Everyone claims EZclone roots in 3 days. WTF. Discuss.

[Guest]

i've used bubble cloners that gave roots in no fewer than 6 days. the same girl showed me roots in 4 days via the rapid rooter.

 

[cabanetforester]

I do have a question involving the EZ clone and the RR's... Will RR's stand up to the water spray of the EZ for cheap plug replacements?

Hey Smoke68. I have used RR in my ez and it seemed to 'work'-edit/ (not really) with a little modification.


Those pvc adapters are threaded on one end and they just happen to thread into the holes on top the ez.

They will hold RR securely it seems and you have some control as to how far down into the couplers you can set the RR. This has some effect on how wet the RR will get from the sprayer.

This was just a quick attempt to see what would happen. conditions were far from ideal at this point and the cuttings (rooted and not) were transplanted a couple days later. Nothing rooted in the RR during this test. I was mostly testing for fit and to see how wet the RR would get at different depths in the couplers.

I have a heat mat/thermostat and interval timer. I have thought about setting the ez on the heat mat and placing the temp probe in the water in the ez setting to 75 and running the misters maybe 2-3 times a day. Just enough to dampen the RR. I would have to find some way to control the air temp in the ez though it might be within range if the water is on and well aerated.

I have never measured the air temp in the ez but i know it gets pretty warm if the water is up over 72-75 being black and all probably has effect to.

Another thing you can try is taking the cuts out of the ez as soon as they calcify or whatever those bumps are just before they root. Anyway put the cuts in RR/dome tray/ heat mat when they start to calcify most should make it at that point.

With some tweaking this could possibly be a good seed propigator also. The whole point being low maintaince for people that cant tend their gardens as much. my .02 CF

 

[FreezerBoy]

Don't forget the Voodoo. What works for some doesn't work for others. I have a 300% failure rate with naked slips in bubble cloners but, I'm not going to say they don't work. Many say you have to keep humidity up. I say no humidity allowed. It's all voodoo.

The secret to my success lies in soaking each stem for one minute in full strength liquid Hormex (B1 rooting solution) before coating in gel and placed in Rockwool. According to my old notes, success rate jumped from 45% to 99.44%.

 

[Guest]

if you guys are looking for cheap replacement inserts, just use styrofoam.

 

[wafflehouselove]

No offense Freezerboy but for those that have to take like 30+ cuttings isn't going to want to wait 1 min to dip each clone. There's other approach to getting 90% success and having to mass produce such is simply using 1x1x1 rockwool with the holes in it.

 

[Tom Hill]

The ambient air wants to be around 80f & the water temp wants to be around 70f. It's a design flaw. The pump is creating too much heat in the water & needs to be moved outside of the rez, dig?

 

[cabanetforester]

The ambient air wants to be around 80f & the water temp wants to be around 70f. It's a design flaw. The pump is creating too much heat in the water & needs to be moved outside of the rez, dig?

I hear ya. Submersible pumps , in any continuous run application = Wrong and stupid. They should be ground up and recycled as plastic toothpicks or something.

I'm learning, slowly but surely.

The ez will be next.

 

[richyrich]

Just a few folks here get it with the EZ. We all live in different areas and we put our cloners in different places. I have posted many a times in the numerous EZ cloner discussions. Ambient room temps are the most critical factor in using the EZ cloner. The pumps withing heat the water about +5. If you have ambient room temps in the mid 70s then your cloner water is gonna be near or in the 80 range and that is the danger zone. Some people say the temps don't matter, well I consider you lucky. In my area you have to put it in a air conditioned room, a cold garage or on cold concrete floor to see it work. When it does work it is the fastest way to clone. Let's see folks here post there ambient rooms temps and their cloner water temps to go with their success and non-success experiences.

 

[astra007]

im on my second 120 site EZ cloner; the first 1 got stolen by the rc's. ok now, i grow medical marijuana and at any given time i will have 6 different strains rooting. i set up the EZ, add GH3 part 50ml each and some B1. then i ph. 2 air stones and 1 pump heated with a 400w MH on 18/6.

indole butyric acid has to be 0.4% or better, 45 degree cut with razor on 3" - 4" cutting, put into wilson ROOTS and then into cloner lid. fill or 1/2 fill the lid and place on tank, go operationable. 7 days massive beautiful roots. i usually get 100 plus per full fill. in a lab maybe 5 days, with a rooting hormone and advanced science maybe 3 days but not by the ordinary layman.

i dont care about test results - i care about MY results. my EZ is also got an 11 gal. res - the first 1 was bigger. if you need new plugs or the smaller res. then go to the website and order them. never checked my water temp as it sits on a table OFF the floor in my veg room.

 

[FreezerBoy]

No offense Freezerboy but for those that have to take like 30+ cuttings isn't going to want to wait 1 min to dip each clone.

None taken. As I said "What works for some doesn't work for others." I tried Rockwool and gel and got a 55% death rate. 60 seconds to increase my success by 55% is worth it to me. In the meantime 1000 slips will soak for one minute as fast as one will. You don't have to do it one at a time.