy!
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq293/mr_d_01/SDC10617.jpg
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq293/mr_d_01/SDC10620.jpg
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq293/mr_d_01/SDC10628.jpg
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq293/mr_d_01/SDC10630.jpg
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq293/mr_d_01/SDC10636.jpg

[joluvs2gro]

Yeah, I know there are some sites with them for sale but I don't have the funds right now. I might have some coming from a guy at this other site I hang out at sometimes. I am so anxious to try my hand at these autos it's killin me. Hopefully I will have some pics to contribute sometime soon.

[ultrastealthgro]

Well, I don't know nearly as much as you guys do but I just started my first indoor/micro grow of Big Buddah White Dwarf fems, Lowryder AK fems and Lowryder Hindu Kush, trying for seeds mainly for upcoming season. I could post some pics later if anyone wants to see/maybe critique my setup let me know. I THINK AN AF GROUP IS AN AWESOME IDEA AND SHOULD HAVE IT"S OWN PLACE ON THIS SITE!

[gaviao]

Anyone know anything about the Tundra or Taiga autoflowers from Dutch Passion?

[canned abyss1]

Well, I don't know nearly as much as you guys do but I just started my first indoor/micro grow of Big Buddah White Dwarf fems, Lowryder AK fems and Lowryder Hindu Kush, trying for seeds mainly for upcoming season. I could post some pics later if anyone wants to see/maybe critique my setup let me know. I THINK AN AF GROUP IS AN AWESOME IDEA AND SHOULD HAVE IT"S OWN PLACE ON THIS SITE!

It does just click on this link to join http://www.icmag.com/ic/group.php?groupid=29

[Briar Patch]

This sounds like a good idea. I'll be tuned in. I'm just finnishing my first round of LL AK47's, just doing doing some experimenting and seeding,getting ready for the real run.

[wwonka]

Nice to see you made it over here from hg-420, s&h

Peace
wwonka

[mistaman]

heres an AK47 auto pheno someone posted on another forum

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1548&pictureid=14492&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1548&pictureid=14492')
http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1548&pictureid=14491&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1548&pictureid=14491')

[fishrealhigh]

Hi all. Been lurking for a while. reading reading reading. I just recieved my first batch of auto-flower seeds. I live in the NE US and have been thinking about the possiblites of the auto-flower outdoors. i purchased these seeds with the intent of making more seeds for some auto "mini" runs this season. I just built a silver collidier and made some silver solution. hopefully will be making some feminized auto flower seeds if not I plan on making some regular auto-flower seeds form this run. Glad to recieve all the info you guys post. Oh yeah, Just sprayed some female clones with the silver solution we will see if i can produce some pollen from females.

[love?]

Sounds good fishrealhigh. I'm doing an autoflower seed run for the summer too, if my old Lowryder (fn+1) seeds happen to germ that is..

Anyway, great idea with the thread.

[zappa66]

I have grown lowryder#2(only got one male) and the Lowlife mix packs (had better luck inside) outside last summer without much luck. However I'm going to try once more. Sprouting some Lowlife f1s as we speak to make some seeds for a mid season treat. Some one is gifting me a bunch of auto ak later on, Going to try some in 1gal. 2gal. and a few in the ground.

the slugs got me bad last year, suckers are going down.

[love?]

zappa66: Kill 'em with beer! The slugs that is ;)

[canned abyss1]

Join the Autoflower Social Group :joint:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/group.php?groupid=29

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/66382100_4888.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/ic/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=761165)

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/66382HPIM2005.JPG (http://www.icmag.com/ic/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=762573)

[S_a_H]

What day from seed are those at ?

S_a_H

[funkervogt]

Just ordered 5 Lowryder #2 beans. Interested to see how it performs in a Homebox S.

[canned abyss1]

What day from seed are those at ?

S_a_H

I'm not positive but I think somewhere between 65 and 70 days

[Killer666]

Greet from Russia!
My english very bad.Because of this can while that to understand only by means of programs.
In the same way concern with the breeding work on autoflowering sort and hybrid.Want you to show my modest developments:

1. Low Durban

genetics: Durban Poison * Lowryder

photo of the buyer :

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1820&pictureid=18411

2. Sage'n'Sour AF

genetics: Sage'n'Sour * Lowryder.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1820&pictureid=18413


Excuse me if has broken what or rules. In a complicated way while that be here orientated

[love?]

