I smoke to treat Bipolr and ADD, if you suffer from either, what strain should i be..

[illnillinois]

I see Hundreds of different types and hybrids for different conditions, but not really sure of what i need for mine.
I am going to be moving to Colorado to get my MMJ card and fix myself correctly.
Anyone else smoke for either of the two conditions and which have you found to work the best..
Thanks in advance..

illnill

 

[Space Ghost]

I have bipolar II (which is very different from bipolar I) and weed alone has not been effective enough to stabilize my mood so along with smoking mellow sativas (skunks mostly) when I'm down and smoking heavy indicas when I'm hypo-manic(usually sensi star), I take a small daily dose of lamictal (which has just gone generic [woo-hoo]) so it's only about $5.50 for a months supply.

A lot of people on here bash all pharmaceuticals, but without them I would probably be dead (I have schizophrenia as well, and that s a whole other boat) Hopefully you won't have to ride the pill dragon, but they do help a lot.

So when you get a bout of depression stick to mellow sats ("the pure" from tfd is a good one) and when hypo-mania begins, switch to HEAVY indy's (sensi star, maple leaf indica, black domina, ect.) but the problem with bipolar is that it is very hard to tell when your mania begins, so ask your friends/family to tell your when you're acting strang and do a serious reality check...

keep on fightin'

 

[texsativa]

Thanks for posting SpaceGhost. Always good to hear someone fighting the fight and doing well.

 

[Dr. Bloom]

I have ADD and sometimes smoke with the intention of doing schoolwork afterwards. I find that a small dose of a Sativa works best for enhancing my creativity while maintaining my attention and focus. I just make sure not to smoke too much because then I just end up more ADD, so i'd be very careful of that. Sativa/Indica Hybrids also work, and allow for a little more pain relief along with the mental effects. Anyway good illillinois.

 

[ureapwhatusow]

I have bipolar II (which is very different from bipolar I) and weed alone has not been effective enough to stabilize my mood so along with smoking mellow sativas (skunks mostly) when I'm down and smoking heavy indicas when I'm hypo-manic(usually sensi star), I take a small daily dose of lamictal (which has just gone generic [woo-hoo]) so it's only about $5.50 for a months supply.

A lot of people on here bash all pharmaceuticals, but without them I would probably be dead (I have schizophrenia as well, and that s a whole other boat) Hopefully you won't have to ride the pill dragon, but they do help a lot.

So when you get a bout of depression stick to mellow sats ("the pure" from tfd is a good one) and when hypo-mania begins, switch to HEAVY indy's (sensi star, maple leaf indica, black domina, ect.) but the problem with bipolar is that it is very hard to tell when your mania begins, so ask your friends/family to tell your when you're acting strang and do a serious reality check...

keep on fightin'

Medications save my life thats for sure.

I was diagnosed bipolar preteen (manic depressant in those days)

I go through severe depression interupted by mania.

I like kush. I like high percentage of THC.

I find that it aggitates my bipolar (i.e. right after smoking, I will be happy as hell one minute, heart broken the next and back again) if I only smoke small amounts, BUT if I smoke 24.7 (i am not being coy) and keep my system soakked wiht thc, receptors full I am as close to 100% that I am gonna get

right now I am using jsut weed

my last daily pill list was

zyprexa x1, depakote x1, xanax as needed, effexor, eskalith

I agree about the medicine saving lives. Its just that many many doctors are uninformed and prescribe without proper guidance so all the over medicating or improper medicating is taking away from the lives it saves

 

[N. Accumbens]

