Choking your plants?

[LilMan72003]

So I spoke with my father today about his grows he used to do "back in the day".

He explained to me a process he used to take place in called choking his plants. During the last 7-10 days before harvest he would tie chicken wire around the stem, right underneath the cola and would have them tied VERY tightly.

Now my dad has a degree in botany. He says that when plants are threatened they secrete a natural hormone as a defense mechanism. In this case, his buds would become extremely drenched in resin. This might also be due in part that he grew 100% Humboldt Indica Bud. He says that he did this method with tons of strains and that it was always the best bud around.

Just wondering if anyone else has tried this method?
Sounds like it would work to me.

-LilMan

 

[smokeymacpot]

next it'll be "singing to you plant creates more resin"

"Sounds like it would work to me." ..... come off it... because its just stoner bullshit myths.

 

[LilMan72003]

Maybe if you could give me your reason as to why it would not work please?
Yes my dads degree doesn't in botany doesn't mean shit compared to your genius?

I do not appreciate the harsh response.

 

[green_grow]

next it'll be "singing to you plant creates more resin"

"Sounds like it would work to me." ..... come off it... because its just stoner bullshit myths.

totally uncalled for . the question was whether anyone else had tried this; pretty straightforward. if you have tried it and found it made no difference then, please, enlighten us.

 

[bluntman008]

ive heard of people sticking tacks and what not in the stalks..probably the same idea?

 

[LilMan72003]

Thank you green_grow for keepin the trolls out

Bluntman008-I would think that is definitely the same idea. Just using tacks to be weary of not destroying the plant all together accidentally?

Any insight into the idea of beating your plants to create more resin, please chime in!!

 

[Guest]

Whoa! First reply, what's up dude, bad day? - Be polite.

I reckon this would work at least a little, it's the same old theory really - A theory which in my experience DOES work; more or less depending on strain. Let me explain.
When a female marijuana plant is in approx. the last 2 weeks of flowering, it's ready to die (coz its an annual) and is prepared to do anything to reproduce, stressing her in these last 2 weeks of flowering sends a signal that she is in danger and has not yet been pollinated so produce as much stickiness (resin) as possible to increase the chances of pollen getting stuck to one or some of her flowers. Makes sense - Altho I'm sure a few people will be like; where's ur scientific evidence, where's ur photos, blah blah blah ... I don't need evidence coz in my personal experience, if I stress my plants in the last 2 weeks of flowering they pump out more resin, or at least it appears they do ... Now I couldn't give a flying f**k if anyone doesn't believe me, they can try it for themselves and see if anything works for them. I tried shit, it worked, yay for me ... Others can do nothing OR try shit, if it works yay for you - if not, go back to ur old methods, no loss.

P.S - If ur worried stressing ur plants in the final weeks will cause herms - It doesn't really matter coz they won't have enough time to develop and pollinate the plant/room anyway. I've never had it happen at least.

Ways of heard of stressing your plant for benefit:

- Turning lights out for final 1-2 weeks (0/24 ... light/dark period) -This is the method I use with 'white strains'
- Tacks/Pins/Small nails in stalk
- Ring-barking (Same as wire tight round stem I guess) - Never tried this but may work, would cut off nutrient supply from roots, good or bad
? I don't know
- Severely dropping humidity and/or temp.

Duno if these work, the dark thing does seem to ... Mayb strain dependent?

Cheers anyway.

 

[Guest]

LilMan and GreenFingers, hey, I have noticed when some of my colas got heavy and tipped over, a Knot formed at the bend. Then I recall where the "Auxins" (sp) rush to the injured area and concentrate vital efforts to heal the wound. I have also noted that the cola became unusually robust and hard in comparison to adjacent colas.

Food for thought and worth pursuing.

Thanks LilMan for the post. From observations good things often result.

Respects,

TyStik

 

[Saibai]

- Tacks/Pins/Small nails in stalk
- Ring-barking (Same as wire tight round stem I guess) - Never tried this but may work, would cut off nutrient supply from roots, good or bad
? I don't know

I'm planning on giving these two techniques a try this year outdoors. I`ve heard the nails tech called "crucifying" - two nails through the base of the main stem at right angles, making a cross.
Ring barking apparently can also help late sativas finish earlier.
I will of course post my results with a control plant for each.

 

[bighogg]

i've never tried this method, but definitely think it has merit!!

this is just another way to stress the plant, and stressing a plant at the end absolutely helps the end product. that's no joke.

the trick is knowing when to stress and how much to stress. definitely an advanced gardeners technique!

 

[evilunclephil]

Seems if the stem feeding the cola is pinched closed like that it wouldn't flush as well as it wouldn't be able to as readily suck up the water you give it...right?