Hi Killer666, both look real nice.

How long do they take to finish?

[SovietFinland]

Greet from Russia!

Good looking plants! :kewlpics:
Low Durban and Sage'n'Sour AF, are these already 100% autoflower or work-in-progress?

SF

[perakko]

killer, those looks great! can you tell us a bit how you worked with those? did you use lowryder males all the time or what? how many generations did it take for those crosses to reach full autoflowering?

very cool crosses, and no you haven't broken any rules. greetings from your western neighbours!

[hunt4genetics]

This is an awesomwe thread, great info, great pics.

You guys remind me of that splinter group from OverGrow that was into fluro growing.
What were those guys called again? I can't wait to get some AF genes.

peace

[the Shrubber]

I have been growing for years, and around the stuff for longer than I can remember. 4th Generation farmer actually and very proud of it (thanks pop). I was never even aware of AF strains until recently when my last two seasons of "Garlic Skunk" started to AF without any warning at all! Sneaky buggers. But now that I did the S.M.R.T. thing and brought out the trait through breeding, I have found on the web that not only are more people doing it, but they are doing it very well. So I just picked up some beans to try (MDanzig's BlueRyder, JointDoc's DieselRyder, and some Skunk Info Skunk Haze) and I'm so amped about seeing how far we can take this.
PS: Lol @ the rippers in their chopper flying over my patch this week totally unaware of the sexiness right beneath them hiding in the grass.

[HookaHittaH]

Whats up Guys? Just found this thread. Nice to see a group dedicated to Autos. I have some of Mossy's Jems that I'm waiting to germ. Maybe another month and it will be warm enough to get them goin outdoors. I had a small run of autos in the fall but I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do in better growing conditions. GL guys.

[kylepaulripped]

hey guys, im very new to this site and growing in general but have restricted space to grow, so whats a good site to get some good low ryder mixes from? thanks

[S_a_H]

Come one come all......

The group is growing quickly and we are somewhere around 120 members now so you better get in on the ground floor.

Like I said before all breeders and all AF. Discuss your works in progress or show off that work.

Hope to see you there.

S_a_H

[Killer666]

love?

at the average 60-70 days. In open soil little long

SovietFinland

This already completely autoflowering plants.In development are presently found to achieve autoflowering hybrid : Mako Haze and Cheese

perakko

Yes,male plants lowryder were used moreover all time one and same pollen(one men).
The Principle of the reception such either as beside Blue Ryder from Mdanzig.

All thank you!And little else photo

Low Durban :
http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1820&pictureid=18943
http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1820&pictureid=18946

Sage'n'Sour Af

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1820&pictureid=18947

to the left Low durban , to the right Sage'n'Sour AF
http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1820&pictureid=18948

[teddybud]

great work guys I love it!

[love?]

Finally I have enough posts to join the group, if you'll have me that is. :)

Not having much luck with my old lr seeds though. So far only one (out of ten) has germinated.

Should have stored them better I suppose. Oh well, lesson learned.

[g0dzilla]

for some reason I cannot reply in the social group threads.. what has changed?

[canned abyss1]

Bump :rasta:

[g0dzilla]

cant post in the social group because of post count: but i have a question has anyone tried using light to stress an autoflower to try to make some fem seeds???

[canned abyss1]

Come one come all......

The group is growing quickly and we are somewhere around 120 members now so you better get in on the ground floor.

Like I said before all breeders and all AF. Discuss your works in progress or show off that work.

Hope to see you there.

S_a_H

bump :yeahthats

[flexo]

well its getting warm here in my NY area and some trees are starting to bud and when i see that I get the itch to grow..... honestley i've had the itch all winter.

For 09's outdoor I will be doing my TW x LR cross again and I might throw in some of the early LR x WW cross I made a few years back just for some variety.

Here are some pics of last years TW x LR grow........

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27831&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27831')

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27835&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27835')

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27838&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27838')

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27840&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27840')

[flexo]

I forgot to add the post above is of the AF plant and the one pictured below is the non-AF.

I tied her down for more lateral growth and as you can tell i got a few good tops but it was prone to bud rot this year because of NY humidity, I lost half the plant & some huge tops to that stinking rot.

