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Why I choose to never support the Peat industry in my entire life

Firstly - if you are not sure what "peat moss" is, this link may be helpful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphagnum


Ah, the debate of "eco-friendly" peat moss harvesting
I had to ask myself, today:
is any harvesting of peat "eco-friendly?"

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"Abridged" version of this post:
(There once was a tall and lanky man, named Abraham Lincoln, who wrote a love note, explaining that the hardest part about writing the letter was keeping it short!)

1...Peat mining sites are essentially stripped of their natural flora &
......fauna, on an individual basis, which severely
......impacts the local ecosystem, and also impacts the global ecosystem.

2...Just because there's a lot of peat all over the world does not make it Ok
.......to strip individual sites, as explained above.

3....Many plants and animals (many of which are rare/endangered) depend on
.......specific peat bog sites and the landscape diversity they provide...

4....Individual peat bogs add to a landscape diversity that the ecosystem
.......depends on, in part, to thrive..

5....Mining peat liberates CO2 in two ways, releasing enormous
......amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere,
......which disrupts the global ecosystem and adds to increase global
......temperatures..
i....The peat you purchase decomposes over time, releasing CO2.​
ii....The peat bog itself is lead to exponential rates of CO2 liberation due
......to the industry stripping it. CO2 is usually bound in these bogs, in the form of
......highly undecomposable sphagnum peat moss, staying there for thousands, if
......not millions of years. When peat mining is done, it causes peat to be exposed
......to oxygen. It also lowers the water table. These things mean that the peat
......bogs that once were untouched and not decomposing, now decompose, and
......liberate enormous amounts of CO2 into the air (peat moss is chiefly composed
......of carbon)​

6.....Mining peat lowers water tables in the specific mining areas,
......which is another offense to our ecosystems

7.....You don't need to use peat! Peat is acidic, repels water when
......dry, and compost can be easily substituted for it. Compost is a better
......source of organic material, by far and offers a large range of nutrients
......as well as biological life and, perhaps most importantly, a large range of
......organic matter/complexes.

8.....Peat cannot and will not be mined with the ecosystem's well-being as a priority.
.......This is because the peat industry ferociously fights regulation and currently
.......mines (strips - relatively speaking) one location before it can regenerate (for
.......that is impossible, since it cannot grow as fast as we are mining it). Just
.......because we have a lot of peat on this planet does not excuse the stripping of
.......individual peat mining sites, because it affects the local or regional
.......ecosystems which then has a ripple affect on the rest of the world's
.......ecosystems.
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Now: The long version.

So I asked myself: "Do you trust regulations to protect peat bogs, in a way
that is acceptable to you?"

Well, I have decided that I do not.
Given the facts, I don't think you should, either.
The great thing is this, however:
You do not need to use peat! There's an alternative!
It's called compost.



What are the disadvantages of peat?
.......It repels H2O when dry.

.......It is also acidic.

.......It is not a complete source of organic material


.......But, best of all, you can just use good compost instead, to
.......achieve what you are trying to achieve when using peat moss.



When we mine peat moss, bad things happen

.......Water tables drop.
The peat bogs are harvested (dug - resulting in low lying areas, or ditches,
or holes), which results in increased water loss from the entire area, which
results in lowered water tables where the harvesting is done. This isn't just
low water tables in the area where they dig the massive crater to excavate
moss. This is the entire outlying area of this massive hole, we're talking
about.​

.......Plants & animals are disrupted.
The peat is robbed from the site, meaning that that the mining site's
ecosystem is chopped away in many aspects. Flora and fauna can no
longer survive (as well, if at all) in a mining location, and animals that use
peat sites (for example, migratory avians depend on peat bogs as a source
of food while traveling, as well as many other species of organisms)​

.......Landscape diversity is lowered.
Long term, we notice that as each of these sites are cleared, the
result is less landscape diversity in that specific locale. Ecosystems, including
our global one, often thrive on the fundamental concept of high landscape
diversity (well, at least as high as it was before man tinkered with it).​

.......CO2 is liberated from tampered peat bogs
Finally, we see that the peat mining liberates CO2 at exponential rates
compared to what liberation there would be, and global warming is increased
as the CO2 from you you use is liberated (as your personal peat supply
decomposes over time). Also, the actual peat site where the mining is
done is now in a low water zone (which once helped to inhibit decomposition
of the peat at this site), creating exponential CO2 liberation from the actual
site itself.​


.......It is for these reasons, in conjunction with the fact that we can use
compost derived from what would otherwise go into landfills, that makes
me vow to never in my entire life support the peat industry. I can only
hope that my fellow growers do the same.