 

[Suby]

With all due respect to the thread poster this is rubbish.
Keeping the plant stress free and nutes flowing through the stem makes bud big, the rest is hype period.

 

[bighogg]

lol. stressing plants at the right time, absolutely positively makes the buds more resinous and potent. nobody said anything about stress making the buds BIGGER.

 

[smokeymacpot]

you can say all you like about my attitude, but if i see shit that is of no use to anyone i will say so.
this is where this thread belongs http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=91270

i dont want to see anyone stunting their plant on purpose by throttling its water/nute supply. you will not get it extra frosty or make it put out extra trichs. trichs are fully formed way before the last 2 weeks, u cannot do anything to them apart from give them time to ripen. stunting will slow the ripening. use common sense and not stoner bullshit please.

 

[Suby]

BH trichomes are either there or not
48hrs of darkness, hanging upside down with the rootball, using pepsi the day before harvest, and even chocking them lol does nothing to improve the plant.

The only thing stress (which is too broad a term to usefull but anyway..) is good for is getting vegging plants to bush out.
I've practiced suppercropping and even that needs to be stopped after 2-3 weeks in flowering.

There isn't a single serious grower here touting any of these techniques.

 

[bighogg]

you can say all you like about my attitude, but if i see shit that is of no use to anyone i will say so.
this is where this thread belongs http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=91270

i dont want to see anyone stunting their plant on purpose by throttling its water/nute supply. you will not get it extra frosty or make it put out extra trichs. trichs are fully formed way before the last 2 weeks, u cannot do anything to them apart from give them time to ripen. stunting will slow the ripening. use common sense and not stoner bullshit please.

ROFLMAO

properly stressing a plant is a highly advanced skill that noobs should avoid entirely. in fact intermediate growers should only pay it passing attention IMO

if you don't like stressing your plants fine, but to say it CAN'T make buds more resinous is something i can't let slide.

 

[smokeymacpot]

ROFLMAO

properly stressing a plant is a highly advanced skill that noobs should avoid entirely. in fact intermediate growers should only pay it passing attention IMO

if you don't like stressing your plants fine, but to say it CAN'T make buds more resinous is something i can't let slide.

i dont care whether you want to let it slide or not. there is NO proof to show that it works. to be blunt its just some random person coming out with rubbish. and its all members with hardly any posts here defending it.

if you want people to accept what your saying provide evidence with comparisons.

ive already stated that trichs are formed long before harvest, so how can a plant suddenly make more because you tied wire round it?
you may get it to appear like its got more by drying out the cola because the wire cut off the water supply, but that is just the normal process of drying buds and its actually harvesting before the bud is ready.

so come on..

 

[bighogg]

u are conflating two issues; bud size and quality of hi (trichs)

i didn't say buds would be bigger i said they would be more resinous.

i've grown the same pheno for over 8 years. i've had crops where the buds were huge beautiful healthy and UNSTRESSED at 70 days and i've had crops that were OK looking buds but very stressed at 56 days. the stressed crops ALWAYS got more people talking....IT DIDN'T MATTER THAT I KNEW THE BUDS THAT WERE STRESSED WERE NOT AS HEALTHY. people liked the hi from the trichs on the stressed buds more. we are talking about tru stoners here. not some fuckin pinch hitters...k?

if you know what you are doing u can have it both ways. grow really healthy buds for most of the cycle, then stress at the end.

for me this is a non debatable issue because it is ridiculous. OF COURSE stressing your plants correctly produces a better quality hi. the debate should be about what type of stress and when to stress...for advanced growers only.

 

[m@rg]

there must be a hint of truth with stressing a plant ,as people are nearly up for fighting to make there point .. jk....or its just another ganja myth

the only theory i can think of,about benefical stressing of a plant in flower
is that the stress could some how cause the plant to start degrading its thc earlier,therefore leading to a full amber smoke at 70 days , thus making it stand out from normal grown weed

i dunno it just sounds more probable than gaining more thc or resin

 

[Suby]

u are conflating two issues; bud size and quality of hi (trichs)

i didn't say buds would be bigger i said they would be more resinous.

Respectfully neither smokey or me are confused, neither pistils or trcihomes will materialize because of stress, you can only set the foundation for them by having a well fed healthy plant with a well developed root structure and very tight branching and internodal distance.
Any sort of training or breaking of the stems will make them thicker during their vegetative and early flowering phase but it comes at the cost of time.

for me this is a non debatable issue because it is ridiculous. OF COURSE stressing your plants correctly produces more resin. the debate should be about what type of stress and when to stress...for advanced growers only.

At best you can help swell the trichomes by picking at the right time but I would like to see a side by side.
Incedentally techniques like these get big laughs on any other NON pot growing forum.