SuperSilverHaze from Mr Nice, Part II...pedro's way

[Guest]

O Man!!

I was born and raised in Florida. I was back there a few weeks ago.

You guys really should be growing all the great sativa strains down there where you can grow outside. Makes me so f'ing jealous at times!! LOL
Snowed here today !! and there is still snow knee deep in any potential outdoor growing area around here...out in the boonies.

When I was in FL last month I saw zillions of potential grow areas around where I grew up. It's really dry in places but still I would think plenty of opportunity for a guerilla grow. Or am I missing something? Like heavy air patrols or something. I know places where nobody could find them from the ground.

Anyway welcome to my grow!! SSHxG13 should be very nice. Where did it come from if I may ask?

Oh that just makes me sooooooo jealous seeing ALLL those plants outside like that when I'm in snow!!


pedro

 

[Aquaman2112]

A Ole OG Buddy said they were the Shit and gave me some.. way back when I just got around to them.... yeah outdoors is sweet but real hard work....But worth it!!! Hate Draughts I have carried my share of 5gal. water jugs

 

[BadKarma]

Hello everyone
Nice Aqua, I want a outside grow very bad.
Well Pedro
I pulled my clones Friday and should be flowering in about 2 weeks




Happy Growing My Friends
BK

Pedro give my thread a bump when you flip to 10/14 or 12/12 or which ever you pick.

 

[Aquaman2112]

Hello everyone
Nice Aqua, I want a outside grow very bad.
.

Nothing alot of searching for the right plot,
tilling up the soil adding 15 million bags of soil additives Cow Manure, peatmoss, top soil,then the fun starts Watering in these out of the way Grows...LOL but when it all comes togther you go hey This Rocks ... Then start preparing for next year

Neat Utube outdoor Grow series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHfkXds0E0


Aqua~

PS I'm getting to old for this.... gonna stop in 25-30 more years

 

[Guest]

too old? LOLOLOLOL

I'm 60+

SSH 1&2 got just water today with LK 1tsp/gallon. The others didn't need any water.

pedro is off to work!

pedro


Update this afternoon
I came home this afternoon and a closer look at SSH1 revealed it is a male. I took him out of my hut and put him on the veg shelf under 10/14 for now...till I get a suitable male isolation chamber finished. I'm going to make some seeds for down the line.

SSH2 which went to flower at the same time isn't showing anything yet. My guess it will be a female.

 

[Guest]

I love doing posts when I'm fried and feeling good. And I feel good partly because I've just spent some "quality time" with my plants hehehehehehe!

OKkkkkkkkkkkyyyyyyyyyy a brief update. I put SSH3,4,5,6 in flowering on March 2nd.
SSH1 and 2 went in on Feb. 26th.
SSH1 showed male March 5th....probably the 4th though.
SSH2 is almost certainly female, no sign of balls and has the fem look

here they were on March 2nd



SSH1 had balls everywhere. He was as big as SSH2 shown below, but I chopped him back to fit in here for now.



SSH2 male. Sprouted Jan 31. 12/12 on Feb 26.Showed balls March4th


OK here is SSH2 and I'm 90% sure SSH2 will be a girl. These pics will show what I am doing with my pruning...maybe. I'm a shitty pic taker. What I have now are two successive opposing nodes of the main stemT. They make 4 branches at 90 degrees from each other. I topped the 1st time at the node immediately above those two. This would have been the plants 6th node. I allowed it to branch out and then topped each of those two branches. So now...inside the 4 branches of the lowest nodes I have 4 more upward growing "tops". (See the picture looking straight down on the plant. ). I have also nipped off ALL the budding nodes from about halfway down on ALL branches. I left ALL the fan leaves. The big fans will stay for the life of the plant.




Looking down you cans see how nice and symetrical the plant is. Yeah, I'm obsessive about some things. One is I like healthy plants. I'm trimming and shaping to get good nodes that have lots of space to grow in. Limiting the number of bud sites wil make the remaining ones bigger. Opening up the plant makes for better overall health for my style of growing. I don't like packing plants tightly..



See this lil group of "lesions". They have been there for weeks. They haven't spread on the leaf, and there aren't any more anywhere else on the plant. This is the sort of thing you need to watch, but don't panic over them. Sometimes you just get this sort of thing. If the problem spreads, THEN you need to find out what is going on. IMO, too many folks start adding this, that, and the other thing to "cure" a problem like this...and they usually just fuck up their grow. Remember, plants in nature have to put up with all sorts of nasty shit....and they live through it. Your plant will not die while you take a deep breath for 24 hours and do some homework, ask questions here on the Sick Plant forum, or ask your friends for some help. PLEASE take the best pics you can. pics are worth many 1000's of words



These aren't good pics but maybe you can see what is going on with my pruning. I think you can see how I left the fans.