This particular pheno has alot more trich coverage than the AF'ing plant and it resembled the original TW mom more, it leaned towards the sativa side. The trim made some great ISO, full melt in fact and tasty as hell. The smell was of candied lemon with a slight spicy undertone, very great clear high, I hope to get more of that pheno this year.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27852&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27852')

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27847&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27847')

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27851&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27851')

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27853&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=2409&pictureid=27853')

[Botanist]

Hey guys!
Im in the middle of my 1st auto flower grow with LR2. I was told that you would see sex at about 17 days. Im on day 18 and don't want to weight any more.LOL Im going for seeds this time any way. Any one out their want to give me a heads up on this strain?

O ya if i can grow the balls to post some picx i will show off my garden but till then im hopping some one could tell me what to expect.

[g0dzilla]

I have never grown lr2 for seeds but i have done an auto and i can tell ya unless you have perfect conditions it may be a couple of more days to show sex.. as far what to expect i usually remove the males to a designated area.. let the fems throw out a bunch of pistils so may remove for 3 weeks.. then I bring the female that I want to polliante to the male stable for a night and let him have his way... when the female is pollinated the pistils will start to die.. from there I usually give her a good spray with some water(it kills lingering pollen) and bring her back in with the ladies.. atleast 4 weeks for beans to fully develope...

[Thunders77]

Great Work you guys are doing with the crosses and advancing things for us outdoor growers in the Northeast. The only question I had was about potency, but with the SageNSour and Diesel crosses that should be answered.
I really Love the look of that SageNSour!!!

[ChaosCatalunya]

High S_a_H & Co

Thanks to our host for getting this together, a great move.

I grew Lowryder2 outdoors and was not bowled over, but DieselRyder was clearly a decent smoke, so I decided to have a real look at AF's this year.

Just back from Spannabis, I met some really interesting people, and got some more stock to add to my DieselRyder and White Dwarf .... anybody heard of Autofem [.com] strains ?

I got all 5 strains to try out, the breeder was on hand to answer my silly questions and this guy really knows his stuff, unlike some of the others with ****Ryder**** strains I was offered that had blatantly been quickly tacked on to the list of other ripped/femmed genetics....

[std]
Bluekush [LRxHinduKush, fruity]

Uzbek [LRxUzbek, Seditive/Relaxing]


[fem]
Soviet [LRxAK7xUzbek, Sedative/Narcotic]

Oil [LRxCHemDog/Kush, Energising/Narcotic]

Bud [LRxBigBud/Indostan, Active/Cerebral]


Ambitous [?] plan A is to grow them all out, keep males seperate & store the pollen, then test all possible crosses and F2's ..... If all goes well & I have the time and space, I would love to bring some new strain into the AF genepool like Killer666 seems to have been doing....

[g0dzilla]

wow nice pickups... im curious of the chem cross.. you should keep a journal.. id love to see how they all finish up..

[Kodiak]

Good thread and nice plants everyone :yes:

Lowryders and other autoflowering strains do not get the credit that they deserve, I consider them a great addition to the cannabis strain multitude. People overlook them because they think that they are not very potent but the lowryder hybrids of today are getting quite sophisticated.

Lowryder is also an intersting mix:


[(NL #2 x Mexican Rudy male) x SSSC Williams Wonder female]


NL #2 = 80% Afghani Indica 20% Highland Thai (Known today as Oasis)

Mexican Rudy = Russian Ruderalis x Mexican Sativa (A mild, short and fast flowering plant)

Super Sativa Seed Club Williams Wonder = A potent early Afghani Indica with some Russian Ruderalis and Nepalese Sativa influence. I'm not sure but I believe that this plant is no longer available in seed form. REZ offers an inbred line but if I remember correctly it has some NYCD in it.


I have grown lowryders both indoors and outdoors and I have always been happy with the results.

I recently made some Diesel Ryder F1's and also crossed the same Diesel Ryder male to a Lowryder #2 female, a cross that I call Quick Diesel.

I started out with a decently sized population and the Lowryder #2 female that I selected for the Quick Diesel cross was very sticky and had a very strong smell of fresh citrus fruit. The Diesel Ryder father was also a strong plant which had a nice petrol scent and dense clusters of male flowers (this apparently affects how dense the female flowers will be in the offspring), so I am confident that I'm looking at some good seeds here.

I stress tested the parents by periodically subjecting them to low temps, strong fertz, high humidity in flowering and mold. They handled everything I threw at them and proved to be very resistant, so I know that they will do fine outdoors. Stress testing the plants will also weed out potential hermafrodites.