See, I compare peat mining to fishing.

.......With fishing, we can work out a way to do it that is sustainable. Why?
Well, because fishermen know (or at least should), that sustainable fishing will
ensure the future of their business. Also, the survivability of the fish (a
concentrated resource, compared to peat) depends on the immediate effects
of harvesting a population within a certain location.

.......With peat mining, since there is such an abundant amount of it (peat
bogs cover 1% of all global land - which may not seem like a lot, but is a very
significant amount..) and the collective peat bogs' survivability (on a global
scale) does not depend (as much as fish) on the survival of one bog
does not depend on that of other peat bogs in differing locations.

.......Therefore, regulations will not stop the individual company from mining a
specific site to depletion - there simply is no incentive for them to do so.
The miner will basically strip a certain site, rather than skim from a multitude
of sites (without nearly depleting specific peat bogs). Long term: This is a
bad thing. Short term: This is a bad thing.

.......Ideally, they'd mine the peat bogs on this globe a whole - a collective of
individual peat bogs.. They do not though. Since there is such abundance
they will mine a specific site to depletion, which is very detrimental to the
ecosystem, yet is currently allowable by the industry's so-called "sustainable"
practices.

.......I do not trust these regulations from stopping such horrific acts on the
environment. And, when there's an easy and smart alternative (compost), I
especially disdain peat mining.




To conclude:
Many rare species thrive and depend on peat bogs.

Peat bogs are CO2 sinks, and disturbing them releases this CO2

Peat can be replaced with compost (or other organic matter), instead, when
gardening.

Peat bogs help maintain unique biodiversity in our ecosystem

Peat mining forever alters the location of mining, no matter how much the
industry itself tells you about their precaution and "sustainability"

I do not trust the peat industry, and do not support it, for there is no need,
and it is detrimental to our environment.

Any input is certainly welcome, and I hope you all grow on well, whatever your choice may be!

Peace! :headbange
 
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G

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Chewing on a few gnats while doing this study hehe.

I'm lucky in that my compost bin is full of sphagnum moss so peat is a lot lower on list of wanted ingredients. Thanks for posting this.
 

Mr Celsius

I am patient with stupidity but not with those who
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Well said, I completely agree with you.

I'm researching a coco mix right now. Coco is very sustainable (aside from shipping) and believe to be superior to peat.

Thanks for the post.
 

jaykush

dirty black hands
ICMag Donor
Veteran
cant beat dirt form outside worked into proper soil :) free and theres more than enough for everyone.
 

bird

Active member
well dood i jus skimmed threw but read enuff to agree and not gonna use peat any longer. thanks man always lookin for was to help the earth
 
sirgrassalot said:
I feel as though these folks are doing their best to make their business have
the smallest impact on the environment, which is a great thing.

Unfortunately, I see no need for their industry to exist, relative to horticulture
because we as a people should be using compost, instead. We have more
than enough waste to use for composting. I feel the peat industry enables an
avenue of environmental destruction by catching onto the "convenience
factor."

To me there is no reason for the peat mining to exist. Compost is a better
alternative, and once we only use compost, we can forget about all of the
hassle and environmental complications that this industry poses.

Thank you for posting that, because it made me say something I feel that I
left out. :headbange

PS:

This is from the site linked:
"Water management alone can take up to one year. Once the water table
is lowered to a manageable level, equipment can enter
the peat bog to
prepare its surface. If present, trees are cut and used to make roadways
within the bog, then large stumps and smaller vegetation are removed.
"

It is clear that what happens to these ecosystems is equivalent to
clear-cutting a forest. Completely wiped out. "Restoration" is an act of
damage control, not restoration...