Roots!!!!!!!!!!! Most of you know how obsessed with roots I am This plant has developed, and continues to develop, a both massive and healthy root system. The roots are white, and spread out evenly, and vary in size down to the fuzzy hairs we all love to see on roots. This plant is 35 days old. This 3 liter pot is the 3rd container it has been in. This has allowed the plant to build a roots system that is now essentially 3 liters. This container has roots which occupy every cubic inch...literally. The exception being the top 1/2 inch of soil.

Transplanting up when the plant has completely fill its pot with roots, but hasn't become rootbound is the trick. Now, since I have to limit my plants size, this plant and the others that I flower will spend a bit longer in these 3 liter pots than if I have more vertical space. I'm going to let them stretch a bit in the 3 liter pots to help keep them shorter. It will mean daily watering, but that's life



Whew!!!!!!!
pedro

 

[BadKarma]

Hey Pedro
Everything looks great. I topped my #1 Mother the same way you did your plants then I cloned that big sucker lmao.
#1 on far right.


I will be watching this with great interest as my next grow will be trimmed/topped like you did this one. I have a twist that I cant wait to show everyone but thats down the road.

I hope you get what your looking for in that male. Good growing
BK

 

[Sleepy]

i think i'll tag along and learn something...


i was thinking...man, you eat a lot of taffy!!

tha plants look great!

 

[Guest]

i think i'll tag along and learn something...


i was thinking...man, you eat a lot of taffy!!

tha plants look great!

Thanks for the compliment. I'm gonna repost a rant I made on another thread here. It concerns "transplanting".

And hehehehe!! I don't eat that Taffy, but I have someone save the containers for me. They are ideal 3Liter pots because they are square. Square pots hold 25% more soil than a round one of same footprint.

Anyway don't any of you people believe transplanting is harmful to healthy plants. It is just not so.

here's my rant from elsewhere today.....


Utter nonsense IMO. My plants have as healthy a root system as you'll find in a soil grow. This is the 2nd transplant for these plants...from 1 liter to those 3 Liter square pots....where they will stay until they go into 11(3 gallon) liter for final flowering.

Snapped roots? Not if you use smooth wall containers and remove the plants at the proper time. I transplant about 12-24 hours after watering. Just how long after watering will vary depending on how fast water is utilized by the plant. It's just something you learn after a while. I have been transplanting plants of all kinds for over 30 years. The plants rootball will be moist, but NOT WET. It comes out nicely and won't fall apart. BTW, never let your plant dry completely out. Ummm I like perlite, but too much perlite will make rootballs fall apart easier in my experience. So you need to be aware of that if you use a lot of perlite like I do.

You also need to wait until your plants root system has pretty much filled out its present container before transplanting. Transplanting too early, before roots have spread throughout the pot probably WILL mean a messy transplant. There's not enough root system to hold the soil together.



These plants are being transplanted after only about 7 days in their 1 liter Walmart paint pot.(shown on left side by square pots) They filled up the pot with roots that quickly. 2 days after going in these I could see roots. They grew through an inch of soil in <48 hours. These two below were transplanted to 3L on Feb 22nd.




Here is SSH2, one of the above plants on March 6th, 15 days later. SSH1, the other plant in the pic above is a male I'm keeping for breeding. Looks real stressed doesn't it? And BTW, it has been topped twice and extensively pruned and trimmed to get final shape I want. It will go into 11 L soon.





Last grow like this I transplanted the last time to 11Liter pots about 3-4 weeks into flower(This SSH from MNS is a 9-11week+ strain)....about as long as I would want to go into flowering and transplant "voluntarily".

pedro


Click on pics to enlarge

Here are more pics from today March 8th. I'm all fired up because I hate to see people get bad advice.

Here is SSH1 1st transplant on Feb 16th when it went from a 10Oz Solo cup filled 3/4 full to the 1 Liter shown up above. SSH2 was done the same day. Both sprouted on Jan 31st. See the massive lil root system? Very healthy.



Here is SSH2 roots today. They have spread evenly throughout the pot. This is aided because I made my soil light and well draining. This lets roots fill the spaces quickly and spread throughout the pot..NOT just along the sides and bottom.[edit] This is one more reason I harp on getting a good light soil made.

One reason many growers have all their roots on the sides and bottom is that their soils are too heavy and dense. They retain moisture too long. Air spaces are tiny to non existent. In situations like this the roots aren't stupid. They grow where the best environment for them is...along the sides and bottom.

Soils that remain too wet for too long tend to become more acidic more quickly too. And this leads to all sorts of bad things. One is that the plant will have nutrient uptake problems, aerobic bacteria, the good bacteria will die and anaerobic bacteria, the bad kind will grow Dense, heavy, poor draining soils are BAD NEWS in my opinion. I rant a lot about making good light well draining soils, but I have my reasons.


and the SSH2 today



SSH5 is coming along nicely as well.



Here is SSH4. Massive healthy white roots...all nice and "fuzzy" like they should be.



Here they all are except SSH1 which is separated cause he's a male
SSH3,4,5,6 on each side are about a week behind SSH2 in the middle.

 

[Aquaman2112]

pedro, your planrs are looki!ng great man hope mine end up as pre0tty as urs!

