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Jamaican Strain Identification?

Elevator Man

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It's been a while since I posted in here, but just an update on that plant I put out in June - it's about two weeks from chopping now, I reckon - I'll be visiting tomorrow hopefully, but this is it last weekend:



Good to know also that the KC is finally, slowly making its way into the wider world, which is a relief, as I was getting a bit worried with only two of us in the world with this one. Elites are all well and good, but I didn't want to end up being the next 'guy who lost Asian Fantasy', if you know what I mean...:)

There's no credit can be taken here except for my good friend who was not only smart (and brave) enough to bring the seeds back from Jamaica in the first place, but to establish that it could actually be grown to completion outdoors in the UK. So good news it's being preserved, I hope plenty get to try it, and I'm on with the JLo cross, which should be just as good, if not better...;)
 
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Nice plants, but in my opinion the Jamaican strain has lost his identity since i saw on youtube that they were also growing strains which looked like Lowryder to me.:yoinks: For the Rastafarians it is just ganja, but the famous sativa strains they had in the past are disappeared for ever on the island.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dzngVmZabQ

Namaste :smoweed: :canabis:

 

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I asked my friend to take some of the JLo seeds I made back to the guy in Jamaica last time he went, and he said they don't care at all about new stuff - I even offered him some Goldfinger, which would be awesome in Jamaica (or anywhere hot), but he said it was a waste of time - they'd never grow them...:)
 

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I asked my friend to take some of the JLo seeds I made back to the guy in Jamaica last time he went, and he said they don't care at all about new stuff - I even offered him some Goldfinger, which would be awesome in Jamaica (or anywhere hot), but he said it was a waste of time - they'd never grow them...:)

Interesting that they aren't open to new genes. Other folks I know who have been to the Caribbean report that the growers were very keen to obtain new genes.

Kentish Creme is a superb plant, easily the equal in quality of an OG or Bubba Kush, and obviously fully acclimated to Jamaica, so in that sense you can see why they don't want new stuff - what they have is stunning and works great in their locale so why bother with something from elsewhere.
 

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I asked my friend to take some of the JLo seeds I made back to the guy in Jamaica last time he went, and he said they don't care at all about new stuff - I even offered him some Goldfinger, which would be awesome in Jamaica (or anywhere hot), but he said it was a waste of time - they'd never grow them...:)

Interesting that they aren't open to new genes. Other folks I know who have been to the Caribbean report that the growers were very keen to obtain new genes.

Kentish Creme is a superb plant, easily the equal in quality of an OG or Bubba Kush, and obviously fully acclimated to Jamaica, so in that sense you can see why they don't want new stuff - what they have is stunning and works great in their locale so why bother with something from elsewhere.
 

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aright elevator man! god damn that kentish creme looks like the shiznit! just been speaking to one of my yardie mates who i havent spoke to in a while and he told me my stepdads (rip) best mate is running most of the yard weed in that area,,, and he told me that you can get blueberry and super silver haze pressed up and imported from ja now so guess the genetics in ja may be a lil mixed now,,, personally i dont blame them everyone likes a bit of variety ,,,, soon as i get my self together and i have the spare cash to buy a q or something i will put some pics up ,,would have done by now its just on the other side of my city i have to get it,,,, ill have a gd word with the guy whos peddling it and report back :)
 

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What amazes me is that this one finishes so easily in the UK, but that makes me think it's more hybrid than pure. It certainly has the potency required, if not the yield, but the JLos (Kentish Creme X MoFlo) I'm watching finish off now all look to be higher-yielding than either parent, which is really good news if the potency carries through.
 

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Jamaican from stock I collected in the late eighties. My wife and I visited Nigrel and happened to score several top notch varieties to choose from. This plant has been inbreed from the best seeds we collected from that visit.
I was told this could be blue Mountain variety but now after looking at ICmag and Charlie Garcias True Blue Mountain I am not sure. regardless Lovely mild earthy berry and warm high.
These pictures taken three weeks ago.

 

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You probably don't want to hear this but I've taken seeds out from Europe every visit, lots of them, so have my Canadian friends ...... it's getting to the point I can see who grew what ..... the Texas Heather was a big hit as was the Blueberry
 

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The most intriguing plant I have flowering at the moment is this Kentish Creme S1, the KC being an exceptional Jamaican.