I started another seed project today where I intend to cross the Blue Ryder/Blue Streak to the QD. I look forward to growing all these hybrids outdoors this year.

Keep up the good work

[Jones]

Hey guys!
Im in the middle of my 1st auto flower grow with LR2. I was told that you would see sex at about 17 days. Im on day 18 and don't want to weight any more.LOL Im going for seeds this time any way. Any one out their want to give me a heads up on this strain?
...

Mine showed sex 3 weeks after breaking the soil, ~24 days after planting the seeds. No worries, yours will get there in a couple of days.

[Puffster]

I can also see that Dutch Passion seeds has released some new auto lines, anyone heard anything about them or gotten the chance to check them out?

Taiga
Tundra

thats their names, can be found on the top of drchronics page under "auto seeds"....looks quite nice, dont fully trust DP though :\

Descriptions:

Tundra -

Autoflowering Tundra is an hybrid between an autoflowering Ruderalis/Indica and our outdoor champion Passion #1. We chose Passion #1 for it’s outstanding “outdoor” qualities: healty (pestresistant), strong and early flowering, soft smoke and superb taste. Spicy, lemon and grapefruit.Small bushy plants. Mild Up-High. THC: flowering period: 8 – 11 weeks harvest time outdoor: depending on sowing time. yield: Outdoor 25 to 30 grams per plant

Taiga-

Autoflowering Taiga is an hybrid between an auto-flowering Ruderalis/Indica and Power Plant. From our famous Power Plant gene pool we selected an extreme early flowering female Power Plant. This female we used to produce the female pollen. These pollen we used to fertilze the female Ruderalis/Indica. Taiga grows with big compact buds. The smell and taste are evident Power Plant. Taiga is a very good yielder for such a small plant. Taiga does not ask for a special fertilizing regime, which means that it’s easy to grow. Containers of 1.5 to 2 liters are sufficient to garantee a good harvest. Taiga loves a place in the sun, which she needs for a quality yield. Taiga has a short lifecycle, from seed to bud 8 to 10 weeks. Height of plants: 50-60 cm THC: flowering period: 8 - 10 weeks harvest time outdoor: depending on sowing time. yield: 25 to 30 grams per plant

so is this just some Lowryder spinoff or have they created their own thing here?

[g0dzilla]

i saw those.. many people are putting out autos.. show be a great year for the auto lovers

[Puffster]

yeah the whole autoflower thing is bigger than the kush craze nowadays, and it is sweet as well because now there are starting to appear some good decent mid to big sized commercial outdoor grows in areas where this was totally unthinkable just 5-7 years ago, giving more people that mostly get shitty hash access to pot every now and then...plus it gives the po po a bit more headaches since the weed doesnt only come imported anymore and they have no clue about outdoor cannabis since its totally new up here...mohaha sweet times.

[ghettoboy]

Well spring is comming and I am getting ready for my first autoflower outside grow (lowryder#2) and am hopeing or the best. I also plan on doing alot of breeding with it in hopes of comming up with my own versions of autoflowering strains such as ........ ecsd, bubba kush, sfv og kush, and a few other elite cuts to start with to see if i can get the autoflower trait to pass on. Lets hope eehhhh !!!! Anyway I will start posting picks as soon as I get things going.

[S_a_H]

Post your support for a Autoflower Grow section here and maybe we can get one.

S_a_H

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2175445#post2 175445

[S_a_H]

High S_a_H & Co

Thanks to our host for getting this together, a great move.

..

Welcome to the show and goodluck with your grow.

S_a_H

[FirstTracks]

just received my Lowlife Auto AK47 and Mdanzig's Blue Streak (been waiting forever to grab that one....)

I plan to make seeds (possibly all fem) with all these AFs.

Anyone have any words of advice regarding the pollination process? I've grown original Lowryder and just did open pollination with the male's putting out their pollen a couple weeks into flower.
Is there an optimal time to pollinate?

Has anyone here used collodial silver to make fem autoflower seeds? I'm not sure when I neeD to start spraying it for it to be effective. Also, I'm still confused on this....If I spray with CS from week 2-3 on, how do I tell which plants are the true males and which ones started as females and then reversed? Will it be apparent? or is it tricky to tell?