Hindu Kush- Great for ADHD Just re-ordered some HK because the hazes are not doing
their trick as far as concentration goes...Hazes may be too strong for the manic adhd type. I am not ADD, but ADHD. I am also a psychologist, and honestly I can not say which doctor differentiated ADD from ADHD in myself when I also have mania (BP I). I am the poster child for both disorders (DSM-IV), though I find I have only one...it is a circadian rhythm disorder which has only recently been studied. A sensitivity to light which then affects my sleep/wake cycle and associated hormonal secretions, leading to disruptions in mood.
I find that this can be dealt with non-pharmaceutically with only herbal relief. I am in a sticky situation because all medications we have tried (ALL) have failed w/ wretched side -effects. I would definitely say that about 30 % of BP cases are not BP at all, but circadian rhythm disorders...which btw also exhibit similar symptoms as ADHD, those with dually diagnosed cases (ADD/ADHD/ BP) might want to check into the validity of light therapy...and personally I am suprised there are no threads about this since we are consistently near lights (as growers).

I personally in the winters make sure to spend time by blue light (MH or flouro's) to combat winter depression states, and in the summer where northern areas get much light, I make sure to have a red or dark, but not blue sheet over my bedroom window, and lights off or no visits after a certain time ( at least two hours before my desired bettime (no this is not always feasible, but melatonin supplements can help in cases when you must recieve bouts of light, when the body would prefer none. Light during sleeping hours in intensities as low as 15 lumens of a blue hue, will interrupt melotonin production, if the light is intense enough melatonin production will stop (makes you think twice about turning on the bathroom light at night, doesn't it). Just so we understand, melatonin is a precursor for seotonin, hence if we do not produce enough by having darkness during sleep cycles then we risk moodiness, particularly smokers of canna because we are in dire need of serotonin which is not easily produced (by this I mean it is an exhaustible source which needs time and materials to renew ). So if anyone is wondering how to help ease their sufferings in mood or concentration, insomnia, fatigue, etc. I would definately look into light therapy...particularly for the scholars since this is a fresh field.

Other info:

Melatonin is pre-cursed by L-typtophan (found in milk and dairy- warm milk before bed- good idea- the heat helps activate the L-tryptophan in the milk so one gets a solid does of neuro- precursors right when they need them.

Other important minerals in melatonin and subsequent serotonin production are Calcium [Ca], Magnesium [Mg], and the vitamin B6, 12, complex.


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Lastly, on a side note... men are more likely to start a substance abuse disorder (Yeah, that thing, uh-huh) which is followed by the development of a mental disorder.
In women the case is opposite, where frequently they begin with a mental disorder and then move on to substance abuse for relief of symptoms.
- This of course, can not be taken on a case by case basis, but is a generalization.

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G-Luck to all.

Hindu Kush- Concentration
Sadhu (No longer available?)- definite manic- blocker
Hazes (SSH- a good one for the gigglies)- depression, but not pain as much (depends on the haze)

Otherwise I'll be doing a full check on med properties in DJ Shorts line, which I just now dabbling in...but there should be some insight this line I hope...I believe most in dj's line will have some medicinal properties, particularly flo and bb lineage...which should be interesting in the new cocoa Kushes and Vanillalunas..

Take it cheesy....all

Nucleus Accumbens

 

[trippytroll]

Melatonin is pre-cursed by L-typtophan (found in milk and dairy- warm milk before bed- good idea- the heat helps activate the L-tryptophan in the milk so one gets a solid does of neuro- precursors right when they need them.

great post! but milk contains an extremely low amount of L-typtophan, warming it does increase its potency, but in order for you to actually feel the effects you would need to consume an extremely large quantity of milk (variant on body weight, but nonetheless would be impossible).

I dont know the numbers offhand, but I believe it to be something in the area of 20+ gallons for someone in the 160lbs range.

One I didnt see mentioned that works for me is an herb called Valerian root. You can get it at the drug store. It stinks! But it worked for me.

 

[tequila_sunrise]

great post! but milk contains an extremely low amount of L-typtophan, warming it does increase its potency, but in order for you to actually feel the effects you would need to consume an extremely large quantity of milk (variant on body weight, but nonetheless would be impossible).

I dont know the numbers offhand, but I believe it to be something in the area of 20+ gallons for someone in the 160lbs range.

