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[Lapides]

Here is my question for the boys. At what point do you guys chop? I look thrugh a scope every week. My last few grows I went by the flowering time as suggested, it was OK smoke. Had I just checked the trichs with a scope I would have known to go longer. As of today, Most all are cloudy. There are a few that are amber. And some clear. What ratio should I be shooting for?

Also a major question....Where on the plant do you actually check trichs? ie top bud, middle or bottom. Small fan leaves with trichs or leaves right next to the bud. Or should I be checking all parts of the plant and doing an average?

A lot of that depends on your preference. Harvesting when the trics are clear/mostly cloudy will give you a headier type high. Harvesting when the trics are cloudy/mostly amber will give you more of a body high. I've read recently however, that some strain's trics simply don't turn amber, no matter how long they go. And I would take an average over the entire plant.

Hope this helps!

 

[barletta]

Yo, pthway4 - The State Assembly vote is waiting to be scheduled.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=116928

More than a month ago, the New Jersey Senate voted 22-16 to pass S119, the New Jersey Compassionate Use Medical Marijuana Act. Gov. Jon Corzine (D) has said he will sign the bill, but to become law it must first pass the Assembly. A companion bill, A804, is currently awaiting action in the Assembly Health and Senior Services Committee.
It is up to the chairman of the committee, Assemblyman Herb Conaway (D-Delran), to schedule the bill for a vote. Although the committee heard public testimony on the bill on May 22, 2008, Assemblyman Conaway has not indicated when he plans to schedule it for a vote.
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Yo dap, I like to take the sativas with a lil 'amber' tint to the plants at the bottom/middle of the main/fattest cola. The indies, I take a week after I think they stopped swelling. Usually works out to cloudy for the indies, and cloudy/amber/few black for the sat's. Taken any earlier, and sativas seem like a 20 minute rush for me. My guesses on trich color come from looking at pix from a digicam...

Bear your plants are lookin like they saw a lil of that 'snow'

 

[Lapides]

^^^^The Assemblyman's name is Herb!!! WTF is he waiting for!?!?!

 

[dapimmel]

Thank for the replys Lapides and Barletta. So I'll start checking the middle of the main cola. I wasn't too sure so thanks. And I do belive checking there would be the average of the whole plant. Then of course I guess I could just cut the tops that are done and let the rest go and chop them later on.

 

[Lapides]

What's up guys. I took a few pics of the ladies yesterday. These are at 12 days of 12/12:

ECSD

Rez's Williams Wonder

Have fun and play safe!

 

[Brother Bear]

Lapides - nice shots bro

 

[dapimmel]

Water Cure

Water Cure

What is the rulling on water curing within the tri-state? Anyone ever try it? I like a smooth smoke. That is why I am asking. Does it really hurt potency? I read through the water curing pages and I have mixed feelings about soaking my bud in water. It's kind of hard to fathom taking a good bud and doing something so extreme.

Let me here some feedback on this from you guys.

 

[Lapides]

Organic feeding, last two weeks of flowering nothing but straight water, and a nice slow jar cure give me a smooth smoke and outstanding taste.

I'd never put my herb in water unless I was making hash.

 

[Brother Bear]

me neither, i think its sacrilegious
but i "think" Vintner does it sometimes
and he says its still good smoke, i would take that mans word
don't quote me though, i ain't sure it's him

 

[dapimmel]

Water curing

Water curing

Thanks for the quick relpies my friends. I just chopped a plant hanging to dry as we speak. Took about an hour Trimming. I'd like to give water curing a try on the second plant I got going that is about to finish(Very frosty). Maybe Vintner could chime in here for me..........

I had to chop the main cola on my second plant and toss it due to bud mold. I was checking the plant and was wondering why the main cola was turning yellow faster than the whole plant. After I spead all the branches, I found mold. Totaly pissed me off. What shoud I do with the molded bud????? Should I treat the plant with anything??????? I just assume throw it out but what do you guys think. I chopped the first plant because I thought the mold would spread. I have about 30/70 (Cloudy/Amber) trich coverage on the plant I just chopped.

BTW. My whole Grow area stinks. Even with the Ozone Gen and Pinesol bubbler.

 

[Lapides]

chop the moldy plant and make bubble hash out of it.

 

[Red_Nine]

dapimmel, don't ever, ever smoke moldy bud. Some people will still make water hash/bubble hash out of it, washing it several times, but I won't take a chance with it. Obviously everyone is different and this is just my opinion. I know people do it all the time, but I always have enough smoke that if I had to throw it out it wouldn't hurt my stash at all, and I don't sell anything. Also, I'd save up and get a good fan/carbon filter asap. It is so worth the money for the safety and peace of mind you will have. Don't skimp in this area. It is just as important as the seeds/cuts/lights, etc even though it's hard to shell out the cash for it because you don't really "need" it. But trust me, you will never go without once you have one. You could also make one, I know there are directions on the DIY thread.

If you dry and cure your bud correctly, I don't think you would even want to try the water cure thing. I couldn't imagine doing this to my buds. They are so smooth and good tasting as is and I'm a really picky person when it comes to taste and smoothness. Also grow organic, this helps with the smoothness, or if in hydro make sure you flush really well. Still organic done right and dried and cured right will give you the best smoke you've ever had. As long as you have dank genetics of course.

 

[xOOx]

there is a thread here somewhere that talks about water curing
and how to do it..maybe it was OG..

water cured bud has hardly any smell to it..
..and when you smoke it, hardly any weed odor is emitted.. very stealthy
..also no odor when curing..
submerged buds do not stink..

the gist of the thread is to fill up a regular cooler with water maybe a couple inches deep, put the buds right in there, and use something to weight them down so they stay submerged in the water..