Thanks! :wave:

[Kodiak]

Hi, FirstTracks. You can pollinate the females whenever they are sexually mature, in other words when they show preflowers. Since the male keeps making pollen continuously the pollination process is an ongoing one. You can keep the male around for some weeks until you think that the females are sufficiently pollinated.

I have not tried collodial silver but you can also get the female plants to change sex by spraying the flowers with a plant hormone called gibberellic acid, found in kelp and sea weed extract. Just keep spraying the flowers with this hormone and the plants that are proned to hermafroditism will eventually reverse sex. You run a risk at getting mold though so spray often but not a lot. On the other hand, finding out which plants are susceptible to mold is not a bad idea if you are making outdoor seeds.

Another easy way to find the potential hermafroditic plants is to stress them out with light leaks, high temps and so on. If you use colloidal silver you are actually poisoning your plants and they will get sick in the process, so you might want to try one of the more natural means of bringing out the hermafroditic trait.

You will know which plants are male and which plants are hermafroditic females because the true males will produce the distinctively familiar clusters of balls while the females prodouce modified male flowers that look like bananas, sticking out of the bud, like in this picture. They are however very small and not that easy to spot, you'll need at least 10x magnification. If your bud starts looking wierd, take a closer look as it might be nanners.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/65379Oh_No_Bananas.jpg

Since hermafrodism is a dominant trait in cannabis the offspring will also carry the gene for this trait, which means that they might also revert sex under stress or even in optimal conditions. Not necessarily something that you want. You'll might end up with a whole bunch of feminized seeds but no sensimilla since the hermafrodties will go unnoticed and pollinate crop after crop. It is better to breed with normal stable genetics in my opinion.

I hope that helped to shed some light on your questions :smoke:

[FirstTracks]

Thanks Kodiak!:wave:
pretty thorough response there.

As far as exactly when to pollinate, should I wait until the females develop a lot of calyxs around 4 weeks or should I just start from the beginning for maximum seed production?

Does anyone here have much actual experience with bluestreak or Auto AK (by LL) outdoors (or indoors for that matter)? I''m specifically concerned with watering needs, mold suseptibility, size, yield, and time from seed to harvest.

thanks again

[Kodiak]

Sure, glad I could help :smoke:

I would say that you can either wait until the plants are in full bloom or you can pollinate straight away. The benefit from waiting would be that you can get the entire plant pollinated in one go and all the seeds will therefore also mature at the same rate, and be ready some six weeks later.

On the other hand, if you pollinate them over a longer period of time you will get more seeds as more flowers will form and more pollen will be shed but you will have seeds maturing at different rates which means that you will probably have to wait a bit longer before harvesting. I guess it's a matter of preference.

One thing that you might want to take into consideration is that a younger and lightly pollinated female will most likely produce fewer but larger seeds while an older and heavily pollinated female will produce a whole bunch of smaller seeds. Seed size is also genetically determined to some degree but basically it's a matter of energy investment; more pollinated calyxes equals more seeds, less pollinated calyxes equals larger seeds of higher quality.

That's about all the advice I can give as in the end it all boils down to what you think is best.

Good luck with your grow

[Finegreg23]

FirstTracks where you obtain your seeds from?

[FirstTracks]

Kodiak:..........what can I say.
Again your answer was awesome. Thanks for the help once again.

Finegreg23:PM me when you have enough posts. out of respect for Gypsy and all the people who work hard to keep this site alive, I won't post a name or link. If you know how to use the Google though, you might be in luck.

[ChaosX]

Hi everyone,
What will I get when I cross 100% AF Strain F2 x 100% AF Strain F2. Will I get 100% AF F3? Thanks.

[flexo]

ChaosX, if my memory serves correct then YES the F3's will be 100% AF.

[ChaosX]

Thanks flexo,
Ok, the next question is:
Is F3 made this way is less potent than F1 from original breeder? :)

Thanks

[SovietFinland]

There's no easy answer on that question. F3 can have less, more or same potent than F1 from original breeder.

Good breeder choose the best male to pollunate best female. Then F2 generation can be same or better than average F1. Greedy breeder don't give a damn, he just use every plant to procude more seeds.

SF

[flexo]

I have to agree with SovietFinland, it all comes down to the plants you select for breeding.
Maybe someone with more breeding knowledge will chime in on this one.

[Kodiak]

I agree, it all depends on the parents you chose for the cross.

The larger the initial population is, the bigger the chance of finding good parents. If you start with only a few plants, you might end up breeding individuals that are poor representatives of their strain. Every seed project must be founded on good genes.