One I didnt see mentioned that works for me is an herb called Valerian root. You can get it at the drug store. It stinks! But it worked for me.

A buddy of mine used to swear by it. I prefer the heavier white strains they do well.

Master kush is good for calming you down. Personally, I am Bipolar I(I think) and when I get manic, indicas are in order.

 

[mostwanted]

Ive got extreme ADD and the best strain for it is the Dogshit

 

[cannakid]

i think that one is actually Shit by Mr. Nice seeds, ive found "Dogshit" in the street but not in any mmj clubs. it really seems like the same thing. i also found "Dogshit" to have very potent effects, that was a while back so im looking for it again.. im close to getting theas beans, maby through the butique though.

it seems like the street apeal went in the direction of "Catpiss" i think its clone only but Catpiss is also on my list of wanted flavors. -quite the opposite from shit/dogshit but does wonders 4 depression much like kali mist

a skunk afghan scross makes shit smelly, its suposed to be a quick(40-50day) and heavy yealder too (its actually skunk#1(Dom. Afghan) x skunk#1) -news to me, i though it was just afghan x skunk!

http://www.mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=33

 

[DocLeaf]

Growdoc has developed a new strain called 'ADHD' specifically to help ppl with ADD / ADHD,,, and he's dedicated

Hold on in there,, Growdoc is onto it!! :friends:

peace peace peace

 

[erbium]

Durban Poison works well for my ADD and generally puts me in a great mood. It isn't overly potent so it is good for an all day smoke. It is an oldschool strain but it is still around today for a reason.

That being said, like pill meds, everybody is different. What works for some may have a terrible effect on another. If you are using herb to treat something as severe as Bi-Polar you should start out with weaker classic strains as opposed to white strains and such. You want something that you can use all the time that isn't going to make you useless. Bi-Polar is pretty severe and you should still keep regular appointments with a shrink or a psychologist until you are sure you have it under control. If you are manic you may not notice what everyone else is.

Good luck.

 

[N. Accumbens]

Yeah!

Yeah!

DL:
Wow, nothing like having a doctor in the house.

Sounds like a great strain: ADHD thank all

I wonder, not rhetorically, whether such a strain is developed through selective breeding for this medicinal quality, or if it was naturally inherent, or was this particular quality bound to some other prized quality in this particular ADHD strain we speak of.

erbium: I agree on the durban, I just could never actually find a pheno I liked the taste of...but I should try other packs.
Also, you are absolutely correct about keeping up on psych evaluations, and regular doctors visits....this is critical to mental health and hygiene.
Trippytroll:
Yeah, hehehe... you must have misunderstood me. I only meant to imply that a good way to restock on the right chemicals at a good time would be to drink warm milk before bedtime, since L-typtophan is not the only thing at work, as rasta would say... but warm liquid in belly, also helps. I certainly did not mean to imply that you would "feel" different but internally one will surely be healthier(unless they are lactose intolerant -hh lame humor I know).

It may sound simple. but for someone like me who is slithering along the line of chemical stability in the mind, a couple days without milk or other tryptophan replenishing sources and I am on a fast train to scary places. Two or three days for a manic person and no melatonin ( I prefer to create mine naturally in the brain) then I am in trouble.

Calcium, Magnesium, and Potassium are other key elements I have found to be directly linked to my psychological aka neurological well-being. I must supplement these at least twice weekly.

Spirulina and other alga are good sources of supplemental vitamins and minerals...I stole a bottle from the grow room and haven't given it back yet.

Peace,
Accumbens

Thanks icmag community for making my day today brighter, I have been sick...but soon I will be better, I am just sure of it.


P.S.- No, those plants aren't sick....
They are DJ shorts Cocoa Kush...tooooo much crinkle seed pack LOL truly an odd edition

 

[MR.GreenTacos]

I did not know that thanks for the info ,you seem to have alot on your plate.