This plant looks exactly like it's KC mother in veg, but since going into flower has changed somewhat. It branches a bit more than the KC does but the biggest difference is the leaves - they are much thinner and have more blades, making this look like a much more sativa leaning plant, but there is plenty of time left for her to develop and she might look more like her mother by the time she's done. Early resin production is promising as she is only just starting to produce flowers. The stems, petioles and leaf veins are purple throughout and the foliage a very dark green, unusual plant, reminds me a lot of some of the DJ short plants I've seen but more sativa.

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Elevator Man

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Very interesting - it's kept the forward-facing leaflets from the KC, but they are decidedly more sativa - maybe the theory of an acclimatised Ja sativa getting plonked by a Blueberry or Deep Chunk-leaning indica might actually be a possibility after all...it's always had a DJ Short style to it...:chin:
 

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Yeah, it is more sativa, so it suggests that it is a Jamaican sativa that had been hybridised by something indica. Wouldn't it be hugely ironic if KC happened to be a Jamaican x DJ hybrid?

I used to think the KC was an indica acclimated to Jamaica, but this sativa leaning one has me thinking it must have some sativa in it.

I was reading that in the early 80s, after independence, they started growing lots of 'collie' weed which was genes imported from the commerical scene so much in the way of indica genes was introduced and the famous sativas they were famed for couldn't be preserved as there was so much pollen floating around the island from the collie grows that all the sativaswere eventually hybridised.

But maybe we can unpick a bit of that pollution and uncover some of the underlying sativa genes?

All Jamaican genes were originally from South India and I happen to have some seeds from Andrah Pradesh and Kerala so perhaps I should try germing them. A friend is in India right now and has promised to try to bring seeds home, he's in Goa, so he might turn up with some South Indian sativa seeds in a few weeks. I think crossing a South Indian sat male to this sat pheno KC could be rather interesting.

Have to wait and see if this pheno is any good first though, might not be as good as the KC mum.
 
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kerala looks like old jamaican sativas growin back in 60's&70's.I think you should give it a try.:2cents:
 

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a friend of mine passed me a branch of KC yesterday :),,,,,

i gota tell you this 1 guys:),,,,,my dog loves KC!!,,,,she thinks its a friggin doggie treat!!,,,,she sits-down when i hold it above her head,,,,i had to pull my branch out of her mouth 3x last-night,,,,she was getting on my nerves so i put the KC in its own baggie ,,,then this clever madem managed to pick the KC out of 7 different samples,,,,i caught her 2 second beffor the KC would have been lost,,,but luckly she just crumbled the buds inside the bag and made a small hole,,,,,somehow she managed to pick the KC over the cheese, blues, psycho, FFA, SSHxOGKA, OGKAxSDIBL,,,,

im smoking the KC now, but i feel i cant comment on KC yet,,,i need to grow it myself ,,,,"i like the purple bits",,,,i can tell it tastes unique!,,, for some reason i feel its a lil kushy,,,,id have to grow it myself to rate it propperly,,,,the resin content is oviously VERY good!,,i honesty cant rate it yet,,,when i first saw it i thought it was a generic hybrid but i can tell its unique now ive looked at it a lil closly,,,,,it took me a while to see the purple bits

i just thought id tell you guys about my experence with the KC and how my dog feels about it:)

i like the purple bits!!

full respect!!
 

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So it's a dog-treat too? Awesome...;)

Have a look under the budleaves (if there are any) with a scope if you can - the trichomes are really long and get all tangled up into each other - it's very strange. Many of them seem to be non-glandular, with the spherical head, and yet still filled with resin.
 

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im sure shes locked onto the KC smell:),,,the smell must be unique, shes able to pick it time after time :),,,its not like she sits there and checks the bag apeal,,:),,




i would look at the trics EM, but as im sure you have allready guessed "ive allready finished the last bit",,,,,,put it this way ,,,i find it more interesting than the weed ive grown lately,,,,i gota tell you EM it tasted better than it looked, when i first saw it i thought it was just average but im craving the taste now its gone,,,, it had something special i could tell!!!,,,,,,but to be honest i need more of it to start talking in detail:)

i defo found it more interesting than anything ive been growing lately!!
 

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It's an unusual one flavour-wise, that is for sure - I've not come across anything like it before. Also for an indica-structured plant, the high lasts an awfully long time - with hot ears being one of the regular side-effects I get...;)
 
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