You can end up with more, less or equally potent offspring but it all depends on the P1 parents. 10 plants of each strain should be enough in order to find the right plants.

Potency is mainly inherited from the mother so in theory potency should improve with every generation through selective breeding. I consider a strict screening process necessary as making seeds is time consuming. Only the best will do.

[ChaosX]

thanks for the answers,
I'm going to sow more than 25 plants to find the parents. It will be organic seed production outdoors. It isn't a problem to make really good seeds, just simple selection, all phenotypes included and you can leave everything to mother nature. I'm talking of course about outdoor seed production.

[dontstepongrass]

hey guys! looks like i will be joining your ranks with some of these master low im gonna grow out. gonna do a seed run first!

over and out.

[ReToCs]

Can I also join?

[S_a_H]

Pretty much the key to unlocking most of Icmag is getting to 50 posts.

When I started the group it was by my ok to join but after some thought why the hell does anyone need my OK......:nanana:

But please hit the sticky thread from oldpink and give thanks for the Autoflower subforum.

So I changed it a open group so when you hit the magic 50 posts you are clear for landing.

S_a_H

[ReToCs]

ah great! then i need to give some more opinions on some of the beautifull plants here... :P

[rebo]

I'd like to join the group if it's ok with everyone..
I've grown LR2 which I [pllinated the lower flowers and have some F2 seeds now .. I am currently growing some auto AKxBB which is really ripening up nicely..

[S_a_H]

I'd like to join the group if it's ok with everyone..
I've grown LR2 which I [pllinated the lower flowers and have some F2 seeds now .. I am currently growing some auto AKxBB which is really ripening up nicely..


Like I tell the others find the hose, bucket and carwash and your in.....:dueling:

You should be good to go. I think they upped the post count limit to 75 so you shouldn't need my ok to join.

S_a_H

[Spicoli]

Ah hoy hoy, everyone. Got to love the autos, so much can be done. I myself have tried the Masterlow and loved it. I actually made my own cross of Sour Diesel(Rezdog)x Masterlow(Mdanzig) and love it. Props to both the breeders for their hard work. my cross is only 50% auto but i am working on it. Just wanted to give praise to the Autos and all the growers growing them.

[Dinix]

I can't join yet, but tell me which i should use.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=3567&pictureid=54572&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=3567&pictureid=54572')

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=3866&pictureid=55181&thumb=1 ('http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=3866&pictureid=55181')

One on top is a Blue Streak, bottom is a random purple male from Joint Doctors Mix.

[flexo]

I would say use the purps!!

the one on the bottom looks like its got a stout compact growth to it.

rub your fingers on the stems, what do they smell like?

[Lume]

The top 1 ,bluestreak. Next bns will have bluestreak in them....which works fine.......because what might be the good % of bns from an untested slightly strange male........... or better use both just to see them both types root in one day for the better male it was.

[S_a_H]

What Up S_a_H !?

Recognize the avatar ? lol I joined here BEFORE I found BBay and of course changed my name once I did. Still waiting for those beans, but will PM as soon as they come.

Peace

No I don't but that bright red text that is blinding I recall....lol

S_a_H

[Lume]

Too much red text is hard on the eyes .

[Lume]

Dinix ---- Hows the spewing going ?

[GreenMachine22]

Nice, some really good looking hay

[GreenMachine22]

? When does lr 2 start to flower

[DIRT DIGGLER]

Looking forward to joining, as soon as I get enough post's that is.

[DIRT DIGGLER]

I've already asked this question in another thread....but I'm sure one of you guys might have an answer for me.OK....here's the million dollar question....I been growing my auto's on 24 hours light,but I have an annual inspection of my apartment coming up in a week, if I where to shut my lights off for maybe 4-5 hours. will it hurt my girls, I really need an answer on this,it would be much appreciated.

[bromhexine]

it wont hurt them at all to shut off the lights for 5 hours. in fact most suggest that every night should get around 4 hours of darkness. annual inspection? that sucks what happened to privacy in this country?

[DIRT DIGGLER]

Thanks for the reply,very helpful....I agree privacy is a hard commodity to come by nowadays.

[uptosumpn]

Guess I need to get a buch of posts in so I can join too!!! BECAUSE I LOVE AUTOS!!! ABOUT TO START MY FALL GROW OF Auto AK, Lowryder2, Auto AK x Auto Blueberry and thinking about getting some Fem Buddah White Dwarfs, Bluestreak & Russian Rocket Fuel..........subscribed!!!