What we also must keep in mind is that:
1) Governments are notorious for not being able to maintain essential
environmental regulations to protect the environment 100%

2) Any company wants to make money, and they will strive to tackle
every bog they can. There are a lot of bogs out there. Again -
this does not mean it's ok to go over many. Infact, none should be gone
after, because we simply do not need this resource. Every single bog they
hit up is a clear-cut section of a valuable ecosystem. You can never
restore the damage done, nor the damage done that ripples out across
the global ecosystem.

Thanks for posting

Here are some pictures of what this looks like. Yes, the machines are real. LOL!

peat%20harvest2.jpg


harvest.jpg
 
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sophisto

Member
I am with you guys on the trying to limit our footprint...These companies should be ashamed..Unfortunately their education and experience has taught them otherwise...

How can that be changed????

I appreciate your post and will definitely eliminate peat products from my purchases in the furure... thanks
 
sophisto said:
I am with you guys on the trying to limit our footprint...These companies should be ashamed..Unfortunately their education and experience has taught them otherwise...

How can that be changed????

I appreciate your post and will definitely eliminate peat products from my purchases in the furure... thanks
If you ask me - grassroots. Share the knowledge, and walk the walk. For this to happen, the people have to make it happen. The companies are not going to stop as long as the people keep buying it.

Also, society will not clearly see the effects of this practice enough to make them change in response. This is just another piece of the organic puzzle, and another thing to do to help out w/ our environment, albeit a very important thing.
 

sophisto

Member
LiveGiveTryDie said:
If you ask me - grassroots. Share the knowledge, and walk the walk. For this to happen, the people have to make it happen. The companies are not going to stop as long as the people keep buying it.

Also, society will not clearly see the effects of this practice enough to make them change in response. This is just another piece of the organic puzzle, and another thing to do to help out w/ our environment, albeit a very important thing.


Yeh it's funny to that most of us think that we need them more than they need us.....How upside down that is huh??? We have the collective power to say nope, no thanks......Mankind is to caught up running in the race....There are the few of us that hopefully can influence eachother...

Nice post brotha...
 

emmy75

Member
damn do i feel guilty. im currently growing my plants in peat. i purchased a bale of peat at a local nursery. however with the purchase of it i made myself a promise that i would recycle the peat that i use. thus the one bale i purchased would be the only one i ever purchased.

now ive had such a unburdened grow this time compared to my last one. the peat has been a wonderful medium for my plants. but the purchase and use of peat was made as a conscientious choice.

i understood that peat bogs face destruction, local species loss of habitat and damage to the environment.

its just such a shame that the use of something i think is so wonderful cannot be removed without damaging the environment.
 

Mr Celsius

I am patient with stupidity but not with those who
Veteran
There is such a thing as sustainable peat in New Zealand, but that is a very small minority of the peat available on the market.

The fortunate thing is, that coco is rapidly taking over peat in many mixes. If you look at roots organic, their soiless mix is 100% coco as medium and the potting soil is 50/50 peat/coco (I believe). When Fox Farms gets on board, that'll be a big impact. Also Down to earth produces many organic dry ferts and now sells bricks of coco. Most of the larger hydro companies are on board as well: GH, Botanicare and many others.

We can do our part by buying sustainable ingredients in general; I.E. use crushed oyster shells instead of Dolomitic lime.

One thing that hasn't really been assessed is the reality of all or even most growers to produce their own compost. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of commercial, quality composts on the market... but I do see the hope and realism of coco.
 
Mr Celsius said:
There is such a thing as sustainable peat in New Zealand, but that is a very small minority of the peat available on the market.

The fortunate thing is, that coco is rapidly taking over peat in many mixes. If you look at roots organic, their soiless mix is 100% coco as medium and the potting soil is 50/50 peat/coco (I believe). When Fox Farms gets on board, that'll be a big impact. Also Down to earth produces many organic dry ferts and now sells bricks of coco. Most of the larger hydro companies are on board as well: GH, Botanicare and many others.