..maybe like a heavy plate or something just to keep them underwater..

after a couple of days they will stay submerged without anything holding them down..the water turns a funky color of green..that's the chrolophyl coming out of the buds..

once a day you gotta refresh the water, use the water cooler drain valve to get the water out, refill with fresh water, from a hose even!..

do this for at least 5 days, but preferably 7.. but no longer <--..water should be clear by then.. no more green ick..

remove the buds, and use a dehumidifier to quick dry them out..or i guess you can let them naturally dry, but they will be soaked...so risk of molding is high.. a dehumy is best. they are totally smokable and as cured as can ever be at that point.. you can also use one of those food dehydrators too.. set on the lowest setting..to dry out the water cured buds..

water cured buds are actually more potent then jar cured cause they shrink more and thc is more concentrated per hit..

if u want i guess you could try it with just a bud or two in a cure jar filled w/water.. same idea as above^^..and if you like it..do the rest..

i've tried it b4 on a few buds, it works..

..no taste when smoked.. but gets u high

xoox

 

[Brother Bear]

Bubba X Abusive

 

[vintner]

Lapides & BB: Nice bud porn
dapimmel: I've water cured some bud a couple of times cause I couldn't stand the taste. If you've read nitetigers water curing thread, you know as much as I do about the subject. I don't have an EC meter, so I have no idea how successful I was in that regard. xOOx: You've done some water curing? When I changed the water everyday, it stunk to high heaven! The water was a little cloudy, but there was no "green ick". It worked to mellow out the flavor. It's hard to tell if it effected the potency at all since the only other thing in our stash box at the time was some very potent Bubba. I doubt I'd water cure again, or for any other reason. I understand that some folks water cure for health purposes, but I try to keep my grows organic. Like the lowryders I water cured, IMHO, it's a novelty at best.
Stay safe yall &

 

[xOOx]

what vint said^^ here is the post he is talking about..

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=403347&postcount=28

i could of swore i read it on OG too tho...way back, not sure if it was nite or not then.

but what i said above is how i did it, but i used just a baby jar, and a couple small buds.. not a cooler.. it robs the bud of natural flavor and taste, and the bud i smoke is smooth w/o it, so
i doubt you will like the result..but if you need to be as stinkless as possible.. its an option..

edit vint: yes it was lite greenish and off color.. i dumped it outside and refilled with just sink water..after a few days it was just clear..i never smelled the water..when the jar was closed there was no odor... different strain maybe..

xoox

 

[johnipedestran]

I have an aversion to the very idea of water curing.

but if it works for ya, beautiful.....

next time make sure you have better air movment on those buds for the cat with the mold.....like Red said do not smoke.
peace
jip

 

[barletta]

What's happenin tri-st8 Bear, why the thumbs? Your plants always look delicious, and I personally NEVER mind seein your stuff full size

Lap - Got D? I had (and lost) a cross where the ecsd was hiding in the background, but the subtleties she added are what made the smoke memorable - You know, kerosene and lemons...

Hey a note on the moldy nugget. I started a thread on moldy buds, but it turned into a shit flinging fest between myself and a non grower, so no need to link it. I made some bubble out of moldy buds, and the hash still tasted like mold. I feel like the only way to safely deal with mold (and still salvage some smoke) is through chemical extractions. I ran another batch of moldy buds through an everclear wash, and the oil came out fine.

What's good tri-state... 1 month till last frost...

 

[dapimmel]

Many thanks for all the answers. Molded portion of bud has already been tossed. Yeah, your right I didn't have a fan blowing in the room this time around. The molded cola was tightly surrounded by the other colas and moisture built up causing the mold. I might just try a water cure run on a small batch. I do have an EC meter and RO unit, So if you homies want me to log it I can.

RED I do have a DIY carbon filter but I'm quite sure it's useful life is over. I think part of my problem is I pull air through a Sun System hood and some of the smell goes past the glass. What is your input on pushing air out through a filter instead of sucking. My setup is Fan pulling through hood and carbon filter in grow room. CAN filter is on the wish list. Already have the 6" Vortex. Need seperate filter/fan for drying room. Currently computer fans no filter.

Vintner Yeah read that thread. That's where I got the idea. Even though I read it I'm sure you still know more than me. This is my 5th grow and getting better everytime.

xOOx I'll give the water cure a try in a Mason jar on a few select buds. I like the idea that it won't smell as much when smoking. But I do believe from what I've read, that It smells really bad when curing in the jar(Because of the holes in the lid.) If you guy want EC readings let me know. I'll probably chop the other plant in a few weeks.

Again, THANKS EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Red_Nine]

dapimmel, if you decide to get a filter,I'd highly reccomend a Phat brand filter. They are a little more expensive, but they last way longer than any other brand I've used. My last one lasted over 2 years of non stop growing strains such as Bubba Kush and some Diesels. Stick your nose up to the exhaust air and you smell absolutely nothing. The way I have my room set up is to pull air through my carbon filter. I don't exhaust my light hood. You may want to seal the glass and any other small cracks or openings in your hood. I'm not sure what most people use for this, but maybe even some duct tape. Just don't make it permanate or you won't be able to change the bulb,lol. I know someone who did this. I've never tried to push air through the filter so I honestly can't say from experience what the difference would be, but I like to have negative air pressure in my rooms so no bad air can escape. It must go out the filter. Works perfect.