[Longhair]

Hello S_a_H,
Do You Have Any Feminized That Are Out Or You Might Be Working On? When The BS Arrive I'll Have A Bunch Of Questions!

To Everyone:
Is There List Or Link That Shows The Majority Of True AFs & AFs Feminized

Thank You
Longhair

[lowrdr]

Hello S_a_H,
Do You Have Any Feminized That Are Out Or You Might Be Working On? When The BS Arrive I'll Have A Bunch Of Questions!

To Everyone:
Is There List Or Link That Shows The Majority Of True AFs & AFs Feminized

Thank You
Longhair


http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=129303

[mossy]

It seems the other breeders want to keep the isolationism going but we need to join the separate clans and make autoflowers more powerful so we can take over the growing world.

100% Agree..
just hadn't noticed the thread before...
Keep up the Good Work Bro..
we are going to revolutionise the growing World.

Together we are Strong..:grouphug:

[S_a_H]

Hello S_a_H,
Do You Have Any Feminized That Are Out Or You Might Be Working On? When The BS Arrive I'll Have A Bunch Of Questions!

To Everyone:
Is There List Or Link That Shows The Majority Of True AFs & AFs Feminized

Thank You
Longhair


I had checked into the process of making some femmed seeds and another member really went into detail on making them but after thinking about it I decided against it.

But as far as questions go ahead and post them up and let everyone see them and help answer any.

S_a_H

[Longhair]

I had checked into the process of making some femmed seeds and another member really went into detail on making them but after thinking about it I decided against it.

But as far as questions go ahead and post them up and let everyone see them and help answer any.

S_a_H

Hello,
Thanks For Your Time & Knoldege. I Still Have 5 To 6 Weeks On This Run To Finish. Then It Will Be BS Time.

Thank You
Longhair

[greenpharmd]

How do you join the Autoflower Social Group? I'm real new at all this, but I would like to learn as much as I can about autoflowering strains. Thanks and God bless.

[S_a_H]

A lot of the features here on Icmag are tied to your post count. I think you need something 50 posts before things unlock.

Besides this subsection is where it is at. I started the social group before we got this area and I think from the large number of members showing interest they made this area.

S_a_H

[greenpharmd]

Thanks a million! Everyone is so helpful here. This subsection is my favorite. I'm slowly getting comfortable with the terms and concepts of growing. Of all the types of cannabis autoflowers seem the most interesting. I just wish there were some more sativa leaning types but I here they are in the works! Thanks again and God bless.

[lowrdr]

green: you hear correctly, sativas are on their way :D

[greenpharmd]

Thanks lowrdr! You folks are the best. Take care and God bless!

[arcticjake]

Autoflowering strains have changed my life. LR 1, LR 2, Mish Mash, B-47 (some F1's). For the first time it is possible to see decent finished herb outdoors way the hell up north. Thank you to breeders and seed banks for access to the genetics.

Jake

[horstwerner]

Just wanted to introduce myself.

Hi :).

I'm now growing for a year (got it, I'm one year old). For some time I gathered some info 'bout autos and going to start my first try this spring.
Looking foward to join your group.

Keep it growing

[BlackSun]

green: you hear correctly, sativas are on their way :D

i just love u all who work on the sativa project!

[Cannasmoke]

My ER seeds are currently germinating, thought id ask the question here instead of starting another thread, which, no doubt, there is alot of, but, I have 3 gallon pots (I think!) that I had laying around for a few years, I never used them, is this too big to plant the seed in straight away? or should I be potting up. Cheesey was nice enough to get back to me and said I should start them in the big pot's but I'm always looking to get an opinion seconded. thanks.

[Mr.Meds]

IMO you can definitely plant directly into that. I have planted into even larger amounts of soil with good results. Potting up works and people do that with good results too. It's really up to your time and resources. Just remember to plant them pretty shallow. :2cents:

[Cannasmoke]

IMO you can definitely plant directly into that. I have planted into even larger amounts of soil with good results. Potting up works and people do that with good results too. It's really up to your time and resources. Just remember to plant them pretty shallow. :2cents:

thank's man.

also, another question, I wanna germ 3 reg seed's, I may not get any females at all and I'm just growing them to see how they perform, but, if I end up with a female, I could veg for longer than normal and then as my autos start to mature, would it be alright to hit 12/12 for their last 2 weeks or so to accommodate the reg strain?.

surely if the plants grown as tall as it's gonna grow, it shouldn't really affect much?.

question to anyone willing to give an answer.