 

[Guest]

pedro, your planrs are looki!ng great man hope mine end up as pre0tty as urs!

Thanks!! I read your link on growing. I'm sure yours will look great too.

I watered the 3-6 today with tapwater and 1tsp/gallon of Liquid Karma. Duuno what the pH was of it going in, and I didn't care.

I DID measure the pH of the run off since so many people out there are obsessed with runoff pH. As it happened it was around 6.0-6.5. Guess that means I don't have to add anything to my soil huh? LOLOL!!

I had to tie down SSH1, the male. He was getting too tall. He's flowering over under my vegging light. I put a filter on my intake blower. It won't be perfect, but I don't care. I want seeds this run anyway.

I see some differences in 3-6 showing up. SSH5 has longer node spacing than the other 3 and is taller.

SSH2 the older/bigger plant is now 27" tall. She has nearly doubled in height since going into flower on Feb 26th ,13 days ago.

I made up some more soil for when they go into 11Liter pots for finishing. Same recipe I used above but I didn't put any Nitrogen Guano in there at all. The only guano is a Hi Phosphorus, Nitrogen free guano. The EWC and residual Nitrogen from soil they are in will do for now. If they need more , I'll dose them with some PBPro flower which has some Nitrogen in it.

Later

pedro

 

[BadKarma]

Looks real nice Pedro.

 

[Guest]

Hey BadKarma!!

Thanks. Here's some new pictures from today

I have some of my male...and while it's still too early to know for sure, it is looking like I'm going to have 5/6 females from this batch. SSH3,4,5,6 are looking pretty much like the pic of SSH5 shown below. I should know for sure in a few days.

SSH2 got water with 2tsp/gallon of PBPro Grow and 1/2 tsp/gallon of PBPro Flower. PPM was about 480PPM. The pH was between 6.0 and 6.5 or so. I use the color indicator method.

pedro


here's all five of them SSH2 is in the middle.



Here is SSH1 my male. He is about 14 days into flower here.



Here is a closer look. Let's hope he is a potent pheno if he's gonna be having an orgy with my girls



This is SSH5 8 days into flower. 3,4,6 top formations all look like this so far. Makes me think they may all be girls.



closer look at one of SSH5's tops.

 

[redheadedbitch]

this is a tight ass thread, keep up the good work guys

 

[nuggetshiner]

Looking great Pedro, fun to watch. Nice skilz. NS

 

[Guest]

hey hey hey hey !!!!!!!! Is everyone feeling good?

I had to tie my male over some more today. He had got within a 1/2" of the light. If you look at the picture of him on the shelf, those two outside branches on left and right are growing quickly. I tied them way over towards the middle of the plant.

SSH2(middle plant in pic above), which is a week ahead of 3,4,5,6 is now 30" tall from stem base to avg top height. This plant was 16" when she went to 12/12 on Feb 26th, just 15 days ago.

SSH3=16"
SSH4=18"
SSH5=18"
SSH6=20"

as of today. They went to 12/12 on Mar 2nd. They were all around 12" then. I topped and trimmed them that day as well as transplanted them that day...so they took a few days to get going. I expect them to really get going here any day now.

Looks like I'm going to have 5 girls. I have said in the past I didn't really want more than 3, but I may back down and grow all five out if the plants won't be too crowded.

I have really down a lot of pruning on these 5 compared to past grows. So maybe I can get five to flower in here. Five more plants would build up my stash nicely for me and my g/f this summer. We're gonna do some funs tuff this summer. Gold is really up in price here now. We love camping out and prospecting for gold. I have hand sluice as well as pans, etc. Man, it is really relaxing to be camped by a nice cold creek, getting tuned up and looking for a bit of gold...or sometimes sapphires depending on just where you are.

Anyway...I hope everyone's grow is going well for them.

pedro

 

[BadKarma]

Hey Pedro

I put my clones in my flower room Today. I will get some pics up this weekend. Im thinking my #1 is a male. My wife seems to be able to pick a male plant out of a group of vegging plants way before they show any signs LOL. She is 5 for 5 in my grows. Picked every male in everyone at about 3 weeks veg. I hope she is wrong this time.

 

[Guest]

Bad Karma!!

I hope those clones are healthy and grow well. How tall were your clones when put into flower.?

MY SSH2, the first to flower, is now 34-35" tall. She's growing like 2 inches a day. She needs to slow down. I'm running out of head room. The other 4 haven't taken off yet. I will be transplanting them to 11 liter pots today. SH went to its 11 liter pot last night.

3.4.5.6 don't seem to be as stretchy as SSH2 is. I hope they don,t.

Later
Working today

pedro

 

[BadKarma]

I havent flipped my clones yet. They are vegging under 400MH. I will be flipping at about 12" they are about 5" now.

Ive allways had problems getting that perfect canopy, all the same height etc. it gets to be a problem with the Sativas. But Im working on it.

 

[MoleMcHenry]

Hey Pedro, just wanted to say this is a great thread. I come to ICMag to learn from the experts, and you're a great teacher/grower. I'm taking a seat in the bean bag.