We can do our part by buying sustainable ingredients in general; I.E. use crushed oyster shells instead of Dolomitic lime.

One thing that hasn't really been assessed is the reality of all or even most growers to produce their own compost. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of commercial, quality composts on the market... but I do see the hope and realism of coco.

They may call it sustainable, but I had to ask, is it really sustainable when there are other options, and when we don't need to be using peat the way we use it as a soil amendment? I say no.



There is certainly a problem here. We see many soil companies using peat under the guise of sustainability. I just don't see it as being sustainable. It first attacks the ecosystem, and it then gobbles up enormous amounts of energy for processing. That energy could have been used to make compost out of our waste, instead. The CO2 sinks (peat bogs) could remain intact. The wildlife there could be spared. Etc, etc etc.


So we have to work against some things:

Peat is very convenient for most people

Peat is popular

Compost is heavy

Compost may be harder to get or unavailable.



Nonetheless, this is why it's important to start switching our society's mindeset. As in - make compost more available. Recycle more of our organic waste so that we can replace peat with compost (and, stop filling our landfills so fast with the waste). Compost needs to be available to the city grower, or the grower that can't get any at the local farm, or make it themselves. For the people that can make it themselves with ease, they need to start doing so. This goes beyond peat. It not only is better for your plant, but it's an entire mindset that could be applied to our society to be less wasteful. There are many things that need to be done, the first step is getting people to understand just what this industry is doing, and why we need not rely on it so heavily.

Thanks for postin
 
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I know there are some pretty highly regarded Gurus in this forum and, if you have the time, I wouldn't mind hearing your input on this! Infact I eagerly await it! =)
Peace
 
G

Guest

No Guru here ceptin maybe in Aquaponics. I know an awful lot about NZ and the wetlands and species here, it's part of my work.

The peat industry here is not sustainable in that the environment will not sustain it despite the restoration attempts. Fact is that industry strips the land then puts it back with all the connecting bits between the dots missing. They disrupt breeding grounds for many species and destroy micro-flora and fauna networks that have evolved over time. No amount of $$ spent on the land will replace the damage, only time, and leaving it alone!

Here's a bit on NZ wetlands

"The vast mosaics of lowland swamps and wet forests were important for early Māori. These places contained plentiful food – fish, birds, pollen and roots – and plants such as flax for weaving and thatching, and moss for bedding. The waterways within and between the wetlands provided canoe routes to these resources.

Loss of wetlands
Before human settlement (from around 1250–1300 AD), freshwater wetlands covered about 670,000 hectares of New Zealand. By the 21st century this had been reduced to 89,000 hectares – an estimated loss of 87%. Fertile lowland swamps have been lost in greater numbers than those that were infertile or at high altitudes.

There is regional variation: Southland retains some 35% of its original wetlands, whereas the Bay of Plenty has less than 1%.

Ecological and social significance
Wetlands are ecologically important because:

they contain a large proportion of New Zealand’s native plants, including rare and endangered species
they provide habitat for native fish and invertebrates
They are home to a quarter of New Zealand’s land birds, and provide vital feeding and resting areas for the many migrating birds that visit each year.
they help maintain water flows, lessening the impact of floods, and maintain water quality by acting as sediment traps
their plants also improve water quality by adding oxygen and taking up dissolved nutrients."

The ever decreasing habitat for native fish is a very real concern. Introduced trout species (and the $$$ again...) have dominated larger waterbodies and many native species have since migrated further inland to smaller tributaries and the wetlands they feed from. Farming peat not only damages the immediate environment it causing havoc in pathing for species that rely on getting to and from the ocean as part of their life cycle. Species become trapped inland, some manage to breed, others do not.

Many species also spawn on the banks here in king tides and during storms. When the water is at it's highest. Lowering the water table effectively kills that entire spawning run.

So sphagnum moss? What's the difference between using this, or peat?
 
Thanks for your valuable perspective, BongSong. Much appreciated.

As far as I know, Sphagnum moss is what makes up peat bogs. I have always taken it that Sphagnum Moss = Peat Moss. Hopefully I'm not mistaken in doing so.
 
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