[Lume]

I use an 18/6 mh/400 over some AFers that fill in space well with a durban poison right now turning to 12/12 mh. The AFers wont suffer from the drop to 12/12 for a while as they move to an hps20/4 anyways when theres some spaces. As the 12/12 is on for @8wks mh ,the mh space is a nice transitional 12/12mh @2wks between sprouted under 24/0flouros and going 20/4hps...they end up finishing well.
12/12mh for 2-3wks in the AF midlife has shown to stretch them taller before basking them to a bulky finish.:peppermintstick:

[S_a_H]

Hey Hey its Lume......

We miss ya around here you gotta come around more to see us. I was just looking through my box O seeds and came across some of the 3-way cross you sent me back and was thinking about breaking them out to run.

S_a_H

[*mr.mike*]

Lume! I have yet to thank you again for everything! Glad you bothered to visit here again!

I still have your 4-way, although crossed by an auto ak, and a couple others that always surprise me as much as Gump's box of mushroom and hash chocolates!

Man, open up your encyclopedia of af knowledge upon us! We may be worthy!

[Lume]

Im finding coco coir and some wormcastings start AF sprouts well...better than soilessmix alone,2day standing tapwater...but more caretimes for drip feeding:santa1:

[Lume]

Trying some PS/LR2 X BB/LR f2. Had done them whiles back.They rooted in quikker than 5Way X 4Way and deiselryderLR3 X4Way...:smokeit:

[Cryoss]

i would love to become part of this AF Social Group but i dont see how i can join on this site. this is my 2nd time growing AF plants and this time i and going to make seeds with my auto ak47

[S_a_H]

I think you need something like 50 posts to do so. But it is really dead in there.

I had been asking for the last two years for a AF subforum and never got one because AF's were not yet important. So I made the Social Group and right after that when they saw that it had the highest member rate finally gave in and made this subforum.

S_a_H

[Lume]

S_a_H.........Did u run them bns from backwhen ?....hope some tap for u still ....they mighthave dried up by now.

[Lume]

Lume! I have yet to thank you again for everything! Glad you bothered to visit here again!

I still have your 4-way, although crossed by an auto ak, and a couple others that always surprise me as much as Gump's box of mushroom and hash chocolates!

Man, open up your encyclopedia of af knowledge upon us! We may be worthy!

The 4Ways I have still left arent tapping anymore,dried up so long .....but the 4ways X BS/ML are my favs......them 4ways have been my chosen push forward into a mixedAF for anyone I gifted some to.....would be kinda cool to see a pic of 1 of them 4wayXAK AF .

[64grandsport]

how do you get into this group?

[S_a_H]

how do you get into this group?

Get 49 more valid posts.

S_a_H

[*mr.mike*]

Here's a cross of g13xhashplantxlr with a super Masterlow. The indica/afghani qualities of each complements the other. It is truly awesome smoke, not just for auto, but for dank, in general.

Thanks, S_a_H! You do an awesome thing here!

[S_a_H]

Here's a cross of g13xhashplantxlr with a super Masterlow. The indica/afghani qualities of each complements the other. It is truly awesome smoke, not just for auto, but for dank, in general.

Thanks, S_a_H! You do an awesome thing here!


Good combo.......

I was very happy with both and plan on starting up things again here directly and the first on the block is the G13 cross. I'll be able to start 100-150 at a time now and can really wrap up work on a few strains much faster now.

S_a_H

[AutoFems Rule !]

Working my way towards 50 posts to get the full potential of this site !!

Peace

[dune]

Im adding my AF strain to the list. Its a Mango bag seed i got 2 AFs once been flowering close to 85 days now and still white pistils and mad clear trichromes. i cant wait to see the clouds to amber. not really a efficient strain in length of flowering but for my first plant to bloom im expecting a easy 2 O's and she got the wonderful titty wiggle going on. hoping its a nice smoke. ill get pics up soon.

[AutoFems Rule !]

Any New England AutoFlower Afficianados ??

I posted in the mass/conn/... thread but it was passed over like I was invisible. So, I guess this is where to find out !!

Peace